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Music theory-help with modes.
FiveMagics
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Okay, how best to explain my dilema? I watched somebody play a tune on guitar here:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wgHsJijUPM
and in one of his responses he states:-
"... most of this track alternates between "C" Aeolian (Minor) and "Ab" Lydian, but for the solo I switch to "Bb" Mixolydian, I suppose the root (tonal centre) which all this is based on is "Eb" Ionian (Major)... "

Now I know what modes are in the context of a simple scale (root to root/ up and down) but I can't figure out how to give a solo it's "feel". The scales mentioned above are basically the same scale in that they all contain the same notes but unless I play them in a linear (as mentioned) up and down fashion (which he isn't), how do I give the solo it's modal* feel. I realise this is a complex issue which is probably far too much to answer in the confines of a sim racing forum but if anybody can offer some links which will cover the issue I'd be much obliged.
There are a couple of theories I have considered which may go some way to solving my problem but I'm not too sure if they're correct:-
1- Start and end a solo with the relevent "root note".
2- Is it infact nothing to do with the order of the notes played (in the solo) but rather the chord/ note played behind it.
3- Accent the "root note" (I am a bit sceptical about this one since many guitar solo's are played with a heavily compressed sound (ie. overdrive) which effectively renders any accents/ quiet notes indiscernible anyway.

PS.
a) I am already aware that many musicians have no interest in theory.
b) I am also aware that many musicians won't know what the hell I'm babbling about (myself included).
c) Is "Modal"* even a word?

PPS. Thank you for your patience in getting this far down my post.
FiveMagics
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Quote from tiagolapa :Best practice when recording stuff:
record it the most perfect possible. production isn't going to do any miracles, well sometimes it does but it doesn't change the soul in the original sound.

Spot on mate, I couldn't have put it better myself. I think the analogy GIGO fits here (Garbage in, garbage out). But will he listen?
Infact that's why I don't make many attempts to record stuff myself - apart from for practicing purposes, I'm simply not ready yet.
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Quote from obsolum :I don't know... I've heard stuff that's a lot worse than that Of course it's lame of him to blame you for the song not sounding "right" but in and of itself the recording isn't that horrible IMO. It's just some simple guitar work.

Absolutely, and I wouldn't criticise anybody simply because they can't play like Joe Satriani. I'm no Frank Zappa myself. The problem is his arrogance, he criticises people who can play like Joe Satriani. Even going so far as to suggest that the gifted shouldn't even play music because they "show off"- and that's anybody who sounds fairly good, not just the virtuoso guitarists. That's why I'm exposing him.
How to murder your own song
FiveMagics
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A friend of mine has for several years (yes he's played on and off for several years) nagged me to record his "songs" with my pc/cubase stuff. However he can't be bothered to practise or put any work in whatsoever. This obviously results in an embarrassing cacophony of noise. Which would be fine if he didn't blame me for not "fixing it". Anyway, enough is enough and I've decided to let the world know what he puts me through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRS9peMP048
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Quote from pearcy_2k7 :Missed a good free G25 there! Bollox!

No you didn't, lol. It's on it's way to you tomorrow. Hello Pearcy, just thought I'd make one of my very rare visits here to let you know I've pm'd you at NoGrip with an update.
Oh, and if you haven't already, you might want to download the drivers by the way.
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
If I may, I'd like to ask if someone could explain the situation with Anti-roll bars(even though tweaking them seemed to help me once with an Aston Martin in GTR evo).
To quote the basic setup guide in the LFS manual:-

-"If you have a stiff anti-roll bar setting it will increase stability but you will instead lose some of the traction available."

So what does 'stable' mean if it's not 'sticking to the track'? Thanks
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Thanks for the replies folks. You would be right in assuming that I'm not using the car to it's (near) full potential in LFS, ie. I'm not yet good enough. But I have the same issue in GTR Evolution. I'm no alien by any means (in GTR evo) but I can hold my own... Sorry, there was/is one exception. The default setup on the Aston Martin (can't remember which one) had the arbs biased towards the front, but when I reversed it I found quite a big difference in lap times. Thus suggesting I had a problem with understeer. Unfortunately this was an isolated incident and hasn't as yet worked with any other cars.
I have experienced a phenomenon which I suspect has been experienced by a lot of racers - When working a car with the intention of adjusting the setup I find a setup which I think has helped. But when I revert back to the default setup I find that I can make the same lap time. The reason being that the improvement was a result of practicing, not the setup. If anybody can understand my poor explanation, has anybody else had the same experience?
Also, please understand that I'm not suggesting setups are nonsense, I'm just reporting on my own situation and wanted to know if I was alone. Please, for the love of god tell me I'm not an odd-ball .
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Quote from buedi :I am sure Sir, that this cat is a dog.

