More Ovals!

Regardless of the fact that the majority of LFS racers prefer a road course, you must admit there is demand for oval racing and that it is a part of motorsports. Ovals must be accepted more openly if LFS is going to be the "ultimate racing simulator" that it claims to be.

Please help me by voting for this LoLCat pic!! Thanks! =)

http://mine.icanhascheezburger ... rfa128482959830312500.jpg

Did anyone else have the issue where all the skins and setups were deleted? And for some reason when I copy my backups to the game they still do not show up!

Um, get into your real car and ask real people?

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Typical dude

Ah, Sully.

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... maybe you´re right guys, let´s keep this up & running :static:

+1 for forum statistics :bounce8::spam4:

Definitely! Negative criticism usually gets more people to join out of pure curiosity than positive criticism!

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uh ... btw, could someone close this threat please? hehe

Yeah, please!

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In Soviet Russia, car admins you!

OMG! That is awesome! LOL

If irony was made of strawberries, we'd all be drinking a lot of smoothies right now.

We all do realize that this is a computer game we are talking about, right? People are free to choose what servers they wish to join and what servers they do not. So, there is no reason to bash anyone's server because you think you were banned for no good reason or whatever. If something like that happens to me, I go to another server! I don't make a thread about how much I hate a specific server or their admins.

Moral of the story: If you don't like it, TOUGH! Go find another server.

:wow:


:tempted:

Um, you can go to the track and hit shift+u and save layout.

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uhm u made oval racing look like fun.. gotta give it to ya ...nice movie

9/10

It is fun if you want it to be

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Well... this will be fun

But..

Using Plazti's replay. I thing a version of this using Pylons instead of tyres could be a little bit safer!

I love this.... gets me closer (possibly) to chasing Fail around.... around around around! Ya know who I mean

Pylons? You mean cones?

Cones are not very visible from a distance the travelling at top speed. Tried it =)

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Yea... All these test patches are starting to piss me off lol.

Downloading.

Oh and keep your suggestions to the Improvement section please lol. These threads are for the testing of these patches only.

Try to keep useless posts about "downloading right now" or "wow, these patches are coming fast" or "keep them coming" out of here also. These threads are for the testing of patches only and reporting issues with the test patches.

Yeah, this and my previous post do not belong, but they are more useful than the aforementioned.

Would this be relatively simple to do in a future test/public patch? It is becoming a bigger issue now than I have seen before.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=25135

I would like to see more colors and letters allowed for racer names. I am not sure how many are allowed now, but when you make the letters different colors there is just not enough room. I am only one character short on my name I would like and it is really making me angry.

One color I would like to see added is orange.

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God, calm down!

I swear some people are so frightened by change, even when it's good for them.

The new rules are going to reduce the massive dependence on aero grip which currently makes overtaking or even close racing very difficult. GOOD FOR FANS, ie. YOU.

The new rules are going to make (or at least 'appear to make', and you know that's what really counts! ) F1 much more environmentally friendly. I don't know if you had noticed, but the whole climate change issue has gained a great deal of traction lately, and the FIA must act quickly to ensure that this does not damage F1. GOOD FOR FANS, ie. YOU, as I'm sure you don't want to see F1 disappear all together.

The new rules are going to attract greater manufacturer involvement. The costs of F1 are such now that it is impossible not to be involved without some sort of manufacturer support. Without manufacturer involvement, F1 makes about as much sense, has about as much appeal, and is about as financially viable as one-legged turtle racing. Manufacturer involvement ensures the future of F1. GOOD FOR FANS, ie., YOU, as I'm sure you don't want to see F1 disappear all together.

Finally, and most importantly, this is only a proposal. A starting point. Think about the negotiation process; for argument's sake, let's use the example of buying a new television. Do you immediately offer the highest price you are willing to pay for your new television? NO! OF COURSE NOT! That would be stupid. You start with a much, much lower price. Then, the salesperson makes you a counter-offer, and vice-versa, until you have reached a price that is acceptable to both parties. THIS IS EXACTLY HOW CHANGES TO F1 HAPPEN! It's a process of negotiation. There are more interested parties than just Max and the FIA. Max knows (unlike some of the reactionary, emotional, twitty F1 fans) that F1's survival, and future growth, depends on a number of interests which include (but are not limited to) manufacturers, the FIA, and yes, FANS.

That's right, believe it or not, the powers-that-be understand that if no-one watches F1, F1 ceases to exist.

In summary, RELAX! This is just a starting point. These changes are necessary and will benefit almost everyone. I guarantee they will ultimately benefit you as a fan. The on-track racing can't actually get much worse than it is now, right? I mean, let's be honest, F1 is pretty effing boring from a racing perspective.

Bring on 2011.

Probably the most sensible post I have seen in this thread!

I never really thought warming tires was a big issue. I always considered having to burn off excess fuel before the hotlap was more bothersome. Now that you can put in 1% minimum, I think that is taken care of.

I started this thread with the intent to inform with new information I discovered recently. It was started for people to reply based on the information I presented and not quoting and making fun of "Intelligent Posts Only" or "Post approved by 42 intelligent people" and other kiddie things like that.

Why can nobody post only in reply to the info I presented to them (which was the original intent)?

