Thanks for suggestions. I guess i should have mentioned that i was looking for driving not racing games but i guess they should have Freeroam mode aswell. Also that Forza looks very eye-candy software therefore in need of new hardware which i not have yet.

To not make more topics. Which game(s) allow drive in real cities?

Quote from farcar :

BeamNG Drive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAzk5HHVp7M

Cool! I always thought and kinda wanted GTA and Mafia type sanbox games are possible to be designed with physics included(with ON|OFF setting). When it comes to simulation games Penn & Teller were wrong. They are very useful.

What games, other than Grand Theft Auto and Mafia, allow driving in realistic city|country environment close to real life?

Quote from sinbad :

And I always wanted a sequel to this:


It looks really good actually (Todd's game, not Live and Let Die).

*khe-khem*

Quote from Ingolf :

RBR could give you some good/cheap training. Especially pace-note training and offensive vs defensive driving etc. You do need a good wheel/pedals. RBR provides 200+ cars as well as 200+ stages, so there's plenty to choose from. Physics is quite good, but needs a bit of tweaking from time to time (depending on car/stage and your own preferences). It's THE rallysim, still.

Richard Burn Rally looks good despite the fact it will unlikely have continuum. What about Gran Turismo? I have heard they are pretty real too unlike Nascar games.

Quote from heson :

Most games are games and teach dangeorusly wrong driving style.

However, Richard Burns Rally gave me reflexes and methods that have saved me and my car from harm on snowy roads.

But at least you can experiment and have fun in games! Games allow you to do everything multiple times with reset option without 0 penalty and risk of injury or death or sue times!

Interesting. Maybe i'll check that game out. Is it similar to Collin Mc Rally?

Quote from Mysho :

I'm sure you have some kind of open area full of snow and ice where you can just go with your car and try it yourself.

When I started to drive, I wanted "to train" in sim first, but it's really just for reflexes, most games are games as stated post above.

From what I witnessed - LFS brought me reflexes on dry or when you get slide or drift on wet/icy/snowy road and RBR brought me overall feeling of what the car should do when in concrete situation. But just reflexes, not like I can drift like Tsuchyia.

Of course! However it needs plenty of cash to train since fuel is not cheap and not to mention it always is the only spot nearby so other people will be there and your training will be interupted and such.

I know the feeling. I simply like sims because you can actually crash vehicle and reset it. Of course the real deal is real deal and it will take time to make 100% accurate sim but it is not impossible.

Dunno about that. I don't have wheel and pedals for PC. Well i had but they were so cheap they met trash quick.

LFS is awesome simulator but for now it is limited to solid track racing only + rally tracks. So what if you need other profile sim like, for example, dirt, offroad, wet or winter driving sim? Is there any at all made for these tasks?

Another reason for this is that we have season IRL(in real life) with snow and ice and many drivers are caught by surprise and they make mistakes on road and some make unforgiving mistakes so this might come handy for those who can't afford or don't have training field to practice safe driving without wasting money for fuel and without risk of crashing or get stuck.

Also it is fun! Since you can't do such stuff irl without penalty it is interesting to do such stuff on purpose!

Quote from racer autov8 :

You're joking right?

Not really. Just look at news https://www.lfs.net/news/type/-2 about LFS - releases come out more often now so it wont be too long until letter A will come again after Z.

Quote from Flame CZE :

When you buy S2, you get the demo and S1 content as well.

You can check the shop page, hopefully it will explain it better.

I understand that but i asked if i can skip S1 and buy only S2 for 12 pounds without S1?

Hi. Just posting here to inform some of "bright" people that some people play for fun(mess around) so account info stats are nothing to laugh at.

Quote from Timo1992 :

S3 will be available???? When?

In not so distant future?

Quote from Scawen :

To be clear: There is no need to wait.

We will only charge the difference in price between S2 and S3 when you upgrade.

This is because S3 and S2 are not different products, but stages in the development of LFS.

OH! In that case additional question:
Can we buy either S1 or S2 or S3 without buying rest in between?
Example: Buy S2 without buying S1 and of course not having access to S1 content unless pay for it later.

This game really should follow other game examples like CarX and allow setup changes during driving without entering or exiting PIT! Also mouse view like GTA would be cool addon.

Quote from cuprum :

BMX PLS GIVE US

indeed!

Spoiler - click to reveal

Quote from DANIEL-CRO :

S1<S2<S3
logic

Logic is fine just need to understand humor. I was just thinking maybe we can get S3 key prior to S3 release somehow.

