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#26 - AMB
Correct I was fueled 100%, I was a few tenths slower than garfild per lap, somehow I got suspension damage like most drivers, probably tapped a wall, was afraid to push too hard on a track this tight and not tested the set at all, I span under the safety car and went down to like 5th I then had to rush back up the grid, got stuck behind felix and once I passed him I tried to put some decent laps in, still wasn't fast enough, came to pit stops and decided to not change tyres since they were ok because they hadn't been pushed too hard, this gained me some time but not enough, all in all who knows what would of happened without that spin and getting stuck behind slower cars, Garfild would of still probably won though
Quote from Garfild12 :Everything looked pretty safe from my point of view, actually i missed all the fun beacause everything happened in the back. I just pushed the tempo and in first 4 laps i made 7 sec lead before AMB, because he was much slower behind felix; strange situation from Felix, normally he's pretty fast ;} Then i could increase lead pretty fast but as it occured AMB was 100% tanked before race, werent you m8?? tactis almost worked pretty well beacause when i pitted he was catching me ( even he was infront of me )but after he pitted it was still 7 sec lead, so if he didnt have to wait behind FElix he might catch me.

Meanwhile i had quite unpleasent crash with my teammate Evilpimp; he crashed into mr Wall and I was too close to avoid him; slipstream caught me and car had some left damage. I lost pretty much time and damage slowed me thru race. But actaulyl i forgot about it in 5 laps xD
The most important decision was; if i should rapair my car. Good that i havent; i couldn't catch up these 14-21 sec

All in all It was rather another lonely leading race like in So Town, AS north; shame for Tenman, i hoped for some nice, close battle.

At least I gave you a little bit of action. :P
Well wenn watching the WTCC race tonight, I thought Hibby is the James Thompson of LFS, though Hibby finished
Recieved this request for inquiry via PM this morning:

Quote :We wish to protest the appalling driving of AMB while behind the SC he *yet again this season* spins both Hibex and Sala[neuvos] while under yellow flag and SC.

This will be investigated and a decision posted within 36-48 hours.

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#30 - AMB
Teach ya to break straight after a blind corner then won't it, no need to protest, I'll withdraw anyway, soz woozy.

Edit: Protesting at the last round of the series, when a penalty to me will do nothing but give AA less points and you've still won, just not nice towards Woozy but go ahead anyway.
Quote :We wish to protest the appalling driving of AMB while behind the SC he *yet again this season* spins both Hibex and Sala[neuvos] while under yellow flag and SC.

There was no incident between Salaneuvos and AMB during the SC period. Salaneuvos spun of his own accord during the intervention.

The contact between AMB and Hibex as the SC was on inlap was a chain-reaction due to many factors, from the blind exit of the corner which caught every driver off guard because of Wisnewiski coasting before going for it. AMB was at a point where he could not sufficiently react to prevent a colission at the location where it occured. No penalty is issues for this incident.

Results are now official.

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Hey no worries man. I skimmed through the replay and it didn't look like it was your fault. Wiz was going slow through the turn, Felix run up close and had to brake, and then there was the accordion effect. Wasn't anybodies fault, just Hibex caught the bad luck of it. =/

But none the less, I appreciate you driving for AA throughout the season. You've scored a bunch of points for us and kept us in 3rd (i think). Good job getting 2nd place after the spin.

edit: My assumptions just made official by deko as well. =)
Quote :Teach ya to break straight after a blind corner then won't it, no need to protest, I'll withdraw anyway, soz woozy.

Such silly drama as always.

The SC was out due to you driving straight into the back of Hibex under braking for t3. I guess nothing to do with you either, they should not be braking eh.

Quote :Edit: Protesting at the last round of the series, when a penalty to me will do nothing but give AA less points and you've still won, just not nice towards Woozy but go ahead anyway.

Nothing to do with that, you have hit and spun Hibex in previous rounds under SC periods, costing SR points. I am protesting your driving not AA team or Woozy who im always nice too as I respect his driving.

Quote :There was no incident between Salaneuvos and AMB during the SC period.

