Tried the Rift with Quake, and felt sick after literally 10 seconds. I guess VR is just not for me.

With all that's been said - VR porn is pretty intense.

I wonder if I was to get one of these seats, if that would cure motion sickness.

http://www.accelid.co.at/showproducts_en.php?id=2

Quote from Scawen :

Maybe try tomorrow and see if you can do a lap!

It sounds like you are more than average susceptiple to motion sickness. I'm not sure if that is good or bad. It's like your brain is really paying attention to your balance sense and the confusion has a bad result.

Just as a matter of interest, do you easily get motion sickness on boats or softly sprung vehicles, if you aren't driving and if you don't look out of the window?

Good question. I haven't been on a boat since I was a kid, but I never got sick on a boat. I dont normally get motion sick in a car either, unless I'm reading while the car is bouncing up and down.

Just tried it with LFS, and its just not working out for me. It is utterly amazing and immersive, but I can't even complete a single lap without feeling like I'm about to collapse and puke my brains out.

I got the Oculus last night, and tried it with Project Cars. After about 1/3 of the Nordschleife lap I got so motion sick that my brain was melting. I will try it with LFS right now and if it's the same, the Oculus goes back.

Sounds like Rift it is. It will only be used for sim racing, in my racing chair setup.

I went to Oculus site, and it seems that they are bundling it with two touch controllers now. These are going to be useless to me.

I did some research, seems like I don't have the right room setup for the VIVE. I guess it's going to be Rift then.

Which is better for LFS and other racing games?

Can someone explain the sleep settings to me? There is a new setting "Sleep every frame" - should it be set to yes or no?

I set frame limiter to 60fps (with vsync off) because my screen refreshes at 60hz and I hate any sort of tearing. In previous versions I had vsync turned on.

Very good performance updates by the way. I'm running LFS at 3840x2160 with forced 2x2 suspersampling, and it look gorgeous and I'm actually getting steady 60fps now - everywhere with full grid. Before the frames used to dip below 60 at certain places with forced supersampling.

Got myself a 2160p monitor, and LFS crashes when I select that resolution. Works fine at 1080p. The video card is GTX780 with latest driver.

So, antialiasing has never worked for me in this game, however I always used ATI override and set it to SSAA mode, and everything was nice. But I just switched to nVidia, which doesn't have SSAA mode, and I can't force any sort of antialiasing in the game - gaggies are everywhere!

Can someone help?

So I spent most of the holidays playing old and new racing games and testing out my new Logitech G27 playseat combo, including LFS and most of its main competitions. These some of the games that I've played.

Almost all of the ISImotor/Gmotor based games - rFactor, GT Legends, GTR2, Race07 with a bunch of expansions. These are pretty old, considerably older than latest LFS, and it shows in every possible way. Graphics, sounds are very dated. They have a lot of (repetitive) content, and even more with mods (most of which are mediocre) but cars just don't feel natural, handling and grip seems fake, you dont seem to have the feeling of tires, suspension and forces working in collaboration with each other. No 900 degree steering animations either. I even tried Simbins latest Raceroom experience teaser which is supposedly using a new engine, and if anything it feels even worse than their previous games. Not impressed. I wanted to try rFactor 2, but didn't want to spend the money. I have a feeling that ISI or simbin aren't very capable without their core team that is now known as SMS. These games are direct competitors to LFS, and asides greater number of cars/tracks there is very little reason to bother playing them.

Codemasters GRID, Dirt 3, and F1 2012. Codemasters have been making racing games for a long, long time - I still remember playing TOCA2 back in the late 90ies, and even then it was a much better sim than ISI's first game - Sports Car GT. Original Colin McRae rally was also an amazing game for its time. Unfortunately Codemasters future attempts took direction towards arcade rather than sim. And yet, with GRID, Dirt 2/3 and F1 series they made games that are good mixture of arcade and sim, with amazing graphics, jaw dropping tracks, and great fun. Nowhere near the sim like LFS, certainly not in the same category, but well worth playing. Unfortunately their upcoming games might not be as good. Dirt showdown is pure arcade, GRID 2 will not have dashboard view.

SMS games - Shift 1/2, TD: Ferrari. These are all great games. Closely related to the gMotor games, but updates, polished, with much improved graphics and proportions, tons of cars and tracks. Definitely worth playing, but don't expect them to be the same level of sim as LFS, they are "simcade". I also tried SMS latest pCARs, which is supposed to be more of a simulation. It has potential but right not its just way too unfinished. Menu system is buggy and confusing, game has serious performance issues even on a powerful PC, and the only cars available are obnoxiously fast purpose built race cars that are hard to control.

