Grinn, i guess with the hostilities between groups of posters here there's nothing "loving" around here, is there?
You've all come together to thrash makeshift cars around a track that's also made up (and brilliantly unique i might add)
yet most of you dont know how to communicate properly, thus proving the online anger of this game is quite pathetic... there are racers who are curtious, but by reading these posts here i feel like i've come upon the biggest "gareths" of this community. Way to go.. really... you give this community the much desired love this game is giving back to you, in trade of your sparetime. NOT.
Personally.. i dont give a rat's behind for what you think is right or wrong.. most of you are so scrambled in the upper quarter that i just cant think of a right "corner" to put you. You might race fine, from time to time, but i guess when seeing a car entering a corner a bit wide, most of you jump the gap and simply push the other car aside without even a simple sorry.. his race ends and you gain a place.. hardly a gentlemen's sport you are actively corresponding in here about.
be it racing or drifting.... you "commentors" to me are just wreckers, the "reply'ers" are the one's i'd trust on track.
Oh.. and here's a bit of racing COMBINED with some drifting(and no i'm crap at that too), courtesy of Mark who was grinning from ear to ear till it hurt last week.
great protest you've got there Becky.. and you are right.. and yes..
i too am guilty as i was damn proud of beeing able to work and save up the money to buy the damn thing... love it to bits, even built a rig around it, which i recently edited.
Lol.. and we thought "back then" having Ironman (a tiny offroadracinggame) on the schools pc's was cool.. they didn't notice some boys "checking" the systems untill a printer started it's work whilst there was a test on ... a written test. After that someone put Prince of Persia on nearly every pc..
if you'd do that in a real car.. your nose would be on the wheel every shift m8..
learn it like this:
kick clutch, lift throttle as you shift up, let up clutch slower then you kicked it and throttle up again as the clutch is 3/4th up.... takes me less then a second irl. grinn.. COSTS me a second on track compared to paddleshifting.
I just read this thread and it's great!
A friend of mine from Finland told me i should push F9 in game to see the tiretemps and the clutch temperature, AFTER we'd been driving for about 10 laps, the clutch wasn't even touched it appeared.. does this mean i've been clutching correctly in real cars all these years?! hehe
The thing i missed or may have overlooked is: Basically playing with the throttle and clutch.. one is almost always pressed. When one is pressed the other is depressed.. hold two hands up to demonstrate:
now bend right hand towards the screen and keep the other upright, now slowly move the right hand to the upward position whilst the left hand is bending towards the screen. Now this motion is the same that your feet should be doing whilst shifting. You cant expect finesse in a drivingsim, but you WILL note the difference if ever you get the chance to drive in a real car (dont go joyriding, it will follow you for the rest of your life!).
The only thing i stumbled on was... dropping the gear from 2nd to 1st? in a roadcar you'd have to FORCE the shifter forwards into 1st, it's a sort of safety so you dont push the stick into first while the car is still rolling. Most cars have this safety. It disengages at about 5-10 km/h. And most cars over here are economics, which require about 1200 rpm to roll off in 1st. When i read 2000 rpm i was thinking of my granny driving off, revving it high and burning the clutch as her hearing wasn't very good at the time (EDIT:whoops.. misread that part offit.. my bad, sorry, was under the impression it was driving off from a standstill instead of overtaking.. sry)
You will certainly enjoy driving Racingsims with a wheel James, the only downside is that you will have to "learn" to drive with it. I started off with a saitek R440, it had only 180 degrees of turn, which effectively meant... ehr.. not much.. but enough for racing. I had to learn to drive all over again it felt like as i was soooo used to the keys. It took me about 2 weeks to get it right again and smash my own pb's back then (2003-ish). I've started off with Race Driver 2, which i tried a while back again, boy is it arcade! then onto GTR which opened my eyes to how sophisticated a sim can get, especially how difficult it was to drive, then GTLegends, which still sucks me in, it's still a great sim allthough it has a load of anoying bugs which never got fixed (thx slimebin) then Rfactor with it's open source stuff, ppl can build theyre own cars/tracks if theyre handy and patient enough.. and now LFS. LFS felt right, spot on right off the bat. Oh and since GTLegends i've "upgraded" to a G25 from Logitech, expensive but well worth it. 900 degrees of rotation (as does the DFP/Driving Force Pro which is a good one also i've been told) 3 pedals (normal it seems is 2 pedals) A shifterunit and paddles behind the wheel (normal is just the paddles).
Last year i built a "racingseat" .. well.. got some lumber and a seat from the scrapyard and started sawing and screwing and it's still not completely finished as i've spotted some updates.. hehe
It's pretty basic but it's such a nice feel instead of clamping it on the desktop and sitting in an officechair of which some roll back under severe braking.. hahaha.
Here it is: http://www.thewayiplay.com/mainforum/index.php?topic=24.0
Anyways James, welcome to the world of simracing.
I've just bought my S2 Last weekend and loving every minute of this Sim.
First thing i thought of while reading RoR was that i nearly froze my last computer by showcasing all the verhicles and theyre capacities in one screenshot.
Well.. almost all as the "rubber bands" mentioned before kept on swaying and dropped the fps from about 27 slowly but surely to 2..
and it took very long for sure.. hehe. Cool playingtoy btw that RoR.
I guess it would make a decent framehit to have everything hang loose, but.. who knows what's possible in the future, good suggestion.. (now i'm thinking doors hanging on one hinge and beeing dragged by the car.. hehe.. exhausts dangling under the car touching the ground as you have been catapulted over a curb.. )
Thank you for the info kind sir.
That helped.. you have no idea how anoyed others were all through the night with my blinkers
I still love the option of blinkers though..especially for a beginner in this game, just a shame i'd have to use a profiler to get it to my controller. (i never had to use it before.. hehe) Or.. i'd have to make a mount for the keyboard on the racingconstruction i built. grinn.. Loving this sim more and more!
Frank here and i just bought the S2 licence after horsing around with the demo, i love it to bits and what you see IS what you get, great product.
Ill be trying to get to know all the tracks and variations before i plummeth myself online, or.. nah.. it's too much fun racing around.. i'm not the fastest, nor have i any intent of getting to be, The game just feels right in all the right places so i can hardly blame it for the mistakes i will make like any other person ( but i will try and keep it to a minimum)
Congrats to the developers, thank you for your hard work!
Regards,
Frank
oh yah.. one more question.. how do i turn off the indicatorlights? Funny how numpad 7 turns on left.. numpad 8 turns on right.. numpad 9 turns both sides on... yet they never go off?! any tips? (yes.. dont hit 7 8 or 9... hehe)