Had a rift for a while, and finally decided to knock up a rig to see how it runs in this game.

well 2 laps down and i'm done, son had a go and he didn't even last one lap.

im wondering if people have tweaked setting to help with the triggers of sickness.
im fine down the straights, but as soon as i clip a kerb or get into a tank slapper i instantly get nauseous.

Quote from petercollins :

There's no way I can justify AUD$24.75 on Rockingham, sorry! Have bought all content immediately so far but this is too expensive.

Sorry!

damn straight, thats 4 games in the bargain bin at ebgames, all of which were released after lfs.

call me suspicious, but looks like they released something for a last minute cash haul prior to abandonment.

Quote from skswat :

Honestly, I think that LFS development takes way too long and other games are now better in graphics, damage model and have licensed content with comparable physics.
Physics is the only thing that is in LFS on top level and I expected new tyre physics to be released instead of 1 track after so many years.
I personally would be astonished with rockingham or scirocco in 2009 when it was firstly announced, but not now in 2015.
I am big fan of LFS and played a lot, but my opinion is that updates should be larger scale.
And yes... Rockingham have 11 configs, but still its just 1 track with small differences.

hahahah scirocco, that will get released when the real car isnt even in production anymore.

you would have to admit maybe your release schedule is a little shit when an in game item is announced but only released after the thing its modelled after has been discontinued.

we will all have hover cars by the time we get another decent release.

the other hilarious thing, i said my son would son graduate before we got S3, he graduated last thursday.
and its not even really S3 its a track. so i reckon he will finish high school and be in uni before we get s4.
plus he already coding, so i'll probably just get his to write me a better game in unity3d

well i'll complain then.

seriously £12 and no guarantees. looks like your game plan and customer service are taken directly from EA, the architects of screwing the customer over.

made the mistake of S2 based on promises, wont make the same mistake again.

Quote from cargame.nl :

And then what? We get another 5 trillion topics abouts whats missing, should be different, stuff about cars and blabla? Would expect we are past that stage after six years now.

Like Steam is going to speed up development.

Unbelievable how repetitive people can be. I think the same topics appear here in 2020.

steam would means more people buying, more cash for more adding some coders rather than one person puttings in a few hours every so often when the mood strikes, so you know, maybe we could get a finished game by 2020, which i highly doubt it.
at current development speed, we will have a man on mars before S3 is released.

Quote from Scawen :

Would have preferred Oculus to stay independent but looking on the bright side, at least this is better than selling out to Microsoft for example.

why so?

i would have preferred m$ at least they are a hardware company, and whatever you say about the company, the hardware was always top notch.
they have the know how, they have the experience, they have the connections, that have the factories in china.

facebook have farmville and adverts.

Quote from Scawen :

I don't have any more to say about the tyres really. I just want to get them done, and I don't want to go on for years.

pretty sure it already has gone on for years. My second child just started her first day of real school. she was born the same year sirocco was announced along with the new tire model.
not sure we will need that tire model once we have hover cars.

gone like the mammoth, frozen in permafrost.

as much as i enjoyed the game at the time, the sad fact is Scawen's talent didnt match his dreams and just as i said 3 years ago, its west racings all over again.

Quote from Nadeo4441 :

All we can do is wait. I have a feeling that the patch is close. (Well I had that feeling last summer too, whatever )

is that sarcasm??

i only come back every time i get a birthday email, and shock horror nothing has changed.

like i said before, this has all the hallmarks of the west brothers racing legends crash and burn.

feature creep, trying to program something out of your abilities, too much attention to crap that doesn't matter, little to no regard for fans and supporters. the updates get further and further apart until you would assume the programmers have died.

new forza is being pimped and i'll bet it will be out before lfs gets even an update, dont even worry about S3, if that ever happens i'll eat my duke nukem box. its vaporware, cept for the fanbois.

i now have two kids in school, i think i only actually had one child when the scirocco was promised. i expect them to have graduated colledge before i see the vw at the current progress rate.

trololoolo lo lo lo lo

Quote from majod :

i can't even imagine what it will be like to find out one day that the patch is released...

it will be a normal day, cept you wont need to work cause robots do it all now. you wont need a car, teleporting now works on more than an atom of light and you will probably be living on mars in your body that doesn't age.

Quote from tristancliffe :

In other words, you're a moron.

Interesting comments Scawen. Looking forward to trying the fruits of your labour.

well lets face it, being anything other than you is a plus.

Quote from Scawen :

If you want to state that I have contempt for the community, then ideally you should give an example.

In fact, I'm working very hard to produce a tyre model that will stand up to the detailed scrutiny of our well-informed community, both in terms of driving feel and physical analysis.

It involves a lot of investigation, reading, experimentation and verification.

man, i was wondering just how below the belt i had to go to prompt a response.

i'll back in a few months, maybe more, to see if we have had progress

Quote from farcar :

I think Scawen's character has substance, and I belive him when he says he's still developing the game. You're appear think he's deceiving the community by claiming to develop when he's actually sitting on his arse doing nothing. I don't believe this is the case.

I'm not sure you're familiar with the whole west brothers and racing legends fiasco. you sound like fanboi's of past who insisted good work takes time.
They too triumphed the quote, its done when its done. as accurate and succinct as the word FAIL is, it doesn't even come close to that joke.

lfs current development, its coders contempt for its fanbase, all bear the same hallmarks of west-racing.

