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magorik
S3 licensed
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about clutch
magorik
S3 licensed
i see that stronger clutch dont slips that much and imho in real life :-) in my skoda felicia :-) 50kW at 5000 rpm if about 106 Nm at 2300 rpm 4 cylinder 8 valve

i have 10 years old clutch and if i go in fifth gear about 120 110 kmh uphill i have about 3500 rpm at 120 km h , very long uphill only i 65kg and felicica 950 kg, over this 1,5 km long hill i must floor it because on top i dont have 120 km/h but only 100 km/h :-)))

on top of the hill aj can smell clutch :-) its very different to smell of engine or brakes :-) (brakes uphill dont smell :-) ) i realy love rev up 6000 rpm and never smell that , i can go 110kmh in third gear to 6000 rpm, and no smell of clutch

sometimes if i have passengers family about 200 kg and me i can sense clutch slips if i go uphil in fifth gear i have about 80 kmh 2800 rpm and if road is bumpy and one bridge uphill is bumpy aj can sense clutch sometimes slip, engine rev s up about 100 rpm and after while it gets down, its just not from disapearing load from front wheels because car jumps over bumpy road, it happens if i go uphill with full load and hill is very steep 12 % , thinking of it because i have high gear low rpm , floored pedal , engine have bigger torque in low rpm , maybe if iam pushing that longer i can get engine stall, but i am not heartless i just downshift, but theoreticaly thinking about it :-))

it maybe happen because clutch is old and worn , today i feel that i can't get car moving just with clutch and no gas, i sense that clutch bites, 3 years ago that clutch was fluid i was standing on cluth on hill and if i gets green i just slowly release clutch and car gets moving uphill (little uphill moving :-) ) , today worn clutch it just bite and engine stop without warning , slowly release pedal and bog stalled engine, today i must get little gas if i want stand on clutch uphill

but you know most time i drive alone, i have som bad habits :-) and dont realize that add 200 kg to 50 kw and its lazy dont help reving :-) it just dont have enought power 1.3

i just want describe that if only one hill can heat clut that i can smell it,than in race with bad shifts flat shifts clutch must heat even more

sometimes i do flat shift (not totaly flat :-) like in lfs, i just hold little gass and if i miss the revs) i get fantastic slip :-)

typicaly on second gear do 5800 6000 rpm about 80 kmh and fast shift to third gear, car literaly skips front for a split second i can feel it in back :-) but in later 2 seconds i can see revs dramaticaly drops 500 rpm ,to 3000rpm because engine dont have enought power and drops to rev where he has enough torque, or something like that :-))

now if i think about that i am confused ever more, because i realize that clutch slips only if its not full released and i do flat shift and have gas pedal under load , and second if i have 5 gear and low rpm about 3000 uphill (engine have max torque 106nm in 2300 rpm ) and uphill car with passengers sometimes clutch slips

but if it slip and clutch pedal is full released clutch slip only tothe point where torqe and rev are matching and gets transfered to the wheels at that point clutch bite and hold

if i recall clutch in race car is hard because it cant slip , you can burn pneu if you floor it, but clutch cant slip its last thing you can get if you want from engine max

i just thinking i have g25 , if i can race like before with auto clutch, auto clutch its just very big advantage over manual, in formula seqentional gearbox you don have to heel toe, but in H pattern i think i just must race with autoclutch i cant think where i can get advantage something good with manual clutch

guys with autoclutch just change gears always same in every type of gearbox like it is sequentional gearbox, they just change gears and break with engine

sorry for bad english its real fight for me:-)) describe, what i feel, just correct me, i understand english way better than i write and speak :-),i want read more about clutch, maybe i am in big mistake with some detail maybe i'm totaly off :-)) and in bad topic
magorik
S3 licensed
thanks scawen x31 works better

i dont have problem with non working second controller, like i had in x30, x360 pad and g25 works together
problem with 2 controllers
magorik
S3 licensed
hello i have problem with second controller

in vista 64 x10 patch i have conected x360 controller and g25 wheel and everything works fine 2 controllers detected and 2 controllers works

in vista 64 x30 there is a message 2 controller detected i can see axes but they dont react and g25 is dead, if i unplug x360 controller restart lfs g25 is recognised and responding

there is probably some bug because in x30 i cant have x360 pluged because g25 stops work

i try this in x30 over clean install x10 and same problem , i cant have pluged x360 controller

everything else is superb i like manual clutch , it make driving very interesting, because every change of gear is uniqe, i can make errors
magorik
S3 licensed
Quote from Scawen :Yes Magorik.

You can add a line ff=80 (or whatever number) into the CAR.lfs scripts in the data\scripts folder.

i was thinking about slider in "steering" below wheel turns in car setup but if there is another way i try it :-)
i am not script guru :-) but you got point i just got scared :-)) and jumps over gazilions of commands :-)

thanks :-)
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magorik
S3 licensed
Quote from Scawen :Hahaha you are right!

I am taking it a bit easier for a few days, just gotta do another function someone's waiting for...

how about something like per car force feedback setting

example: Fwd with 15 %
Rwd 7 to 10 %
BF1 20%
every car i have diferent setting, i am tired that i must change it every time i change car

:-) sorry for engrish :-)
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