If not... which race is this? Never saw a cat with such a mouth (or how you spell it in english).

I think that was his point, ie. "it's a dog in the picture, but I use a cat" (although I could be wrong). More importantly-what a freaky looking dog. Cover up it's snout and it's a bloody cat.
Where were we? Ah yes, I use 9-3 but I never realised until I read this thread. I also just realised that I spend too much time with one hand on the gear stick (and picking my nose at the lights).
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The importance of setups?
FiveMagics
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I have been playing various racing sims (mostly GTR Evo and more recently LFS) for a few years now and I almost always learn a track/car with the default setup except for gear and steering ratios. However, inspite of trying many different setup changes and many different downloaded setups (and working them to death) I've honestly never once found a single change which has improved a lap time by even a fraction of a second (apart from with the afore mentioned ratios). I was wondering if anybody else has found this to be the case? I have been told that changes are most prominant in the likes of F1 and F3000's and I only really use the touring and GT cars but even so... Furthermore, tyre temps seem to be quite an issue with a lot of drivers but I don't honestly feel any difference whether the tyres are cold, hot or at the recommended optimum temperature.
I should mention that I wouldn't expect a setup change to make much of a difference within a lap or two, so I have given said setup changes a fair run before reverting back to defaults. I also make sure that I am completely familiar with the track before making any adjustments or trying somebody elses setup.
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Quote from S14 DRIFT :You actually have to modulate the throttle in the XRG, you can't just be flat out in the middle of corner, like you could in an XFG.

As luck would have it, I've managed to handle throttle modulation in the XRG to a certain degree by driving the dirt tracks. It's why I like the rwd's. All the same, thanks for the pointer.
This is a damn good place to get help, I wish I'd posted with a more significant problem. Any idea how I'd go about bumping off an ex-wife without incuring a criminal record?
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Thanks JO53PHS, I'll spare myself the embarrasment of handing over a replay for now. I just wanted to know if those lap times were actually possible with an untampered-with car. If the ai isn't that good then it just suggests I'm crap too and need to practice, so I'll keep at it for a while.
Again, thank you for your kind offer and assuming I haven't thrown my G25 out of the window I'll re-post with a replay when I hit the proverbial brick wall.

edit: Ahh yes, the setup. I hate setups so I try not to veer too far from the defaults, but the one thing I can do properly is gear ratios so at least I can get the acceleration/top speed right. As for all the other options, I don't want to fall into the trap of blaming my lousy driving on the setup. I have played racing sims before and usually find that I'm only equipped to play with setups after the driving is spot on.
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Is my XR GT broken?
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
I have been practicing for what seems like forever and am around the 'pro' ai in terms of lap times. I figured that, that would be good enough for online. Anyway, I took the XR GT out on to South City Town Course [rev] for a practice session along with 2 other people. Flat out I was getting the same as the ai at 'pro' level (about 1:49) but the others were getting 1:42 and 1:45. I expect to have my arse kicked and if it's just a case of practicing then I'll do that but 7 seconds, or even 4 seconds faster than pro ai does seem to be a bit too fast. I couldn't get those times if I was going in a straight line. Am I missing something obvious? Do the ai and myself have the 'square wheels' option selected or is there a 'go faster' button in the options?
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
I usually beat the ai at 'quick', but not a cat in hells chance at 'pro'. I don't need to restrict my car in any way. Does this mean I'm crap, and does my erm... crapness mean I'm not yet up to racing online yet?
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Quote :
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Im disappointed with this guy, unsubscribed...

A quote from the youtube comments. This seems a little melodramatic, I honestly don't think that chudy2001 intended to cause offence.
FiveMagics
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Quote from naskavu :yes. Its pretty simple once you understand how to hack the console. I have LFS on my xbox.

Yep, I've got Crysis running maxed out on my Commodore Vic20 and Assasins Creed on my Atari2600:nut:
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Quote from Pearce :This is what i got in a e-mail,

Pearce,

Your account on Live for Speed has been locked because someone has tried to log into the account with the wrong password more than 5 times. You will be able to attempt to log in again in another 15 minutes.

The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: 78.98.76.151

Also my friend found out that the i.p is from around slovak republic and batislava....

Any help on this ( Tryed loggin in on my lfs account and it seems fine)


Pearce.