Quote from zeugnimod :

Because the devs don't want to work that way!

bwahaha, i love the assumption that work is actually being done.

its racing legends aka west brothers all over again.
it was a great idea but its now pretty obvious they are in over there heads and can't or are not capable of taking this to the next level to keep up with other sims that are already far better.
two months away from this thread being a year old and still no scirocco.
my daughter wasnt even crawling when it was announced, now she has her own little car she speeds around the house in, i'm sure i'll be buying her a real one before we see a release.

as long as post 4000 is telling us that they changed the current version to alloy mods, user cars and tracks, before they pull the pin i'll be happy.

thats my best case scenario atm

Quote from cardriverx :

I would gladly chip in another $20 if it meant they could hire more people to work on the game, or at least get stuff done a lot quicker.


Agree?

no!

give me a deadline and hit it i might consider it. picking random dates and then releasing nothing and spouting cliches of its done when its done and i'll keep that 20 and buy a 6 pack.
a cold beer has more to offer me at the moment than the devs.

as much as i hate twitter a simple 140 letter entry once a week could alleviate a lot of the crap on here. its the arrogance of trying to pass off no updates on not having time that pisses me off. its not lack of time, its lack of respect for customers that means you ignore them.

Quote from Vegas Las :

They told us the next patch will be released on March ??? No.

in case you missed the whole miss the release date issue, the scirocco was due to be released over a year ago. hitting deadlines isn't on top of the list of things that happen, hell i don't even think its on the list.
thats the thing when you work for yourself, everyone else can just go to hell and kiss your ass on the way past.
so don't go holding your breath for a patch, and learn to be disappointed it just saves so much time.

non contact motorsport. just like real life.

love the idea, let me go get my dress on.

Quote from Pablo Donoso :

lol I'm pretty sure Michael Schumacher didn't play cricket either but he turned out to be among the best drivers of all time, & lmfao0o0o even more that you're blaming us for your vocabulary...

way to go champ.

What's cliche is that you've been here that many years and only decided to start posting now?

well you're american so excused again for missing the dig hidden in the cricket jibe.
its not your fault.

i also fail to see how you can lyfao when there was nothing intrinsically funny about my post. your lack of wit and boring rhetoric is about the only humor here.
and i'm not to sure what is cliché about dropping in once in while to get some news and the odd post. maybe you need to look the word up, thats a cliché and ironic given my past post

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Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

You're an idiot.

well maybe you drive like you play cricket :P

Last edited by obzelite, Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:34. Reason : for the grammatical police

Quote from Pablo Donoso :

textbook definition of irony:

whining about other's supposed "whining", trying to make other's look stupid but ended up looking stupid due to a simple grammatical error. joking xD

well we didn't take long for the last bastion of rhetorical replies to be dragged out.

pointing out grammatical errors on teh internets is a bit cliché and sad.

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Do you think the irony of obzelites post is lost on him?

i fail to see the irony in trying to take sarcastic approach to calling someone an idiot. maybe you need something more direct?

whine me a new one

Quote from BOSCHO :

probably couple of years i think lol

your funny, no really i actually really really laughed out loud.
6 months and still no scirocco, based on that timeline my unborn kids can prob buy S3 from the money they are earning in the jobs they will have.

Quote from Greboth :

While I am not a LFS fanboy, I think saying it is a flawed simulation is wrong. A flaw makes something not perfect and while LFS isn't a perfect sim (cold tyre physics, damage etc), Forza 2 is just as flawed in that it is dumbed down and so isn't perfect either. Forza 2 is a final game where lfs is still in development so who knows maybe lfs will be come perfect one day. I wait for forza 3 though to see what improvements have been made, all I cans ay for now is I am looking forward to it.

ok, the thing isn't flawed, but an important part of the equation has a flaw.
and its not just cold tires, its hot tires, tires spinning in 3rd gear in a car with power that in real life would only chirp into second, the transition between loss of grip and retaining grip, tire temperatures, drastic loss of grip on worn tires. i could go on about the tires, and they are all little things, but together are a flaw you really cant overlook and when you drive a vehicke on the track in real life on a regular basis those little flaws feel like a big deal when you come back to having some fun on a computer.

forza is by no means perfect, it is dumbed down, but like i said the feeling of realism is there because it reacts how you expect it too. you can slide a car like in real life and the car regains grip during a slide like it is supposed too. thats a big deal and way more important to me that an accurate damage model. i try not to crash so modeling how a car should drive after i do is kind of pointless. yes it is fun now and then to just push way to hard and see what the car will look like when you barrel roll through the sand pit, but i'm not going to contiune to race in real life after doing that so i probably wont try on a simluation either.
for me forza just feels more realstic, it may not be a true sim, but turn all the aids off and it provides a suffient challenge i can enjoy and behave in a realistic fashion. it may not have all the under the bonnet stuff going on, but its the end product i'm judging.
i hope the next update is taking so long because the maybe the sirrico didnt drive like it did in real life and those problems needed to be addressed.

cross fingers, i like live for speed, i just hope it can keep up with the new stuff that is coming out. it had been cutting edge when it came out, but its now looking dated.