If so many people are complaining and moaning and bitching over slow development process then maybe there's a real problem there huh?
A team of three against big development studios. Go gifure
Nevermind though, it's their thing to go this way, but I'd say this will only push LFS deeper into the underground of really hard core sim racers and fan boys. If that's ok with the devs then it's ok with me. But LFS won't see me as often as it did when the development process was a bit "faster"

To sum it all up...LFS is a great product and it was the best mostly becouse there was no serious competition on the sim market, well except rFactor. Papyrus was busy developing iR and netkar was being worked-on slowly, just like LFS is these days.
But now we have iRacing, although capitalistically oriented product, it is the current king of sim racing. rFactor2 is also coming very soon. LFS is going to be completely trashed by the other two. The updates we are awaiting (tyre physics, scirocco, rockingham) aren't nearly enough to keep the users, which are already fed up with the same content for the past (let say 5) years, entertained or motivated to stick to LFS. Unfortunately a one man band (or 3) just doesn't do it anymore. I sure do hope LFS stays afloat, but I'm affraid it may go down. Not soon, but it will slowly start to sink.
I've been (and still am) a part of LFS for nearly 8 years now, so I wouldn't say I'm just trolling

I rarely come to check the forum these days, but my eye was caught on this thread, so I just have to reply.

Had a lot of nice times in LFS ever since the 0.2 demo days back in 2002. I know I'm going to forget a bunch of names, but it was great to be racing against drivers such as Rippance, Pallukka, MacEST, biggie...oh it's so long ago I know I've forgotten a lot of old friends.

Great times, great!

Nice to see the servers online again. But it would be also nice to hear a few words about the new patch and what's the reason for the delay

LX6 aka R500 or CSR260

I'm not a regular guest of this sub-forum, so I hope this hasn't been filed before.

At the start of the race, when lights when green all of the cars but 2 (me being one of them) were removed from the grid.

See the attached mpr replay.

Quote from Dom Duhan :

Hehe, well mostly iRacing, maybe some GTR2:P

I cant speak for all the guys, but parts of LFS are incredible and its packed with features, but I'm not a fan of the "on-track feeling" (feels more like I have to drive by rote rather than feel) and I would love to see a new graphics engine The grip levels seem in the right place :P though I drove mainly the BF1.

I know there are a few physics quirks, but I think most sims have them.

Ye, ye, ye. Why don't you just admit that you suck at LFS like you do at UT99

Quote from Scawen :

And finally to the point I am making, when Rockingham is released, S2 licensed racers will only be excluded from the Rockingham hosts or those which allow the new car. This will not have a very damaging effect on the S2 action.

As a result, there is not much pressure to upgrade your license. We are just saying, here is something we have done and this is the price if you'd like to use it. It doesn't really harm anyone, it's just something you can pay for if you think it's worth it. Of course, if you don't think it's worth it, and want to wait and see if there is more content added in the future, that is fine.

Why don't you go the iRacing way? Where users have to pay for each track/car. Imho LFS is way too cheap for what it offers.

Scawen: I hope it's not a rude question, but how much does the laser scanning of the whole track, like Rockingham, cost?

What LFB said.

If you have a bad safety rank and somebody votes to ban you, other racers will vote. Sometimes for a reason, but I've seen some undeserved bans too, so...meh :P

Thanks for your answers!
So there's no telling how old an LFS username is if it dates before jan 21. 2003?

Ah I don't know how to phrase this question right, so here goes:
I would like to know a registration date (for LFS, not the forum) of lfs users. When did a certain user became a LFS driver. Can this info be seen anywhere or is it hidden away from public?

Quote from FAburner :

the server would be fun to race at if u dont get punted out of the race everytime and the admins dont do a damn thing. its no fun

It's allways a big grid on this server. And most of the time you get a few fast drivers then a large number of average-to fast drivers and you allways get a few newbies. But it doesn't matter how fast you are, in a big grid races it only matters how well can you predict things and stay out of trouble and try to finish in the top places. Starting from the back of the grid with 20+ cars in front of you...you know it's gonna be mayhem! So take it slowly, observe the drivers in front and behind you, you'll know very soon which drivers should be (over)taken with care. Once you get in the top 10 or 5, it's usually much better racing with less accidents.
But still you will get crashed into and whatnot. It happens, that's racing and everybody is there to try to finish as high as possible. And I know it can be very frustrating if you get crashed out of a race few times in a row
As for the admins, they are one of the best out there, but I could say they used to keep the server cleaner than they do now. But maybe it's just me

I kinda agree with Takumi. This forum is filled with fanboys, that won't take it if somebody's talking "bad" about lfs or its developers. There's so many ass kissers here it's just pathetic. This has to be one of the unfriendliest comunity forums I have ever seen! And that's the reason why I'm staying away from it, because if you speak your mind, you will get trashed.

As for the slow development...I stopped caring a long time ago. It's their game, their work, they chose how and when they do it.
And for the tyre physics news, I'm looking forward to it and I sincerely hope it will make FO8 a much more driveable and enjoyable car

Anyways, I'm off topic here, so feel free to move/edit/delete my post

Seems ok to me!

Was racing on some servers that put artificial chickanes on track, like As National, WE...and I liked it a lot.

Let's face it, S2 hasn't progressed much (in content) for quite some time and people get bored. For me the best thing is to stop playing and come back in a few months (only to find things are still the same, heh).

Quote from geeman1 :

What's up with these offended people lately? There has been a sudden influx of these "this and that offends me and I wish them to be removed" threads.

Few things:
1. Words never hurt anybody.
2. Offending words are not the devs business to deal with. Server owners may decide to kick or ban people with offending names, but they may also choose not to. It's their server after all.
3. It would be impossible to make this game offend-proof. There would always be a way to bypass the limitations and it's simply too much trouble for too small gain.
4. It's your responsibility to raise your children, not a game developers. Also you can't shield your children from everything, only thing you can do is to teach them not to be dicks.
5. Just ignore people who offend you.

Amen!

This post should be a MOTD on every server

Why would you want to restrict the TBO class to match XFG and XRG? Drive them as nature intended

Ah that old story again. Empty TBO, LX4/6 and FOX/FO8 servers...
Seems like everybody today is either drifting, doing their 5000th lap on Aston National in the GTR's or doing ovals with FO8 or BF1. Hard to find a good server with good old' racing cars and racers

Quote from [SWE]RE :

Hrm, I did that too in the same clip I linked to above.

Yes I know, I watched your video, good stuff there.
The point is to try and move the car aside away from the ideal line as possible, so that he can't take the ideal turn-in. And while he's losing speed on the entry and although he's on the apex and you're not, you should be carrying more speed and be aside him all the time and from apex on you got the wider turn out line as he and he will lose time on acceleration so you can out drag him into the next corner. But both drivers must respect each other and give enough room and try to close or squeeze another too much. And like sinbad said in case of an accident it's your fault entirely.

It's nice to overtake someone from the outside, but even better when you do it on the outside

Quote from bbman :

Do you seriously think the community wouldn't be able to think of something like this? Do you think you're that much smarter you'd be the first one to think of that? Have you even bothered to look around to see what's already out there?

A typical lfs-comunity response

I'd realy like the "use old sounds" to be available in the options. Patch V is ok becouse of all the fixes, but i pesonally don't like the new sounds.

Well i can't unlock my lfs anymore becouse it says it used all my unlocks for this month.
What i did was go from U30 to U32 and used 1 unlock, didn't like U32 went back to U30 and used another one. Is there any chance i get 1 more so i can try U35? Or will i have to wait until january?

Btw where could i download the U30 from?