So after some time as demo user i am considering updating my status to S1&S2 soon but since there will be S3 soon my question is: should i wait for S3 or buying S2 will be valid for S3 aswell?

While we wait for LFS game on android and when we need different game(s) to be played i thought this threadytopic might come handy.

So what other games you suggest? As for me i found SimCity Buildit very entertaining lately. Best of all they released this as free version along with TheSims Freeplay but both require internet connection unless you bypass it.

Quote from Mr. Kninja :

{...}LFS is a racing simulator, the only time you would be crashing is if you, or someone around you, makes a mistake. The crash only lasts as little as a fraction of a second. Yes, LFS' crash physics could use work to make the behavior and damage more realistic, but we don't need a full-on simulation of every body panel like Soft-Body sims bring to the table. It's just overkill.{...}

WTF? Why noone is paying attention to what is written? I was not suggesting crash physics but more detailed car physics where damage to car itself is very important in simulation because it is not arcade like NFS where you crash in everything and car doesn't even have scratch and where you can abuse car without consequences! Just like real manual and real automatic transmission also is part of racing but it is not included yet(driver assistant aid doesn't count). I was also gonna suggest random car failure feature but i guess that would be pointless too. Noone wants to hurt pixel images of imaginary vehicles in a simulator game.

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Quote from pärtan :

You know that beamNG doesn't have transmission damage for incorrect shifting?
And no engine damage for over reving? You do know that LFS has this already?

Is that so? Then why in real life this happens when you switch gears wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsGR6o4dnxU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXe6BXMSgn0&t=4m22s
Not to mention what happens if you switch to reverse at speed and viceversa.
:doublefacepalm:

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The more diversity the better! Currently we have lightweight cars and formula speed cars in vehicle selection but it would be epic to have also Trucks(without trailers just puller), Tractors(slow but fun), Bikes(it is racing sim without specifications), Jeeps(offroad fun and street variations aswell) and whatnot else is there in auto body-style variant db.

It would be epic and so i also support this idea!

In the meantime if you need unlimited track use Oval - learn to turn and it provides TOP speed etc.
http://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Tracks:Kyoto_Ring

Quote from k_badam :

{...}crash physics{...}

I was actually suggesting something else - car(engine,parts,etc.) physics but crash physics would be fun too!

This game is great and gets better with each new version but why not make it even more fun and realistic by adding vehicle physics? Like there was released this recently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X77cThD4vj8
Sure you might react that if we want that type of stuff we should just play that game instead BUT you are missing point then. I am not trying to make LFS new BeamNG but to simply borrow some stuff ideas that fits for LFS instead. We don't need all of it but if this is simulator not arcade(Trackmania?) then we do need additional improvements in that area aswell. Also this option should be optional - switchable ON or OFF in game options to prevent massive QQ from players.

Example: We would be able to destroy car by not driving it properly - switching gears without clutch or wrong usage of gear selection like switching to reverse while driving at high speed forward, not switching to higher gear when in manual red zone for long to damage engine etc.

Hello. I have played with FSoft and i also know that demo servers are full of st*pid kids who like to kickban for no reason just because they can..so i would like to suggest that you don`t care about demo bans..as for FSoft - you can avoid ban if you leave server before vote ends..

Hello. Is there a way to ignore some player chat text in LFS multiplayer game? I looked through settings but nothing.. :/

Sorry for bumping this thread but if i make new one you will still attack me..so once again i had a little argue on demo(yes i know that demo users are not serious but until i get license..) server but however which one is right:
I said that if person got S2 which is needed for skin upload it is grown up enough to decide if he wants to upload or not that skin and until i`m not modifying that skin or calling it mine its ok!
He said that using those skins by moving them to skins_dds folder is disrespect to creators and stealing..other person also said that if u`re not using official team skin but some funny skin like spongebob or powerpuffs and still not calling it as yours and not modifying its ok and its just a game! That`s the purpose the skins are made - for public use so that people can have good time..
Look i dont want ban|warn|whatever or to offend someone i just want truth!
P.S.There is a way - insert authors name on those skin files so that everyone can find and ask them if the skin is for public use or not..
P.P.S.I think that next LFS should be made with option to automaticaly give users ability to use seen skins cause they can be moved from skins_x to skins_dds anyway..

No! I`m trying to say that i can`t use any short wav file as horn by putting it in lfs sound folder - lfs don`t accept it as horn. Of course im not trying to horn formula.

Yes but there is only police skins. Where does other public services go? I have some police skins but i was curious if there is ambulance, fire and so on skins?