Quote from thezero :

Jesus christ, what a patient... I wonder how your parents would react, if they knew that you have waaay too much time for the computer. God, stop being an attention whore for at least one week, so my eyes can relax from pain.

it says who made the thread so dont read it if you see these alot from him :insane: you're an attention whore yourself.

Quote from yeager :

Not usually, i've been racing a lot on the IHR servers and sometimes i'm in the FXR on a track i've not driven in it before. This means i'm not at full race speed for a few laps. Sometimes I may have race damage from another incident or my tyres might be wildly over heated. In all these instances I might well be off the pace and my line may vary as I struggle for grip and manage suspension damage.

Irregardless of any of the above, if you were trying to overtake and lost patience because I was doing a good job of holding you up whilst trying to keep the car on the track with badly worn tyres... I would expect you to pay the same respect to racing as if I was flat out at full race speed.

Making a move out of desperation resulting in someone in the wall is a sure sign of a bad racer.

Nah see I think you just completely stuffed your whole argument there. If your car is damaged and tyres screwed causing you to be off pace, slide off line, struggle to keep control and all that, you should either pit or keep well off the racing line. That kind of nonsense isn't tolerated in RL so there is no hope of it being tolerated in a game.

you wern't stuffing up every second corner were you? or changing your line through corners every lap? i give people a fair while and be patient but when they constantly stuff up and then cut back onto the line i eventually make a move regardless of if they end up in a wall or not. then they go and cry about how i didn't yield to their bad driving. 2 sides to everything

Quote from Luke.S :

that is pretty unfair someone in a rich country might be poor while someone from a poor country is rich

absolutely! but i guess it's what you personally see as giving the most amount of people access to something.




on a seperate note, does anybody else find it rude and inapropriate when people advertise another game in the official lfs forum? ie website url under your avatar.

Quote from Kristi :

Well, maybe for you guys its not much to pay even 10-20 dollars a month to play a game, cause u get over 1000€/$ in your country. We dont even get half of the salary of yours here. Dont turn this into iRacing, its good as it is.

To join that couch surfing website the amount you pay is based on the wealth of the country you live in. Its a pretty good idea and would be great to see games that use the pay-as-you-go system start doing that to increase the amount of people playing.
but yeah as for live for speed, no way.

yeah mate I wasn't having a go ay I was just pointing out the issues I had with the system. There are drawbacks to every way to do it and was just pointing out one for that setup that always frustrated me. I thought racing there was great and once there is something in lfs for me again I will definetly be back. I just always found it frustrating not being able to take risks as much in a race because of the penalties for not pulling it off and this I felt took out alot of the close racing. Probably changed some since then but that was the issue i had at the time.
It honestly wasn't a dis on the league.
I think there is a great solution found in another game but that has to be implemented by the devs rather then the league.

I did notice though when I browse your forum every now and then that there are a heap more incidents just settled as racing incidents now where there were very few or none when I was there which is good.

Quote from The Chickenman :

In the league I race in the rules are quite specific, and state that if you are in the wrong, then you must stop and wait for the other driver to take his/her position in front of you before resuming, even stating that if that driver warps to the pits, then you must do the same.

There are still instances where drivers do not redress the situation and the admin/judiciary are forced to make decisions regarding the incident. At this time it is important that a fair and just decision is handed out.

I think it is important that racers dont feel that they can cause an accident and take the gamble that the punishment handed out by the admin/judiciary will be less severe than if they had of stopped and redressed the wronged driver.

i dont really think that its a good system though. it basically makes everyone suffer rather then just the dodgy people. it eliminated close racing from the league because no matter what, someone was getting blamed for the incident and someone was getting all their points taken. Racing incidents are gone. Ofcourse you will be able to narrow it down to someone to blame if you are watching in slow motion from rediculous angles but they are just racing incidents.

there is also the other side of the story where the new guys slow down on corner exits, brake on corner exits, brake at the apex of corners, leave the racing line mid corner then cut back in on line, fail to notice other cars next to them, dont follow normal racing lines and fail to brake into corners using other cars as their brakes.

i think its a great idea. it's annoying when u get mixed up and back off thinking the guy behind you is yet to pit to find out he has already pitted!

Quote from SidiousX :

Or you could do what I did when I used a MOMO and bind the clutch to the left paddle shifter?

Solved, IMPLEMENT IT

the paddle is a button

Quote from morpha :

Quote me, show me where I do.
I have said some condescending things, but you obviously took those very personal and blend out everything else I said.

And yes, I said I would not participate anymore. I might now just stop doing so, we've had a long enough discussion about what was supposed to be a simple suggestion, I'll be one less to put fuel on the fire.

i'm not going through the whole thread to quote almost every post you made morpha.

by the way, if i got your profile name right, over 1/3 of your laps are on oval if i read correctly which is the track that you change gears the least on. most of these are using the BF1 which are paddle shift anyway, and your last online race was a month ago. Yes you take sim racing very seriously i see and you have so many reasons to be concerned with people not using a clutch. ROFL

Quote from morpha :

Sure and it'd cost the same to run and maintain, right? Looking at just the earnings, it's a no-brainer, but what about the expenses?

You obviously don't understand, nor do you seem to want to understand. It is not about the standings, several different people told you multiple times. Take it as a fact, please.

Which we obviously do not want...

See below.

And why does it bother you if we do it on a public server that you are not on?

