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karkar
S2 licensed
oh, allright.
so is that already the one u can play fast forward?
i mean the one in ur link
karkar
S2 licensed
well guys,
i have to say, that i won't be able to join this round.
my wheel or better my pedals broke down in the day b4 the qualy of the ky500.
so i can still race oval, but no circuit track by now.
hope to get an answer and a newpeday from logitech soon, so that i can join next round again.
althought, good luck to all of you..

best regards

karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
yeah, already got it.
but i guess it is without the inlays and stuff.
and if i got it right falke will modify it a bit.
but not too sure about that, maybe i got something wrong.
but anyway, thy for the link.

karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
very nice work.
looks great with the inlays
waiting for the whole stream, if it is going to be done in that way?!


karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
Quote from racer hero :The internet is a public place, what you say and do on the internet is in public. Your Ventrilo server is on the internet. This makes it a public place.

NO.
the server has been passworded and so it is not a public place.

@ pmd
if you would know the law in your country, u would know that it is not allowed to record phonecalls without having permission to do so.
isn't that kinda the same thing???
karkar
S2 licensed
nope.
sry, i do not want to be recorded without beeing aware of that someone is doing it...
cause it will always make a difference if u talk with your mates or with an official person, which i consider deko to be in this race.
if you are fine with that, okay, but i am not.
and a phantom is in the channel that we can hear deko, if he for example tells us about the GREEN FLAG. or if we tell him that there is going something wrong.
but not to record others.
i give you your opinion, so plz let me my opinion

karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
@ pmd
that's fine with me, but i do not want to be recorded.
not at all
at least not if i have not been informed about it before.

@ nolan
i guess this is a matter of how u see it.
whether it is public or not.
for me, a passworded server in a teaminternal channel in not public at all.
deko asked if he is allowed to put a phantom in the channel, what we allowed him.
but still he did not asked whether he is allowed to record what we said.

karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
Quote from Raven88 :I would also like to say that each user has control on if they want to be recored or not. If you leave it turned on as an option in ventrilo, well then you are allowing yourself to be recored at anytime. In a way this is no different then if you watch a tv broadcast of any race, they are recording your open radio chatter. Also the only thing you are allowed to record is what you hear in ventrilo, so anything said over a private bind would not be heard.


Edit for popps:

Category: Civil Rights Law
State(s), Country: CA (CA), US

the point you make is ridiculous, at least in my opinion.
in international law it is NOT allowed to record someone if he or she does not know it.
this counts for america and germany aswell.
there is a difference about the permission in america though.
in ny for example it is allowed, if u tell someone that u will record him and he or she says, no i do not want that.
if u tell him or her, that u will not stop recording and he or she is going on with talking, than it is his or her problem, but you are fine.
but that is not our point here.
the point is that we have not been informed about it,
and that is not allowed in america, germany or at international law!

@ boothy
no matter, this is the discussion about race regarding things in the 500 2009 and not any other race u or deko or ndr has been running.

karkar
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karkar
S2 licensed
@ deko
sry 4 answering that late, but I've been busy with school stuff.
to come back to the theme of crossing pitstalls.
this is what u have written in the rulebook:
You shall not cross more than the stall preceding and the stall following the stall
you wish to stop in. You shall drive in the pit driving lane (closest to the pit wall)
until you reach your desired stall. You may be issued with a Drive-Through

Penalty for violation of this rule
there is nothing in it which makes a difference between a grenn track or under yellow.
and about the practise sessions.
there have been a lot of simple 1 hour free practise sessions where it was no matter of crossing pitstalls.
so for me it is not about that 1 incident with 116.
he won the race okay.
but for me it is about the rules in general.
if someone does not stick to the rules and does not get penalized for that,
i guess i can drive over others back in the next race an do not get penalized for that either.
again, just my personal opinion, nothing from that is showing theopinion of fragmaster at all.



karkar
S2 licensed
wanna join the 350
-FZR
-Pilot: 55 P.Papenfuss (karkar)
-Fragmaster

hope to see u there.
karkar
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karkar
S2 licensed
Quote from racer hero :Those are fine, what I don't like is all the other people coming in and trying to back up your protest. It should be 116 and whoever protested discussing the protest that THEY made. No one else should discuss the protests which they did not make.

so why are u talking here then?
karkar
S2 licensed
This all feels very desperate and petty now. If anyone should get a post race penalty it should be car 302 for what happened with the two CoRe cars. All FM car's look eh? Really?

i really can't tell u how agressive i get if i read such statements.
there is 1 thing.
WE ARE NOT ALL EQUAL!!!!!!!!
yes, we are in a team, but that does not mean that 302 could drive as good as 123 od that i could drive as good as 808.
in a such a race everybody is responsible for himself.
we are all free thinking people, and i get absolutly mad if i always hear.
the fm way the fm way........
who the hell cares???
nobody. cause as smeg said it is not our event so we have to stick to the rules like everybody else.