You need to watch the replay from AMBs car. He hits Sala at least once under SC. No room for it in my book. As he initially caused the SC and hits people under the SC, even making up places by passing under the SC, i protested this appalling driving. Make of it what you will.

Best, Mazar
sounds like i was lucky to only last 6 turns, even tho i had no way of avoiding the spinning cars infront of me maybe next season i could get a team together and race FTW whoop whoop
#35 - AMB
Quote from Mazar :Snip!

It's not like I did it on purpose, first collision was my fault, but I didn't expect him to brake that early, cold tyres does not help, rest of the collisions were probably due to me on and off the throttle but most of it was due to a chain reaction, I didn't want to brake too hard and flatspot my tyres, anyway I always drive clean, if I hit someone it's either a mistake or racing incident, I only drive aggressive if i'm annoyed, like with the GWR guys, i'm a aggressive driver when I need to be, doesn't make me a bad driver though.
Yeah, I agree with Mazar, driving from AMB wasnt safe and caused HIbex to lose many positions before and after SC.

Hibex had a great start and was on 3rd position but he entered chicane quite idly. AMB entered it clearly but it wasnt impossible to avoid HIbex, AMB was just too agressive. Probably only me and Beattie were going that fast into that chicane so he should have been more careful knowing that. Definietly his fault.
Same at the end of SC.

In both cases accident form AMB to Hibex, and Hibex didnt even say a word of complain.
Quote :It's not like I did it on purpose, first collision was my fault, but I didn't expect him to brake that early, cold tyres does not help,

Ridiculous.

You can see his position on the track clearly, bottlenecked behind another car and you make no effort to avoid hitting him. You also should be expecting that on lap 1 of a long race with cars heavy on fuel etc. If your not capable of understanding that or driving on cool tyres you should not be racing. Use your head..

Quote : rest of the collisions were probably due to me on and off the throttle but most of it was due to a chain reaction

You got it right first time.

The rest of the collisions where due to you being too close to the car in front, overly aggressive on both throttle and brakes as you near pass the car in front many times. Nothing to do with a chain reaction, just your driving. Its exactly the same as in previous rounds when you also hit cars under the SC. You simply have to give enough room to other cars for this not to happen, there is no excuse for it.

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, I didn't want to brake too hard and flatspot my tyres, anyway I always drive clean, if I hit someone it's either a mistake or racing incident

Thats not clean driving, causing a SC on lap one of a long race and then hitting other cars behind the SC and even making up places under yellows is pathetic driving. Definately not clean racing..

Quote :
i'm a aggressive driver when I need to be, doesn't make me a bad driver though.

No, your a aggresive driver when you dont need to be! like in lap 1 or behind the SC. Your miles too aggresive and ruin others races who are competing in a championship. How you dont get a penalty *or more* for making up places under yellows behind a SC is beyond me.

AMB, your a fast driver, not a clean racer and a absolutle liabillity for others around you on grids from what ive seen of you in oneGP.
Clean it up, race using your head - not your aggression.

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In both cases accident form AMB to Hibex, and Hibex didnt even say a word of complain.


We follow the rules Boris and Hibex doesnt complain as we dont want to breach the no chat rule. Complaints made after the race in the form of a formal protest is the way we play it..Great racing and driving from you this season, awesome performance!

Best, Maz
#38 - AMB
Quote from Mazar :AMB, your a fast driver, not a clean racer and a absolutle liabillity for others around you on grids from what ive seen of you

I don't actually think I've EVER caused a crash in any other league, the 16h race, not one crash caused by me, same with other endurance races like MoE, and I am a clean racer, maybe i'll practice next season and i'll show you if i'm not a clean driver.
Calm down guys, shit happens.

Nothing's worse than doing 800 laps in two weeks at a track, only to be knocked off the track, taking the wrong route at the 2nd corner of the race... (Not necessarily a dig at you Taha, talking about FE Gold here).

But yeah I have noticed in general that people leave nowhere near enough space under the SC, or pay no attention to the map. I was hit about 6 times under the SC at AS7 - within about 3 laps.

Under the SC, i'm constantly watching the map, seeing where everybody is in relation to me.