Errr. most of you folk on the very much pro side have said jackall other then you don't feel everyone else is worthy to race with you extreme simmer gamer people, and don't want people to have an advantage because they aren't as realistic as you. even though rofl a g25 does not make it all that much more realistic then a momo when compared to driving a car. i take it you get full dressed up in racing gear and a helmet and have hans device? i take it when your racing in a tintop on a clear sunny day at FE you put ur heater on aswell to simulate the horrible heat? i take it when you hit a wall and 250k's you go throw yourself off a building to simulate death? no? why not? its a simulator and u are tyring to get close to the real thing no?

yes morpha, some of the guys on the pro side have made a decent point, but all you have done is preached about how people are not worthy of your attendance in the races because you have a g25. don't now try and play on the side of the people that brought up a decent point to try and dig your way out. just makes their point seem irrelevant. btw i thought you said you were leaving and not participating in this thread anymore?

Quote from Matrixi :

Not this again. We have told you OVER AND OVER, that standings do not matter. I think this is the source of your whole misunderstanding. If the standing you are at is all what matters to you at the end of the race, I understand you perfectly now. For us, it is the trip before getting to the checkered flag that is exciting, not the standings afterward. That is why we choose to drive with FFB enabled wheels, feeling the cars suspension and tires with your own hands is something you can not get on a gamepad, but if something like that isn't what you care about, you can not possibly understand us.

wa wa wa wa wa wait..... if you don't care about standings, then why the hell do you care if people don't use a clutch? It makes no difference to you then! so why are you here? you don't care about standings which is the only thing it might possibly change which i doubt it.
here is a solution though since you are actually worried about standings or you wouldn't be in this thread, if it's a league race, swap over to auto-clutch so you can knock of that 0.1 seconds per lap, then in public server, do your clutch thing, cuz noone cares what you come in a public server, and if all you guys that enjoy clutching with each other, like someone else said, make it a private server??

Quote from pik_d :

Who is the OP?

beats me :/ i just thought morphas attitude towards anyone that doesn't live and breath LFS was a bit rank to say the least so no way i would support something to satisfy people with that kind of elitist attitude.

Quote from morpha :

Please tell me what I said that makes me a douche.

€: I don't blame you for not making the distinction between a game and a simulation, but LFS is not a game, it's an Online Racing Simulator. Says so on LFS's main page.
Here's a quote from lfs.net:

Pretty much everything you said from your first post onwards? You seem to believe that anyone that isn't completely obsessed with LFS and spending all their money and time on it does not deserve to be playing the game.
There is nothing wrong with having LFS as your number 1 hobby, go for it but if you can't recognise that some people have different priorities and enjoy other things outside of computer games your an elitist douche. On top of that, some people might not have $400 to spend on a steering wheel. to exclude them because they dont have the latest steering wheel on the market is again, a douche idea. you are just having a cry because you can't keep up with the people using auto-clutch so you want them to be slowed down to your speed.
if an F1 team comes out with a H pattern with clutch should all the other teams be forced to change to a H pattern with clutch so the other team isn't disadvantaged? no, that team should have a cup of concrete and harden the fk up. use auto-clutch or accept you will be a little bit slower.
yep its a sim and a sim is a GAME.

ROFL at morpha! you big bad simmer you. i was always wondering when i would come accross a true stand out douche on a forum, and i found you!

back on topic, what are you complaining about? if you want to use your clutch just use it? serously we auto-clutch users really don't mind if you use your clutch. we hereby give permission for you to use your clutch! great now we don't need the option to dissable 90% of user accounts.
it's still a game morpha. if it were available in shops, which type of shop do you think you would find it? which type of magazine would do a review of it?

all these threads would be here regardless of whether the devs said the scirocarioca would be out ages ago or not. it's been a year without anything so people are naturally going to be wondering whats going on. hey look at the bright side, when it finally comes out, we will have a classic car in lfs and nobody to race against

Not sure if this has come up yet, but it would be great to have to enter the name of a setup in a way that the game recognises what track it is for so that when you load into a track the setups for that track are at the top of the list in order of what you got the quickest pb with.

Quote from Shotglass :

youre talking about laptime variation which has nothing whatsoever to do with the tyres barely getting slower at all at only 1.8% increase in lap time

where does 1.8% come from?

have you been driving with limiter on since november last year?

Bunch of noobs, i got every WR saved replay on my computer, I just don't wanna upload em cuz i don't like to show off i drive slow on servers cuz im humble.

I have always been in support of the devs and the time taken to make updates and all that, but seriously its getting abit average. I payed for this game a LONG time ago. To use the excuse: 'yes but those games are finished this game is not' is stupid. This is the longest pre-order I think I will ever purchase in my life. Also, it is called live for speed, but perhaps it needs a name change now to Speed of the 80's or something as the look and feel of the cars is so dated.

Quote from Glenn67 :

This reminds me about a particular thread on AC and button clutch macros

Just to be clear - my preference is for as much adjustability as possible - heck I'd love more options - even the ability to design a car from scratch (including aero, suspension and engine packages - heck why not even rubber compounds I'd be in my element ) but I do also want to see setup restrictions to be possible to be set from the server and the ability for servers to distribute a default set for that server to drivers that are joining the server for the first time. That's because I'd really really like to see spec racing

Thats something I do agree with. The servers being able to lock setups for a perticular series would be good for series every now and then. add something different to it.

I don't get it Ages ago when I looked on these forums, everyone thought being able to make setups was one of the greatest parts of this game. Everyone must be getting lazy or something to now think it should be locked. I don't understand how making it more limited can make it more fun? Just sounds like there are to many people all pi$$y because they don't have good sets and don't practice enough. 2nd rant for today over.
Have a good xmas!

Just out of curiosity, can servers disable ABS for the series races? Thats such a big part of the game that it would be abit dumb to use it in proper races.

It is a safety feature so people do not lock the brakes and die. We arent going to die from an LFS crash so I don't see the need for ABS. Sorry, but its just the dumbest idea I have seen in this game and I don't understand at all why they wasted time on it.