Sorry for sounding a bit thick but does the IP address bear any relevence, and would I be correct in thinking that IP addresses change everytime you connect? If so how would you go about using that information to resolve the issue?
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Quote from J@tko :TBH there's no way you can drive on the oval without mirrors.....

This isn't really directed at you, but a lot of people on this thread are blaming the op for getting rear ended. I've never raced ovals so this is a polite request for information. In regular track racing the car behind has the sole responsibility of ensuring there is room for error when tailing somebody. Is this not the case on ovals? Thanks in advance for any help.
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Creating a balanced playing field
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Does the car filter in multiplayer balance the cars in an even manner in terms of possible lap times? For example, group filter LRF has the LX6 and the raceabout, in spite of the very different handling are they both capable of similar lap times? Has anybody made a list of all the cars in comparable groups? Another example would be the FWD filter, those cars are all (I assume) front wheel drive but when racing together they would create a very unbalanced field. I suspect the grouping would be different for track racing than it would for rallycross which would necessitate the need for more than one list, but if anybody has any suggestions I'd be very grateful.
I'm quite certain that most could kick my arse regardless of the chosen cars but still...
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Thank you all. That's a lot of information, and as soon as I finish work at the weekend I'll look forward to working on it.
Also :-
Quote from Zen321 : I hope it does make sense ^^

Yes, it makes sense but as I said it's a lot of information so it'll take me some time to absorb it all. I am stunned with the ammount of trouble you've gone to and I truly hope that I can repay the favour someday.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :better you practise learning ahout your car.

That's a very good point actually. Having been used to GTR Evolution for a while it all takes a lot of adjusting. It's surprising how different two members of the same genre can be. Come to think of it, on that subject do people generally like GTR Evo here or is it a bit of a dirty word amongst the LFS community?
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FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Thank you both for the advice. I was particularly interested by your suggestion S14 Drift, is there anyway you could elaborate on your technique. I understand if it's just a 'feel' thing which can't really be explained:-
Quote from S14 DRIFT :FWD, 70%ish front brake balance, brake early on the tarmac sections and keep it smooth.

My own rather half-cocked attempts have mostly revolved around rwd with heavy rear braking to create oversteer>drift but obviously haven't proved too successful, and since your name includes the word 'drift' I suspect that you'd know a considerable ammount more than I do.
Oh, and this is to anyone, how important would you suggest left foot braking is. I'm thinking keep up the throttle while stabbing at the brake, or is this just silly?
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Help with dirt track racing in my underpants
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Okay, I'm really quite new here and although I haven't done much in the way of racing in LFS, I am aware of the techniques, principles, whys, wherefores etc. of track/grip racing. I'm fairly uncrap at Race07 see! Oh, and I can drift rather well in 'Grid' but I don't really bother with the arcade stuff anymore. The main reason I bought this game was for the dirt track thing. However, having watched other people do it I see they can fly around corners like Stasky+Hutch. Me? Well I'm more akin to 'Driving miss Daisy' at best. At worst I'm giving it doughnuts at the ice-capades. Is there anywhere I can find some kind of guide to flying round corners in muck?
Key questions I suppose would be:-
-Pedal or Handbrake?
-RWD or FWD?
-Is there anything I can use from my drifting experience in 'Grid'?
-Is it acceptaple to wear my ex-wifes underwear?
FiveMagics
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FiveMagics
S3 licensed
On a further note. People respond damn quickly on this forum so thank you all.
FiveMagics
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Quote from garph :http://forums.livetocruise.net/showthread.php?t=34

Sorry to be a pain in the arse, really I am, but here is a quote from the thread...
"There is a speed limit in effect for the entire map, it is currently 62mph/100kmh -everywhere-. This is one of the few flexible rules, as its recommended for everyones safe driving. Officers are able to enforce and fine you for exceeding the speed limit in thier presence."
So is it like a game where the goal is to get away with breaking these rules or am I genuinely pissing of other users if I do?
Oh VoiD, I happen to love shopping with my granny! Although it's grown a little troublesome since the funeral.
Cheers dougie, i'll check that out.
FiveMagics
S3 licensed
Quote from th84 :I think that question would be answered better at the link you posted above.

Well this is it. It doesn't answer the question. Is it a car/track mod? Are the fines and police there as a fun part of the game/mod, or are they actually there to enforce rules? Is it racing or what because there was some mention of robbing something or other? Why would I buy cars?
Edit: I've just read your post garph, Thanks. But I'd like to know more nonetheless
P.S. There isn't a contact address at the site.
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