THX Wiz .... but it doesn't work with 0.6E

Quote from nikopdr :

... I highly doubt it works on the recent patch versions.

It doesn't work.
So ... looking for Kegetys

Last edited by Vaillant, Wed, 11 Jun 2014 07:53.

Hi drivers!
Any way to have a ghostcar in LFS?
THX

Quote from KMSpeed :

...
1) You don't want to verify what aids/views/controllers the other person uses.
2) You want to be able to FORCE your preferences to him as an admin. ...

1) it seems to me in F1CH (Find the Limit) or NR2003 it happened
2) If possible .... But "force" a LEAGUE preferences ... not mine: I always talk about an eventual HCChampionship or an Hard Core League ....

Quote from KMSpeed :

... Let people enjoy the game in any way that suits them ...

You are right but why dont you let me enjoy the game in .... my way?

I have no problems if a guy plays LFS in ...... Copter visual, with gamepad, mouse or what device he preferes.

The game is not "Hard Core Mode vs Comfortable Core Mode"

Problem is to get a LFS verifiable (off-on line) about Visual, Helps, Control Device etc etc etc .....

For me that guy can play LFS in all the way he likes, but it'd be a great game/sim if I can verify .... the way he likes

I had a dream: a transparent sim

P.S. ehm ........ sorry for my doggy english

I haven't said .....

"You can play LFS ONLY in Hard Core Mode and ONLY with a wheel"

I'd like it'd be available ( ... if someone want ... and like other games like NR2003 or nKP ...) an Hard Cord Mode for LFS too.
No more

Quote from Dalek0220 :

... The F08 is TOO HARD TO CONTROL ...

You had to play the "old" F08

1) The milliseconds!!!

2) The False Start!!!

3) The possibility to edit a replay, to save only the lap or the sequence I want.

4) The possibility to create a game in Hard Core Mode if I want to:
a - In car fixed view
b - No helps if not "real"
c - Only wheel-steering (no mouse, joystick, keyboard)


....to be continue....

Last edited by Vaillant, Sat, 5 May 2007 15:51.

Quote from jtr99 :

Vaillant, I think you're engaging in semantics about the term "artificial" ...

Maybe, but once I readed that Papy FFB, netkar FFB (I love nK) LFS FFB and RBR FFB work in the same way (?) and ISI FFB works in an other ... less realistic.
I never understood what's the difference, but I like RBR/LFS/Papy/nK FFBs and I dont like ISI's FFB ..... but dunno (tecnically) why
Ne1 can explain to me the difference between theese FFB models? Or a LINK where I can find the answer for my question?

Quote from filur :

"at x amount of speed, set the wheel rumble to an amount of y", without any real connection to physics.

Sorry but what happens in sims with "no-artificial-effects" FFB?

Quote from BuddhaBing :

... the artificial force feedback effects are annoying and tell me nothing about the car ...

What's the meaning of "artificial"?
Other sims's are .... "natural"? :Eyecrazy:

Quote from Gunn :

Some Potentially Useful Hardcore Mode Server-Side Options

Forced Cockpit. Allowing head-tilt, seat adjustment and FOV adjustment.
Forced manual gearbox.
No artificial driving aids including:
No auto-clutch.
No auto-throttle blip or cut.
Set Max Fuel Levels.
Set Min Pit Stops.
Set maximum number of tyres available per car.
Blue Light at end of pit lane.
Yellow flag penalties.
"Live" blend line on pit exit with penalty for any breach.
Closed server after qualifying ends (cannot connect to server while race in progress).
No telepitting during race.
No auto-reset of car.
Reduced chat options. (3 F-Keys only, for example)
Fixed pit boxes for each car (must stop in your pit box only).
Longer repair time in pit.
Allow 2-car team entries where two drivers must share the same pitbox.

...

- Random damages ( engine, springs, brakes, tyres ...... )
- Wind screen getting dirty

Quote from Woz :

... LFS, for 99.9999% of us is a simulation that you run on a home PC sat at a desk. All of us use different techniques to help feel more involved with the simulation and we are all different ...

Wow!! Finally no more "Philosophy"!!!!

You have hit the nail on the head ..... and so .....

.. Is it really the biggest trouble in the world if 99.9999% of LFS

servers are totally free and 0.0001% of LFS servers are in HC-

MODE?

Quote from Cue-Ball :

.....

Be happy with these probs!!!!!!
I'm poor boy with a single poor monitor

Quote from Cue-Ball :

... it's probably best to just forget about it ever happening.

I hope you are joking!
What's the problem if you will find 5 servers in HC-MODE FIXED VIEW and 95.000.000.000.000.000........... servers like you prefere?
Why this .... "fear"?

Quote from Woz :

You have hit ......

You interest to ..... debate.
I don't.
It's not important what I've hit ... for me is important to know if
http://img109.imageshack.us/im ... /ottimocompromesso1yb.gif
is for you, for other readers and (mainly) for LFS Crew a GOOD FIXED VIEW for an (eventual) LFS HC-MODE: no possible HC-MODE ( imho the more interesting way to play a racesim) if you allow ... non-sense/ridiculous views.