Think about F1, cars slowing down together, then sprinting off to warm tyres under SC, exactly the same as LFS, people turn TC off to wheelspin the rears. TBH though, I think that next year, the SC should be FZR as it is a couple of seconds a lap faster than FXR. A lot of the time, we are trailing very slowly behind the SC - or maybe the SC driver should put his foot down a bit, and try not to spin? *cough*
Quote from robybobey :TBH though, I think that next year, the SC should be FZR as it is a couple of seconds a lap faster than FXR. A lot of the time, we are trailing very slowly behind the SC - or maybe the SC driver should put his foot down a bit, and try not to spin? *cough*

hmm... sry but the FZR wouldn't help, as the safety car is instructed to a concrete maximum speed and a moderated accelerating and braking
Quote from TFalke55 :hmm... sry but the FZR wouldn't help, as the safety car is instructed to a concrete maximum speed and a moderated accelerating and braking

And what is that maximum speed?
Quote from robybobey :And what is that maximum speed?

the race director sets it, depending of what track is driven... between 180 and 210 is usual. In south City I was between 160 and 180... I tried to stay in this window as good as possible.
Too slow anyway ;P about 160 kmh. I wouldnt complain if it was like 100 % of FXR -still enought for BF1 but thats ridiculous offcourse......
Quote from robybobey :Calm down guys, shit happens.

Nothing's worse than doing 800 laps in two weeks at a track, only to be knocked off the track, taking the wrong route at the 2nd corner of the race... (Not necessarily a dig at you Taha, talking about FE Gold here).

But yeah I have noticed in general that people leave nowhere near enough space under the SC, or pay no attention to the map. I was hit about 6 times under the SC at AS7 - within about 3 laps.

Under the SC, i'm constantly watching the map, seeing where everybody is in relation to me.

Think about F1, cars slowing down together, then sprinting off to warm tyres under SC, exactly the same as LFS, people turn TC off to wheelspin the rears. TBH though, I think that next year, the SC should be FZR as it is a couple of seconds a lap faster than FXR. A lot of the time, we are trailing very slowly behind the SC - or maybe the SC driver should put his foot down a bit, and try not to spin? *cough*

I'd say the FE Gold incident wasn't 100% my fault. Definetly a big part of it was my fault but not 100%. You did randomly brake and it was completly unexpected. I had a good distance to you but just didn't have time to react in time. The SO one was 100% my fault. Actually make that 120% :P. I was just cruising around behind and kinda got a moment were I started day dreaming (never gunna join a league that races that early in the morning again.) Simply didn't pay attention and as soon as the pace slowed down I was on the throttle for some reason. O_O Sorry bout that. :S

But yeah shit happens. This race was the biggest shit ever for me. Ever. (for now :P) Got caught in the Hibex AMB incident, repaired damage, kept going, crashed into Roby, pitted, didnt catch up to SC, kept going, hit wall, hit my own teammate, retired. :P
Quote from evilpimp :I'd say the FE Gold incident wasn't 100% my fault. Definetly a big part of it was my fault but not 100%. You did randomly brake and it was completly unexpected. I had a good distance to you but just didn't have time to react in time. The SO one was 100% my fault. Actually make that 120% :P. I was just cruising around behind and kinda got a moment were I started day dreaming (never gunna join a league that races that early in the morning again.) Simply didn't pay attention and as soon as the pace slowed down I was on the throttle for some reason. O_O Sorry bout that. :S

But yeah shit happens. This race was the biggest shit ever for me. Ever. (for now :P) Got caught in the Hibex AMB incident, repaired damage, kept going, crashed into Roby, pitted, didnt catch up to SC, kept going, hit wall, hit my own teammate, retired. :P

The FE Gold incident wasn't your fault, mainly because you were not racing lol, it was between AMB and me...
#46 - AMB
Quote from robybobey :The FE Gold incident wasn't your fault, mainly because you were not racing lol, it was between AMB and me...

Can you remind me? if i remember correctly it was lag, was it first lap at chicane? if so it was lag.
Quote from AMB :Can you remind me? if i remember correctly it was lag, was it first lap at chicane? if so it was lag.

Yeah, would have been lag on your part though (I just familiarised myself with the replay)....

Moving on...... lol
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