Quote from ToJo :

I have the same problem. And I also had it about a month ago.

So do you mean that you had the problem about a month ago, then it disappeared and now have it again? Or have you had it all the time?

I have to bump this thread back up because guess what, the problem reappeared! I had been away from LFS for a few months and then started playing again and it worked for one day and today I started getting "Did not receive guest info" -message again. There still seems to be no sure fix to this after all... Is there anyone else here still having this same problem?

Quote from wheel4hummer :

Following a thread means reading it, not replying. For example, when someone says "I follow soccer", they are not saying that they are a soccer player, they are saying that they watch soccer games in person/on T.V. Same concept. Following does not mean taking part in.

First, I'm sorry that I'm always here misleading and confusing people and talking offtopic but I promise that after this post I'll shut up.
Second, even though developers of LFS must be very busy (at least if they have a life outside LFS) I was waiting a short post even just one sentence "ok you have been heard by developers" or something like that. And like I've said before I was getting a bit frustrated by then...
But now I'll shut my mouth about this.

Quote from Victor :

And I'm tired of people misquoting me too.

If you mean me with this I'm the one who e-mailed you about this issue (with the link to this thread) and in your reply you said you would keep following this thread. By when I sent the message you quoted you hadn't shown any activity in this thread and I was just expecting you to say something atleast. If you don't remember my e-mail I think I still have it.

Quote from Trux :

I now have this problem. Or at least one very similar. I can connect to some servers trouble free and ther servers I get "Lost Connection to host" within seconds of joining.
There is one particular server that I play alot on and have always been able to connect, have good ping and untill yesterday never lost connection.

I have connected to this server many times trouble free with patch Z. I am not banned in any way from the server - quite simply something has changed. I have checked ports & firewall and all is fine, the only thing I can think of is that I did some file maint on my PC at the weekend.

Not sure if its relevant but this included cleaning browsing history, saved passwords etc.
Doubt its got anything to do with it but im outta ideas.

Try reinstalling (that's always something to do if you don't know what else to do).

Quote from dawguk :

FYI, I had this last night, whereby I was playing along fine, and for seemingly no reason my connection was dropped. I dropped out to Windows, and my Wireless connection had dropped. After a few seconds, it re-negotiated again just fine.

So I started playing again, and rejoined a new server, played for about five minutes, and again I dropped from the host. Again, Wireless networking was down, and again it re-negotiated fine. It did this possibly five or six time, and only sorted once I rebooted.

It appeared that it was only happening when I was playing the game. I've been connected remotely to my PC at home all day today without a single packet lost, so I'll test tonight and see if starting the game causes Wireless to drop again. I suspect this might be more of an issue with the Windows TCP/IP stack, so I'll check the log files later and report back.

I read from some other thread that some sort of "power-save modes" can cause this sort of problems. Try checking if your internet connection or windows is set to go in power-save mode after certain amount of time. If windows doesn't recognize that you are playing LFS it can just go in sleep mode and cut up the internet connection too.

Quote from batteryy :

im not sure about i have SP3(yes im noob at these things) but i do know i have windows XP pro

EDIT:Prtlhead, that worked for me till phase 4''i was able to join any server''

Well, for me LFS is working fine again. I have no problems what so ever. They just disappeared. I didnt do anything it just started working again so I guess its just lucky me . I really hope you guys can sort it out as I know nothing more thay you...

We already have an older tread going on about this so please go there
--> http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=45845

I had the same problem for a couple weeks and then the it just disappeared.

I may have a way round the problem here!!

1. I first joined a server that had no players in it.

2. I left the first almost immediately and joined another server that had one player in it and drove there a few laps.

3. I joined a server with ~5 players in it and it worked (usually says "did not receive guest info")!!:woohoo:

4. I was able to join any server!!:banana:

Worked twice with me today. I just hope it's nothing temporary.

EDIT: My LFS seems to be now working fine! I can join any server normally. I haven't changed any settings or done anything so either the game has fixed itself or devs have done something about it.