Biggest surprise... I got a 3 month subscription for the very hyped up iRacing. This game is widely regarded as the ultimate, most realistic race sim out there. It is made by the same guys that were once Papyrus, and were responsible for game series such as IndyCar racing, Nascar Racing, and Grand Prix Legends. Even though I'm probably in the minority here, but I never found Papyrus games to be very good. I though ISI's Nascar Thunder was better then Papyrus Nascar, and I don't even like ISI games all that much... or Nascar. This is what I have observed so far in the game.
1) The graphics are lame. No better than LFS. Granted, this is not very important for a racing sim, but a lot of people kick LFS for its dated graphics.
2) Propotions just look wrong. When you're sitting inside the car, it appears as if your car is the width of the entire track. Its very difficult to judge the distance - how close you are to the car next to you, how close you are to the edge of the track, etc. On the contrary, in LFS proportions are done just right, better than any other game.
3) No 900 degree steering animations! The game reacts to 900 degree input, but in car animations are limited to 360 degrees. This is just pathetic.
4) Poor force feedback, feels very unnatural and artificial.
5) No feeling of speed. This is a problem that haunted even the original Nascar game. Your engine can be screaming, car accelerating at very fast rate, you could be going close to 200mph, but if you shut off the sound and don't look at the speedo, just look at the road ahead of you - it doesn't feel that you are going fast or accelerating fast at all.
6) Physics don't feel anywhere as natural as LFS either. With LFS you know when you are pushing your car to the limit, and with iRacing you get no feedback at all, very little warning before you lose control.

This is why I simply love LFS. I've been playing it since 2003 and I'm never getting bored of it. It doesn't have much content, but it has great variety. Theres every type of car from a slow street car to F1 car, and you can adjust almost every setting, and with unofficial addons you can simulate almost every type of vehicle out there, from Nascar to Tractor. Tracks are limited but also have great variety, from drag to offroad. And the physics, the menus, the controls, the driving feel are just so excellent. Keep up the good work guys!

Hi, I'm having exact the same problem, and the current ATI driver does not seem to have mipmap quality setting?

Hello guys. Recently the textures in my LFS S2 and S1 game became very washed out all of a sudden. I have not messed with any settings within the game, haven't changed anything, haven't replaced any hardware, running the latest 11.5 driver for my video card, and the rest of the games seem to be running fine. I think this happened after I applied the latest patch for LFS S1, which allows it to be played on Windows 7 machines, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Below I have included the screenshots of what my game started to look like and the config.

One other thing that I should probably mention. I copies LFS2 folder to another PC that I have, right from my main PC that has the problem, and ran it, and the graphics seem to be fine on that other PC.

Any ideas?

http://www.lfs.net/lfs_transla ... ewer.php?lang=Belarussian

I filled in the missing lines. If anything else needs to be translated, let me know.

Scawen, is there a way you can post the same link to English-Russian transaction? It will be easier for me to translate some of the more technical terms from Russian to Belarussin than from English to Belarussian.

Edit: Never mind, I found it. I'll be editing the post above until hopefully I complete it.

Last edited by och, Sat, 21 May 2011 19:00.

This may not be perfect, but..

Accelerometer = Вымяральнік паскарэння

Open configuration = Адкрыта канфігурацыя or better yet Бязмежна канфігурацыя

Stored views = Захаванны агляды

Move speed = Хуткасць рухання

Minimum height = Мінімальна вышыня

View smoothing = Згладжванне агляды

Transition time = Час пераходу

Invert left + right rotate = Разварнуць леву + Вярцець правай

left button - move = лева кнопка - рухаць
right button - look = права кнопка - глядзець
left + right - rotate = лева + права - вярцець

Last edited by och, Sat, 21 May 2011 19:05.

Quote from Scawen :

Dear Belarussian LFS Racers,

We have been working on a new official version, as you can see in the test patch forum. We are getting near the end of the testing process and nearly all translations have been updated.

But our Belarussian translator has moved onto other things, which is of course fair enough, we don't expect LFS Racers to stay with us for ever!

There are just 34 new lines of text missing, so we'd like to hear from you if you are good at reading English and writing Belarussian. We would give you access to the online translation system where you can update the text, now and hopefully in future when we add a few more lines a couple of times a year.

http://www.lfs.net/lfs_transla ... ewer.php?lang=Belarussian

Thank you! :up:

Hi Scawen, I was born in Belarus, but I've lived in the US for the last 18 years. Time to brush up on my Belarussian, I'll see what I can come up with.

It is a language that is very similar to Russian by the way. Very few people in the country of Belarus actually speak the language, most people just use Russian language.

Some new screenshots

The next gen Scirocco is due out soon

The sound was nice and crisp instead of muted.

That is awesome, lol

Thanks!!! I feel like a total noob now

I love the BMW Sauber Formula car, it's fast and handling is the best of all cars in the game, but its very hard to race because the point of view is very low and you cant see the turns. Is there any way to raise the point of view?