I did not intend to start an argument over the road v oval debate. But I kinda figured it would happen anyway since nobody can resist. When an argument starts, however, it is hard to resist contributing to that argument. I am sorry for sontinuing on with it.

Now can we please have replys that only are in response to the information I presented and opinions on that? Flaming is for noobs!

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@Redwing - Stop writing in big red writing, it doesn't make you look clever and learn to quote properly.

Type [-quote=name-]quote[-/quote-] (without the hyphens)

Copy and paste is much easier. Besides, I think it is easy to tell whom I am quoting. And the red writing is so you can tell what I typed.

Apparently it is useless to discuss something with people on a forum since it seems that most of the members are too closed-minded.

I have said it before, and I say it again: If you think oval is easy, come to the FM Oval Junkies server and try it for yourself against the best oval racers in LFS. If it is easy, then you should win easily shouldn't you

Last edited by red_wing_2121, Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:51.

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Originally Posted by mike11973
As a spectator sport Oval racing dominates

us != world

This post has officially been deemed intelligent by 42 independent government organisations. Any protests against it's validity as intelligent should be taken up with the aforementioned organisations (which wish to remain nameless).

Yeah, oval does not dominate as spectator sport. I agree.



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Originally Posted by red_wing_2121
INTELLIGENT POSTS ONLY, PLEASE!

off to a bad start

Tried, but apparently noone likes trying to be intelligent.


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Oval may seem simple to the onlooker or the person cruising around it on their own, but it is much harder than you may think.
uh huh


Yep!

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When you drive on an oval on your own, there are many different lines you can take that may never end up being fast.
just like on a track that has corners

What I am saying is that oval is easier to drive around casually than a road course.


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There is always one line that is fast, and it is usually pretty hard to find unless you have a lot of experience on the oval.
hey still like on a track that actually has corners

A road course may have several variances on a line and all can be fast. Oval pretty much has one.


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Plus, the line you take into corners on an oval is much more aggressive than you would see on a road course since a road course tends to force racers wide at the entrance and exit while on an oval it is a much tighter line.
so basically what youre saying is that if you mess up your line on the oval you have tons of tarmac to go whereas on a track going wide means hitting the grass and spinning right ?


No, just that the approach to the corner is tighter and the exit from corner is tighter. But you still move out to the walls, which you could hit and become damaged. Wall is main challenge in oval, grass is main challenge in road course (Hmmm).



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And when you add in other racers who are all trying to do the same thing you are lap after lap and fighting for the position you are in lap after lap, it can become EXTREMELY challenging.
if cruise control is challenging to you maybe yes

Um, it is not all single file if that is what you are thinking. We are always swapping positions and moving around in very tight quarters. Dealing with traffic on the oval is MUCH more challenging than what you may deal with on a road course. Most road course racing on LFS seems to be pretty much single file after about 2 laps or so. There is traffic to deal with during whole race on oval.


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It is much tighter than you would see on a road course
solely depends on who youre racing with

Well, if you see who races on teh server I am on, you will see that it is always tight racing.


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Oval is a specialized type of racing that not anyone can jump in and be good at right away.
one word ... montoya.

Um, he is not actually that good yet. He is kinda crappy at this point.


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The source of this information is not completely myself. It is a condensed compilation of notes I took from a television show comparing oval racing and road course racing on the SPEED Channel (United States station dedicated to motorsports).
oh an american channel ... now that show is certainly completely unbiased

The hosts of the show is a road course racer himself. So I think that there is no bias toward oval. Besides, Americans enjoy more than just oval.

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This post has officially been deemed inteliigent by 36 independent government organisations. Any protests against it's validity as intelligent should be taken up with the aforementioned organisations (which wish to remain nameless).

Sorry, but what was the point of this thread? "Oval and Road racing is slightly different. You have different lines in corners to road racing, where every corner requires the same line and is therefore easy".

Maybe I just miss the point when people say ovalling is really really hard and exciting and different and not even slightly boring being at full throttle all the time not worrying about braking, wet weather, accidents (because they just give you full course yellows or kick you to spectate immediately) etc.

I'll get my coat then...

The point of this thread is to see if there are any somewhat intelligent points that and anti-oval racer can make about oval. I have only seen the standard "idiots going in circles" basically.

And by putting that "Intelligent posts only, please" at the top, I was hoping to weed out at least SOME of the stupid posts that would simply say "oval is easy" or whatever.

By the way, there is no need for sarcasm from any of you. That is just a sign of immaturity from you or whomever posts something like that.

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Starting an argument over oval racing is not an intelligent thing to do- it's annoying and pointless. There have been countless arguments about it and there will be arguments until racing ends. They don't make any progress and never will. If anything, this seems more like a rant from you.

Oval racing isn't my thing. I think it's very boring to watch and do. That said, I don't think it takes no skill. I tend to dislike oval racing more on politics and the people who watch it(NASCAR fans, hicks) than the racing itself.

That said, I'll sum up the argument:

Pro-oval: OMFG WE ARE HAVING FUN AND ARE SKILLED
Anti-oval: OMFG NO YOU ARE NOT!
Pro-oval: Are too!
Anti-oval: Are not!
Pro-oval: Are too!
Anti-oval: Are not!
Pro-oval: Are too!
Anti-oval: Are not!
...
Rinse and repeat for a few pages and I think you'll have your "argument."

I did not actually mean to put argument in the title. I will have admins change if possible.