Yeah, the LFS team uses MSN to contact EVERYONE individually and tell them there's a bug.

Hahaha. The stupidity of some people is rather humorous.

Quote from Takumi_Project.d :

whether the wheel clicks or not its still digital..

Yes, but it can still act like an anologue if done right.

Quote from AndroidXP :

The input from the mousewheel is always digital (clicky) and not analogue anyway.

Flight Simulator X has a system that uses the mousewheel for throttle in the exact manner in which I'm stating. With good coding and tweaking I'm sure it's possible.

However, the entire point of my topic, is the fact that you can get REAL control over your car. Not just clicks, like 10, 20, 30, 40% .etc with a click wheel. However, would be better than nothing.

+1.

I would love to see some fog and rain

Thats why it would be good if there were many ways to configure and use it.

EDIT: A mousewheel that "clicks" as you roll it wouldn't be so great IMO. I forgot older mousewheels do that. Mine is perfectly smooth.

Last edited by Tekspdy, Mon, 17 Sep 2007 05:16.

I'm curious, are the people that are voting "no" to this, using a joystick/wheel?

How could an option like this hurt anything? It would give better precision to drifting, and taking normal race turns with ease for the mouse people.

Scroll wheels are also made in keyboards, you could use those.

Not practical? How practical is it to be limited to "stop and go"?

This would be an option, I'm not asking to change the way it is, just an addition for those who like the idea.

Let's say some unfortunate fellow like myself doesn't have a joystick or a wheel. I use the mouse. Now how would someone like me with the mouse, stay at a constant 50mph? Well, I'd tap the mouse over and over and over.

What could be done to give more precise control?

The mousewheel.

Make it so the mousewheel acts as a pedal. Moving the mousewheel up a certain amount increases acceleration. Move it to the max (maybe a whole flick) and it simulates full throttle.

Same could be done for braking, could be incorporated so that the mousewheel fully controls accel/braking.

Look at this picture here:


I have a scroll wheel on my keyboard too, wouldn't have to flick on my mouse, so I could have perfect control of the car while accelerating in the left hand and steering with the right.

What do you think?

Last edited by Tekspdy, Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:53.

Quote from himself :

I think the gauges should be redesigned. They look dull and boring currently.
+1

The whole dashboard should be remade for nearly all the vehicles IMO.

Completely agree with this.

Well, guess the minority doesn't count then? Perhaps not, but the offer is still there, I could design and build this track, not like it would take much time at all from the dev's to brief me on how to properly group/lod the track .etc.

I don't care about being a dev or anything, just want a "fun" track like the one that's already there just less flat and more sophisticated.

Tis all.

Quote from Bob Smith :

Also, what,s so exciting about a massive straight where you can get the car up to top speed?

Not exciting at all of course, we could just have a top speed-o meter to calculate instead.

lol.

Sometimes I don't understand how some people cannot get a simple point understood. I thought my sarcasm would kind of bump you in the right direction. LFS is a driving simulator, not a text-based racing game. Yes, it would be handy to have tools that told you top speeds .etc. Though is it really fun? Perhaps maybe YOU find it boring to floor it and hear the wind, the engine pushing against it for a whole minute, the gears changing .etc though have you considered, that a great deal of people would like that?

I assume if you watched the top gear episode with the Veyron on the high speed coarse, you'd probably be yawning from boredom, sucks to be you?

Quote from amp88 :

check Bob Smith's setup program, it's supposedly very accurate.

That sounds SO exciting... Someone should code a program that tells you lap times with certain setups, I assume that would be good fun eh?

EDIT: Found a good text-based driving game you may like: http://www.ashracing.com/

Last edited by Tekspdy, Sat, 2 Jun 2007 06:30.

Has anyone here seen the episode of (something) where an English woman takes a really old Mercedes diesel, and tests its durability .etc .etc. She takes it on a special road track which "ages" the vehicle, different series of bumps, and other odd obstacles.

Then if you note in Top Gear, they test out the Bugatti Veyron on the "secret road course" which is extremely long, long enough to test the top speed of the Veyron, and oodles of space to spare.

Some may say "What's the point of a track like that, you only have short length tracks with no horrible bumps." The point is, why limit the dev's amazing physics system to a flat road, or at most, the blackwood rallycross with that big hump?

I don't know, I've been going nuts to see something like that.

Well, I know people have wanted one for a really long time, there have been posts made before, and one by myself.

I don't know how busy you developers get, though I have 7+ years of 3D Max/Photoshop under my belt, and was wondering, could I make one? Of course it would have to be "approved" though I'm willing to take whatever steps are necessary. You guys have an amazing physics system with the vehicles, to be able to test it out further for me has been a dream ever since I started to play LFS.

Just my 2 cents, if I'm wandering in a pointless direction just say so, thanks.

EDIT: Oh yes, this would be free of course I don't charge for my work. (just in case someone asks)

I love LFS physics...

I mean, I really really do.

I feel sad that it's limited to sports cars...

I mean, wouldnt it be great to take a proper SUV out on a more bumpy rallycross track?

I wish LFS had more racing styles, the physics are too amazing to keep on sports cars alone. No other game can offer nearly as advanced physics as LFS has. I'm not saying sports cars are bad, but tell me one game where you have physics realism of this magnitude. I think it needs to spread to other classes of vehicles.

I simply cannot do proper speed setups with this quarter mile....

Does anyone know if the devs are going to make like a 5 mile long test track, or a long oval, anything? Any tweaks available? Anything?

I get pretty bored on a day to day basis and I like to tweak cars in LFS, either properly, or with LFS tweak, but I need a runway! I've been watching too much Top Gear and the recent episode with the Bugatti Veyron is making me go crazy, I must duplicate something fun like that!

*cry*

Where can I get the mod for the LFS servers that tells your drift PB. Also, can I use it in singleplayer?

since my friends dont have a mouse with more than two buttons, what can they use to press that doesnt make that anoying boop.....boopboopboopboopboopboopboopboop noise.

thanks.

EDIT: I mean over Ventrilo or Teamspeak, we like to use push to talk and need a non-annoying button, that when pressed, does not make that wierd noise.

I have a stupid HP computer, no sound card :P

I have a old wheel and pedal set for like windows 95. it has the old joystick plugin port, and my computer doesnt even have that plugin.

Is there any adapters that i can put on the end to make it a USB, or do something to where I can use it?

Open ports 63392 and 29339 on your router if you use one. I couldn't host my own games till I opened those. Could help you join games too.

Your eye will notice differences in FPS from 0-30. Anything beyond 30FPS will look exactly the same (Running smooth). Although some video cards have faults, and with high FPS you may notice the game go into fast forward every now and then. I would recommend you use Vsync. It's possible the game is running the same, and your FPS is lower. Just because your FPS is lower, does not mean your game is running half the speed.

0-29FPS = Lag
30+ = Realtime

What an amazing damage engine! Didn't we see that kind of damage BACK IN GTA3???

lol, had to add that :P

I was curious if the devs of LFS plan on re-making the 3d interior models. At the moment they are very low polygon, and have shading/texture issues.