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Skydiver173
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Great racing all... enjoyed watching

Congrats Seb
Skydiver173
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Enjoying the race but someones microphone is too loud, and your 'P's are popping...

Have fun guys...
Skydiver173
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Quote from dekojester :
5. A Driver's Guide: Jeff Garry (Skydiver173) wrote this prior to last year's running, and it holds true still. You'd all be well advised to read it...

awww, shucks.... you remembered!
Hope you all have a SAFE, FUN race! I hope to be able to watch it, if it's being broadcasted live this year. Good luck to all of you!

HUGZ!
Skydiver173
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http://www.2shared.com/file/10 ... f8ef92/Dystonia_350_.html

Try this link... WAY down at the bottom, click the 'click here' link.
Skydiver173
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Thanks! Looking forward to it! Bare with me as I relearn how to drive lol.
Skydiver173
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Yuppers! agree with both you guys. AW did a great job for a first big event. Keep it up! I'm looking forward to another!
Skydiver173
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Quote from Ori :Actually wanted to wait with this until end of CART season but now the attention is better:

How about a purely oval series?

I don't understad why there has been none until now - or have i missed anything?

+1
Skydiver173
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Definately.

Race #1
- FZR
- 173 J. Garry
- Fragmaster

Any restriction on tires?
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Skydiver173
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Quote from TexasLTU :IIRC, car 173 was crashed away, and in result, huge pileup after T2.
Question: Who caused that crash?

I wasn't 'crashed away'. The only person who hit me was Buck... but he hit everyone.
He hitting me didn't effect anyone else but me.
Skydiver173
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Agree, to all NDR, great job. I'm sure you all put in a huge amount of time to put this together, and it's much appreciated (at least from me, even though I lost connection, lol).

BUT (always a 'but')... Next year, I think the rules to join such a huge even have really need to be reviewed and overhauled. For me, it was a good race but for others, well... it's too bad Deko is AFK on vent to hear what we are discussing.

Anyway, great job NDR! Well done!
Skydiver173
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Quote from Kid222 :I have only one question... will i get ANY points for this shit??? Bacause i am really pissed now, 250 laps done and DNF for THIS....

Kid222
Please tell us what was going through your mind during lap 127-128 (1:37:40.00) and lap 129 (1:39:50.00).
Skydiver173
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Quote from CSF :Me doubts this will last...14 hours... but I am not racing, I just get to judge y'all... mwhahahahahahhahahahaha...


I will have a 1l bottle of Jagermeister ready for a party after the 500... hmm tempting...

Jagermeister.... mmmmmmm!!!
Skydiver173
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Quote from FM-Failure :Do NOT use pitspotter !
Nobody will give a damn when you say "but spotter said i was clear!!!".

exactly... no excuses for putting someone out of the race.
Pitspotter is NEVER, ever, ever to be trusted on the oval.
Skydiver173
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Quote from LFSn00b :All I hope is to have a proper race and clean as possible. Also read - http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=58779


Practising with pitspotter makes it really easy for me to drive closely to others now so I won't fall out on same mistakes I did on practise sessions.

I really don't recommend pit spotter in a race like this, but you can try it. Always try it in a large field before coming to the race, because pitspotter may actually annoy the hell out of you with so many cars around.

Your best bet... set steering buttons for viewing left and right, EVEN IF you have only 2 buttons (you G25 users). Get used to using your own instinks to drive. Use the force!

You'll become a much better and safer driver.
Skydiver173
S2 licensed
Quote from h3adbang3r :I would recommend that everyone installs LFSRelax and uses the Pitspotter feature. 3 wide racing on an oval with no spotter to help you know who's next to you is a tedious job. Lighten the mental load up on yourself by using the PitSpotter.

Actually, I don't recommend it because it doesn't always work correctly. The idea is to learn to drive by yourself and to be dependent on your own senses.

...but to each, his own.
A Drivers Guide
Skydiver173
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The Drivers Guide to Safe Oval Racing

It's essential to have everything you need to go racing when the green flag waves. Preperation is not just about making sure you are in your seat and have your steering wheel in hand. It's more about those little things that people often forget about. It's those little things that can often make-or-break a driver.

1: Be prepard
A) Physical Preperation:
The night before the big day, eat a good meal and make sure you get to sleep early. Make sure you are well rested. It's not recommend to go out drinking the night before and come to the track sleepy or hungover. A sleepy or hungover driver is a dangerous driver. Make sure you come to the track feeling refreshed and ready to go. The day of the race, eat a small meal for breakfast, and be sure to use the bathroom (toilet) before the event. 500 miles is a long way and it can last for many, many hours. You must be ready for the long journey ahead of you.

B) Mental Preperation:
The day of the race, stay at home and mentally prepare for the big day. It's not wise to go play your favorite sport for a few hours (be it football, basketball, or bike riding for 20km) then come to the track with your adrenaline levels high. Save the high levels of adrenaline for the track. The human body can only produce so much, so don't waist it all before the race. Stay focused on the job at hand, and be ready to put yourself into what I call 'The Zone'. 'The Zone' will allow you to block out everything except the task at hand...racing!