Last edited by Vaillant, Wed, 17 May 2006 22:10.

Sorry mates ... do you know the word COMPROMISE?
We are talking about SIMULATION.
No simulation will be ..... REAL, and so everyone can debate for years .... years .... years .... without solution.
I'd like (please) an HC Mode for LFS before I am ....... ninety
Thi is a view (fixed) that I consider a good compromise for all

It's the "default view" when you start the first time LFS, with digital tachometer and mirror ... " left...ed " .... no more!
I tested with 3 different desktop monitors and 4 different laptop and
it's .... OK
Do you want to find the "perfect" solution? OK ...... i'll be ninety when you .... don't find solution!
While we debate about "realistic FOV" and other "philososophisms" ..... NR2003 players with their HC-MODE are playing great & fun championships

Quote from Woz :

... EVERYONE is in the same boat ...

What I dream ... from the beginning.

Quote from mrodgers :

... I'd never want to be forced to drive a certain way...

Me too changing server you'll find thousand servers you like.
I dont understand why a little number of servers in HC-Mode "a_la_Papy" (no FOV fixed) ..... seems like a Danger for LFS community!

Quote from Woz :

... everyone was FORCED to use exactly the same settings

In NR2003? Nope for sure ..... One thing is HardCore Mode and another thing is Fixed setup.
Like in Netkar .... In-car fixed (FOV only fore-back) and, if you want, Fixed setup

Quote from Woz :

... How is a cockpit view with 90 FOV more realistic than a custom bonnet cam with 60 FOV? ...

Dunno ..... in fact, I never said.
IMHO 60 FOV is a little irksome, but if one likes it ....

Last edited by Vaillant, Wed, 17 May 2006 02:17.

Quote from Gunn :

Forcing cockpit mode has nothing to do with FOV realism. It's about sitting inside your car on one side at a reasonable distance from the windscreen, that's all it is for.
For those who say that other views can have no advantage, you are incorrect. If they had no advantage you wouldn't be using them. Driving from the roof allows a clearer view of the track ahead and the cars around you. Driving from the bumper removes all obstacles from your sight, ie: your dash and car. Driving from the middle of the car has an obvious advantage and is as unrealistic as the former two views mentioned .....

Just now I've seen your post ........

The difference btw me and you are ... you know english language!!!

Sorry Woz but it's a big mistake!!!
For me, Cockpit View is mandatory in an Hard Core Mode ...... but not FOV regulation.
You can use all FOVs you want, but ...... IN-CAR.
You prefere FOV 64° .... go with 64°!
I prefere another FOV ... ok, I use it .......... but IN-CAR!
I mean fixed ... the cockpit, not the view
Of course I can move my "seat" fore and back but not up and down and not, of course ..... left and right!!!

Last edited by Vaillant, Wed, 17 May 2006 02:02.

No more Woz, please, no more!!! :bowdown:
...... As I said in #97 (.... have you readed? )

Quote from Vaillant :

.... I very rarely play LFS coze I'm just waiting for an HC-mode: so ..... I created this thread

My preferred FOV is'nt important, simply couze It doesn't exist :ices_rofl
I have'nt a preferred FOV. I never touched the default in-car view FOV!
When I play LFS (rarely) I use the default in-car view.
Never touched its FOV.
Papyrus decided what FOV to use in their Hard Core Mode? ... Ok! I played it without problems!!!!
LFS Crew will decide what FOV to use in an eventual LFS Hard Core Mod? ... OK, I'll play without problems.
For me default in-car view FOV is good

Quote from Woz :

... Please answer my question on FOV ...

Please answer my old .... er question on Papy and their choice to create an Hard Core Mod with Fixed Cockpit View for that masterpiece called NR2003

Quote from mrodgers :

... more than 60FOV is unrealistic ...

Mates! Please .... this is neverending philosophy.
You are waiting for a "really" realistic sim? a "really" realistic view? a "really" realistic ABS? ... etc etc etc etc?
OK .... you will wait since a Softwer House will put a real car under your "back".
Meanwhile .... I'd like to play with a complete sim ( if possible )

P.S. Of course, sorry for my "doggy" english ....

Last edited by Vaillant, Tue, 16 May 2006 19:10.

Quote from Woz :

If you want to be that serious join a league, or start one with the rules you want ...

Wow ....
But .... how can league control if players respect HC-M rules without an HC-Mode allowed?
Before LFS and its "serious" HC-Mode and after "serious" rules and "serious" leagues
We hope .....
Bye

Quote from Woz :

You are taking yourself TOO serious ...

Error!

I take LFS serious.

I'd like LFS more complete

Too many words Woz and no answer to my simple question: what about

Papyrus choice to create an HARD CORE MODE with fixed cockpit view for

their Masterpiece NR2003.

Have they to grow up ... too?

I'm still waitin for an answer from the .... beginning

Quote from Woz :

... "but this is'nt enough to be an hardcore player" lol ...

Why LOL?

I'm happy for your happyness, but never said that "hardcore player"

means "the best player" or "a player better then other" ..... he's only a player

that prefere a specific kind of sim - experience.

Last edited by Vaillant, Mon, 15 May 2006 23:51.