Last edited by PtrlHead, Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:09.

As the angry angel metioned I think it must be partly hardware issue as there are people all over the world (Finland, UK, Australia, Canada...) having this problem. I bet there is at least some people in Finland playing LFS with same ISP and same kind of connection as I am and they aren't having any problems. Why? Because they have different PC's? My PC is nearly 5 years old so that may be part of the problem (I have the newest updates though).

Quote from the_angry_angel :

The IP entry is irrelevant. That's only recorded if you join a LAN server.

Assuming you've checked your LOCAL firewalls (i.e. if you used the Windows firewall, remove LFS from it, then run LFS in windowed mode, and reallow LFS access when it prompts you again - use roughly the same procedure for other firewall software) - the reason for this is how firewall software identifies a program and whether or allow it access, I won't bore you with the details.

If it's not this, then I'd suggest talking to your ISP as to whether or not they changed any internal policies, such as packet mangling (throttling, blocking, etc.) before I started looking at anything else local to your machine. Given that only a small minority of people are having issues it makes more sense that it's not something related directly with LFS itself, but perhaps some combination of hardware and LFS, or simply your ISP changed something when the patch was released.

Quickest way to test that would be to download an older patch and try to join an older server. If this works it's still no guarantee that things have not altered at your ISP. IT could be that they used a way to detect LFS and exclude it from any packet mangling, and that now no longer works (unlikely as I do not believe the netcode has changed much in Z).

If that works start providing more details about your computer, turn network debugging on in LFS, and attach the debug to a post when you fail to connect.

The fact that you can talk to the master server is irrelevant, as thats only used to get a list of servers. Since you can get a list, you clearly can talk to the master.

I have already checked my firewall. It's not that.

I don't know much about these things but every time I turn my computer on I can join one (and just one) server with two or less players in it so can the problem really be in something blocked in internet traffic?

So changing my ISP would possibly solve the problem??

Can I somehow make a similar host-connecting test to some particular server as I have done to the master server in an earlier post?

Last edited by PtrlHead, Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:41.

Quote from PtrlHead :

Today I opened all the txt files and took a look whats in them. In about half way down in cfg.txt file I found few lines about the last server I had tried to join in:

Server IP 0.0.0.0
Server Name ^7Team ^4X^7cite Demo
Server Port 63392

The port looks sensible but the server IP is strange. I've tried with several servers and it always says "server IP 0.0.0.0". Could someone with working LFS check if it should or shouldn't be like that. I mean no wonder you cannot receive guest info if you try to receive it from IP 0.0.0.0! Or is the IP registered like that because the connection was failed?

Anyone??

I'm now pointing at you too Victor as you promised to follow this thread and you don't have even a comment about this!

(not meaning to be agressive but it just pisses me off when noone's willing to help...)

Today I opened all the txt files and took a look whats in them. In about half way down in cfg.txt file I found few lines about the last server I had tried to join in:

Server IP 0.0.0.0
Server Name ^7Team ^4X^7cite Demo
Server Port 63392

The port looks sensible but the server IP is strange. I've tried with several servers and it always says "server IP 0.0.0.0". Could someone with working LFS check if it should or shouldn't be like that. I mean no wonder you cannot receive guest info if you try to receive it from IP 0.0.0.0! Or is the IP registered like that because the connection was failed?

This is the result for check 1 from here http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=29454

Ping-isäntä liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2], 32 tavun paketti:

Vastaus isännältä 213.40.20.2: tavuja=32 aika=51 ms TTL=252
Vastaus isännältä 213.40.20.2: tavuja=32 aika=51 ms TTL=252
Vastaus isännältä 213.40.20.2: tavuja=32 aika=51 ms TTL=252
Vastaus isännältä 213.40.20.2: tavuja=32 aika=52 ms TTL=252

