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Quote from The Moose :Keep trying.

I was opposed to the BNP from my early teens.
I took the time to actually find out about them off my own back after being handed some of their literature in the street.
I researched what i could about them before coming to my conclusions.

The work of a mindless idiot bandwagon jumper? I think not.

Your 37 so your judging the BNP on their attitudes from over 20 years ago which is far from fair.
Sure you do.

Keep telling yourself that.
Quote from andybarsblade :Your 37 so your judging the BNP on their attitudes from over 20 years ago which is far from fair.

awwww poor little fascists.
Quote from andybarsblade :Your 37 so your judging the BNP on their attitudes from over 20 years ago which is far from fair.

No, I'm judging the BNP from 20 years ago until now.

Who in their right mind would judge someone/something purely on what happened 20 years ago? You've mistaken me for an idiot.

Goodbye.
Quote from andybarsblade :Your 37 so your judging the BNP on their attitudes from over 20 years ago which is far from fair.

If they change their opinions that radically in 20 years, they'll probably be planning to institute sharia law by the time they get elected.
Quote from andybarsblade :Theres no need for them to.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7232661.stm

Wierd Beard ranting off about how it may happen. Just another imbicile.

Quote :http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1687576.ece

It's use of a sharia "court" as a form of abitration, both parties must accept it. I don't particularly like the precedent myself, but that situation has been used for Jewish religious courts for a while.

Quote :http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t ... /crime/article4749183.ece

Same incident but not covered in a sensationalist manner.
Quote from thisnameistaken :If they change their opinions that radically in 20 years, they'll probably be planning to institute sharia law by the time they get elected.

As Andy says, they already have "a foot in the door"....give it ten years and you might be seeing a lot of one-handed shoplifters!..And if your wife/girlfriend says shes going out to get stoned, I don't think she will mean smoking waccy-baccy.

btw, somebody mentioned the Human Rights Act earlier in this thread (CBA to look for it)...but just how much does FULL Sharia Law conform to the HRA???? Not a lot, in fact, probably less than the BNP's version of it!
Sharia criminal law (the stonings, beheadings and removal of body parts) des not comply in any way shape or form with the European Convention on Human Rights. That's the thing that contains the safeguards that the Human Rights Act enshrines in UK law.

Capital punishment is in violation of Article 2 (the right to life) and Protocol 6 (almost total abolition of the death penalty) which was replaced by Protocol 13 (total abolition of the death penalty).
Chopping body parts of is against Article 3 (inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment).

Stop the paranoia ... there is no chance of criminal Sharia Law being used in the UK. Zilch. Zip. Nada. Null. Zero.

As for the civil parts : it's being used as a form of abritration, not my bag but it's nothing more than that.
Quote :Stop the paranoia ... there is no chance of criminal Sharia Law being used in the UK. Zilch. Zip. Nada. Null. Zero.

Unless the BNP get in and abolish the human rights act that is...
Quote from Becky Rose :Unless the BNP get in and abolish the human rights act that is...

Here we go again, Its like you have something personal against them
Quote from andybarsblade :Here we go again, Its like you have something personal against them

Do you deny that the BNP wish to abolish the human rights act? Read their own literature for once.

Can you not comprehend that the full Sharia criminal justice system is blocked by the human rights act?

Therefore the BNP is the only major political party that has policies which could allow for Sharia law? The reasons they want to abolish the human rights act is to allow corporal punishment so whilst a party that dishes out religious hatred to muslims like there's no tomorrow is unlikely to impliment Sharia law they are effectively wanting the controsversial bits that offend people anyway.
Quote from ajp71 :Do you deny that the BNP wish to abolish the human rights act? Read their own literature for once.

Can you not comprehend that the full Sharia criminal justice system is blocked by the human rights act?

Therefore the BNP is the only major political party that has policies which could allow for Sharia law? The reasons they want to abolish the human rights act is to allow corporal punishment so whilst a party that dishes out religious hatred to muslims like there's no tomorrow is unlikely to impliment Sharia law they are effectively wanting the controsversial bits that offend people anyway.

I know what they want to do, Im not arguing that.
I would'nt want to offend that religon of peace.
There's also UKIP who want to scrap the human rights act, if you would prefer your racism with an extra dose of fake tan and anti-Europeanism.

And the Tories sometimes say they want to do it too, which is bizzare.
the Human Rights act is a good thing, except when it is used at the expense of common sense. Like criminals claiming human rights violations. If you commit a serious crime, you forfeit all but the most basic rights (obviously keeping the right to a fair trial)
Quote from mookie427 :the Human Rights act is a good thing, except when it is used at the expense of common sense. Like criminals claiming human rights violations. If you commit a serious crime, you forfeit all but the most basic rights (obviously keeping the right to a fair trial)

Show me an example of it being used "at the expense of common sense". Also, what is, in this case a "serious crime", and what are the "most basic rights"? Does that make capital punishment acceptable? Waterboarding?
what I mean is prisoners claiming human rights violations, (especially minorities) and the people in charge caving in so easily. A 'serious crime' is whatever you make it....and I'm all for capital punishment. Anybody who takes a life intentionally in cold blood should forfeit their own life.
Quote from mookie427 :what I mean is prisoners claiming human rights violations, (especially minorities) and the people in charge caving in so easily. A 'serious crime' is whatever you make it....and I'm all for capital punishment. Anybody who takes a life intentionally in cold blood should forfeit their own life.

Whereas I prefer to live in a modern, progressive society, rather than the backward and savage, medieval-mentality of a society you describe.
how in the world is that a 'backwards and savage, medieval' mentality? some states in the USA have the death sentence, and I think that if you intentionally take a life you don't deserve to have one any more. I would rather murderers were dealt with swiftly and effectively than given 6 years in prison and then released again.

And I don't know how I was describing a 'society' all I stated was that I'd prefer to see capital punishment reintroduced

PS - by 'intentionally taking a life' I am referring to out-and-out, cold blooded murder. Driving-related deaths would not fall under the same bracket and would be looked at on a case-by-case basis
Capital punishment is an accepted fundamental yardstick in determining the advancement of a society.
Quote from mookie427 :how in the world is that a 'backwards and savage, medieval' mentality? some states in the USA have the death sentence

What's with the delusion that if it happens in the US it can't be backward and regressive? Quite the contrary, IMO. Vast expanses of the US are barely out of the badland/cowboy phase of cultural development. Access to Sony PS3s does not define you as an advanced culture.
Derek Bentley.
Ruth Ellis.
Timothy Evans.

Three reasons why no civilised society should have capital punishment.
There is a very obvious reason why this leak was a bad thing, regardless how you feel about the BNP it leads to violence towards innocent people. Linky. Which if it was the other way round would be classed as a racist attack.

Now lucky this time it was only a car, but how long until this starts turning to personal attacks and someone ends up dead?
Quote from duke_toaster :Derek Bentley.
Ruth Ellis.
Timothy Evans.

Three reasons why no civilised society should have capital punishment.

Thing is this day in age with advances in forensic science there can be no doubt in some cases to some peoples guilt.
Quote from andybarsblade :Thing is this day in age with advances in forensic science there can be no doubt in some cases to some peoples guilt.

*cough*Barry George*cough*
Quote from andybarsblade :Thing is this day in age with advances in forensic science there can be no doubt in some cases to some peoples guilt.

In some not all

BNP membership data leaked - whoops!
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