@ deko
about car 116 crossing several pitstalls.
i remember the statement u gave on vent to that after the race:
"listen guys, it is MY event and that are MY rules."
i agree totaly.
but if u wanna be taken any serious as a race director u have to stick to the rules u made and put out penalties if someone does not stick to them.
and in the rulebook there is nothing that says, it would be allowed to cross pitstalls during sc periods and u did not say it in the driver briefing b4 the race either.
so if u do not penalize that, u know how my point of view from u as a race director is.

karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
@ jeffy
that is the truth and nothing as the truth my brotha.
@ all the others
if u like to use that spotter, okay.
but from what i know it does not always work the way it is supposed to be.
so i would not use it.
i simply think it has no use if a program tells u that u are clear, but u can't trust it and still have to check it by your own.
also about the behaviour on ventrillo.
during the race, please be as quiet as possible.
your talking might distract other drivers and they cannot hear what the racedirector tells you.
also about your mi in vt.
there are 2 options of using it.
one is voice activated, so the guys will hear u if u say something.
the other one is to select a buton, and just if u press it, people will hear what u saz.
and the last one is what i recommend.
cause nobodz wants to hear something like> @WTH what are u doing u silly.......

so far for now

good luck guys
karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
i know that the filenames are too long.
but what shall i do?
i also need a 1024x1024 version for every driver.
so i need the 2048 one called different
karkar
S2 licensed
well guys, just in general.
i know u are all doing this to get the best position as possible in the main race.
but i got to say something about the behaviour.
I'm part of fm as u know and we run ,at least in my opinion, the best public oval servers.
sure some of our rules like 'don't block the inside lane' will not work in a long race like the ky500,so i think deko's rulebook is nice for such an event.
but still, even if there is no rule, try to get advantage out of decent behaviour.
so, if u do not have enough speed to pass, DON'T PASS.
if u are not familliar with oval racing, i recomment to watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... 88B15DEF15390&index=0

another thing is watching replays and learning from what u did wrong.
if someone needs a replay of a good drafted lap or race, no matter how many cars involved, just write me a pm.
so u can compare what u did with the way it should be.
if anyone does not know what to do i a certain situation, i offer u to ask me and i will do my best to help u.
i do not mean that for the race or a practise session, but afterwords.
just if u are unsure what u should have done, ask.
generally i does not make sence to go side by side.
u should do that for the first half lap or lap after the start or restart,
but then everyody should line up to make it working.
that is the only way of getting good laptimes, and in the end that will bring u to the leaders.i doesn't matter whether u got position 15 or 16 on a restart, the key is to use the draft of other cars.
i know my english is not that good, so it might be difficult to understand now.
but anything is not clear for u, just join vent and ask.
there will always be a person who is willing to help u out.

karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
well another post from me.
i wanna report the crash between car 30, 555 and 029.
deko u told them often enought to be patient, but they didn't react and crashed,
which takes me out.
there is no way of accepting it, at least in my opinion.
if a race director tells u to do something, u simply got to do it.
if u don't in my opinion they should be BANNED.
no matter what u have to follow the racedirector.

karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
for me u did a great job man.
it took some time till u were at my place, but after that it was allright.
but i got a question about the pitstop:
like in yesterdays praactise session i was going into the pits after thilo has flipped me back on my wheels.
i know that rule that u have to go to a pitstall as close to the exit of the pits as possible.but like it happened to me yesterday the car ahead of me simply took a pitstall in the middle. i took of course the pitstall behind him, cause in my position i did not know whether the were any pitstalls left at the front. so i did not follow the rule, but actually i do not think that i had another oppotunity. so how would that be treated in the race?
would i get a penalty?

karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
just 1 questions about the conditions.
do u know them already or will they be just like it is at that time in kyoto in the real world(i'm talking about wind). and also what about the time:
will it be 'clear day' or 'cloudy afternoon'?
thx anyway
karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
Here are finally all the FM skins for the Ky500
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karkar
S2 licensed
here is my skin.
karkar
S2 licensed
i'll be there.
but what about vent?
ahouldn't it be mandatory for everybody?
but it's just a suggestion.
karkar
S2 licensed
practise was allright for me, although i got a crash from mister aroX123,
so thx for that....
but i would prefer another starting procedure like it is in igtc.
so safety car goes in earlier and the pace and the start is made by the leaders.
and the green flag just if it was a correct one or if a restart is necessary.
would make things way more safe.
but anyway just keep on practising guys =)

karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
wait till u have wind and u are in a 3car draft....
they will go up to at least 145° so it will be difficult.
but yeah, let's just see how things are going today evening.
karkar
S2 licensed
i have to agree with u totaly rudy...
i understand the worries of people, that more people will crash with those r2's.
but just qualify better than those people and u should be fine.
also it is less dangerous after a sc periods.

karkar
karkar
S2 licensed
for me race was allright.
got turned around in the sprint but made my way back to better positions.
i had lag problems aswell, didnt get any dc but i think it cost me 1 position
cause i had to stay behing agarash when he came out of the pits cause he was jumping all over the track (but he was faster then me anyways, so
i do not think that i would have been able to hold him behind me)
but in my opinion it was not the server, just some people who were connected.
cause i've still been on the server when races were over and after some people disconnected lagometer was perfect.
so i think it would be better just to have a look at peoples pings.
if the situation with lag is that bad again in south city, rudy and the other fast guys might get into trouble while overlapping slower cars...

karkar
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