Ping-tilastot 213.40.20.2:
Paketit: Lähetetty = 4, Vastaanotettu = 4, Kadonnut = 0 (0% hävikki)
Arvioitu kiertoaika millisekunteina:
Pienin = 51 ms, Suurin = 52 ms, Keskiarvo = 51 ms


Jäljitetään reitti isäntään liveforspeed.net [213.40.20.2]
käyttäen enintään 30 siirräntäväliä:

1 12 ms 9 ms 12 ms a88-113-48-1.elisa-laajakaista.fi [xx.xxx.xx.x]

2 23 ms 5 ms 4 ms 10-1-1.tammes1.fi.elisa.net [139.97.9.170]
3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms ae2.heltli-gw1.fi.elisa.net [139.97.6.246]
4 * * 8 ms ae1-10.bbr2.hel1.fi.eunetip.net [213.192.191.49]

5 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms as0-0.bbr1.sto1.se.eunetip.net [213.192.191.210]

6 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms 213.242.110.169
7 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms ae-11-11.car1.Stockholm1.Level3.net [4.69.135.17]
8 41 ms 49 ms 40 ms ae-4-4.ebr2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.135.22]

9 47 ms 53 ms 53 ms ae-2.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.133.89]
10 48 ms 53 ms 54 ms ae-1-100.ebr2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.133.86]
11 58 ms 53 ms 53 ms ae-2.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.132.133]
12 52 ms 53 ms 87 ms ae-22-52.car2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.48]
13 52 ms 52 ms 52 ms PACKET-EXCH.car2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.151.98]
14 53 ms 52 ms 52 ms loncat01-ge-lon01.core.netline.net.uk [213.40.131.73]
15 52 ms 52 ms 53 ms lfs4.hosted.netline.net.uk [213.40.20.2]

Jäljitys suoritettu.

Sorry for using finnish translation of windows... I think you understand the mainpoints anyway but I'm happy to clear it if necessary

Last edited by PtrlHead, Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:09.

Quote from Mazar :

+1

Same problems here...

Best, Maz

These problems only in patch Z? Or have you had these problems earlier??

Quote from horrgakx :

Have you all having connection issues tried a tracert? It might show where a stoppage is?

Can you help me with using it then. I dont know what to do with it or how to analyse the result. I could post the result here then.

Quote from Technique :

Try doing a clean install. Download the entire full version of LFS (not the patch) and install it to a new directory.

I have also tried installing it every possible way several times.

I have now contacted LFS devs via e-mail. I hope they take this seriously and try to do something about it...

Quote from batteryy :

thats why in lfs you can chance the options. go Options/view/and somewhere there you can read ''driver OFF wheel ON'' keep clicking that message till there is ''driver ON wheel ON''

:doh: Whose idea was it to preset "driver OFF"!!?? I tought that would have been quite strange bug anyway.

Btw. what would be the best way to contact the LFS devs about this MP joining issue?

Last edited by PtrlHead, Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:17.

I've hit some more issues now!! I tried to play in single player and noticed that I can't see the driver in FBM! (Haven't tried the other cars yet...) I have now tried reinstalling and re-downloading but nothing seems to help. The missing driver must mean that there is something wrong either with my PC or the installing.

I hope this could be solved soon...

EDIT: I can actually see the driver in other views but I can't see the hands in the cockpit view. The same appears in all the cars.

Last edited by PtrlHead, Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:48.

Quote from migf1 :

I couldn't help noticing that you all guys are demo users. From patch Z all users (incuding demo users) must have an account on lfsworld.net in order to race online, so that may be your problem. Have you opened an account on lfsworld?

That definitely isn´t the problem. I have created the account for it and you cant enter the multiplayer lobby without the registration and password anyway. :doh:

Please LFS developers whatever you changed in joining the servers please change it back just like it was in the earlier versions!!

Every time I try to connect any server I get the same message: "Did not receive guest info". I searched over the forum but was unable to find any solution. The problem came with patch Z (all earlier patches have worked great). I have had no problems with any other game.

Im all clueless what to do so please help me!