2: Race Day
A) Distractions:
Be sure to tell your families and friends of the big event! I'm sure they will all be rooting for
you, but the last thing you want is a phone call (on lap 80) with your buddy asking, "So, how's it going so far???". Turn off or unplug the damn the phone, put your pets away, maybe place a big sign on the door that reads "DO NOT DISTURB!". In real racing, the slightest distraction can have dire consequences. Try to treat this the same way. Be alert and focused at all times because anyting can happen. Also, turn off that music! Although some will argue with me about this, you MUST be able to hear the track, the tires, the cars, the engine, the wind, the crazy race director... everything! How can you concentrate on the race if you have Sir Mix-A-Lots' "Baby Got Back" blaring in your ear?

B) More Preperation:
Make sure your computer is ready to go. Reboot your modem, routers, switches, and computers. Make sure that ONLY the programs you need to race are running. Do NOT use MSN, Yahoo, or any chat programs. Make sure you're not downloading anything and that YOU are the only one using a computer on a home network. Just to be safe, Unplug all the other computers on the network. Excessive bandwidth use can cause you to lag and crash others, or worse, to time-out then your race is done. You don't want that, do you? Remember, the Race Director can 'Black-Flag' you for a high ping. I'm sure you don't want that to happen.

If the room temperature is going to be hot, turn on your air conditioner. Have a fan circulate the air in your room. Also be sure to have a fan for yourself and a very comfortable seat. If there are many cautions, the race can take 4 or more hours. Have everything you need within arms reach (a drink, a small snack, cigarettes, etc.) Think about what you will need and have it ready before you arrive at the track. maybe even something to pee in... seriously! What if you gotta go? Are you going to park in pitlane and run to the toilet?

C) At The Track:
Plan to Arrive and ready to race one hour early. Discuss with teammates the plan. Relax but be prepared. Discussions should be kept to a minumum. Any discussions should be race-related. No one wants to hear about how your cat puked up a huge hairball. Use the time to put youself in 'The Zone'. Personally, I prefer silence. It gives me time to put myself into 'The Zone'.

3: The Race!
A) The car:
At this point your car is tuned up. Your setup is ready to run for 500 miles. There should be no question about whether it's going to last (or not). There has been many months to prepare for this and any racer will tell you, it takes a while to get any car ready for such an event. You've got to know the car like it's part of your body. It's an extention of you. The car is a "well oiled" machine and must be properly tweaked to get the most out of it (before and during the race).

B) The Driver:
As discussed earlier, be prepared. Once on the track, anything can happen. Are you going to be ready? How's your vision? Can you see? ...I don't mean directly in front of you. Oval Racing requires that you have 4 eyes (one in front, one in back, and one on each side of your head.) You do look to the sides, yes? How about mirrors? Are they adjusted properly? You do use mirrors, i hope? If you can't see all around you, that's not a good thing. I wont go into it here, but I am sure you can figure out why being able to see all around you is so important. Afterall, you are a race car driver and should already know the answer.

C) On The Track:
This is probably the touchiest subject to talk about. Everyone has their own 'style' of racing. Just like music, everyone does it their own way. The only advice I can say is be safe and drive predictably. Don't take unnecessary chances when you can achieved the same thing in a safer manner a few hundred meters down the track. Make sure YOU are in control of the car and that the car is NOT controlling you. Think, then act. One thing that must be discussed is drafting. Everyone knows what it does and how it works, but the question you must ask yourself BEFORE taking the draft of the car ahead is, "Is it clear to get behind him, or will I hit someone already in his draft?". (see what I wrote about vision, above.)

Anyway, enough of my babbling. I recommend everyone reread the rule book one more time. There are 30 drivers starting on the grid and I'd love to see all 30 pass the finish line. Please drive safe, carefully, and patiently. I know you will do great!

[FM]^JeffyG (skydiver173)


P.S. If you can add to this, feel free but keep it on topic. Good Luck to all!
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Skydiver173
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Quote from z-ro 8 :i think this aplies to more than just racing............lol.

yup, agree...


Quote from z-ro 8 :
good luck all. it's gonna be a fight to see who finishes behind jeffyg.

Not really. Anyone can win. It's like the game of chess... think ahead 3 steps then make your move. The key is to think first, then act.

Like I told Deko in my short Bio i sent him from this thread, I really don't care if I win and I am not expecting to. I'm just glad to be a part of it, and my goal is to be a top 5 finisher. I'll be happy with that.


Quote from h3adbang3r :Did you not see me and Wild wipe the floor with the FM guys on the final practice session?

...and that's the spirt I want to see from everyone! Just do it carefully and wisely.
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Skydiver173
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Quote from dekojester :

...don't screw it up on race day. Race is 270 laps long, and to win it, you gotta be in it.

d

Again, well said Deko.

Remember drivers, you never win on the first lap. There will be 268 laps to work out your strategy. At the start (especially 3-cars wide) is a time of safety first! Once the field thins out, then (and ONLY then) should you start thinking about making your moves.

I would feel quite bad if I took out a few cars because I placed my car in a position that caused a major wreck. Most of the time, you can accomplish the same thing just by waiting instead of sticking your nose where it does not belong.

Good Luck to all of you!
Skydiver173
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At least I can stop taking my pepto-bismo.

Well done 88
Skydiver173
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Quote from dekojester :Hello racers !

It's almost time for qualifying....

If you cannot make it for any reason during either of these two windows, please let me know via PM ONLY, BEFORE the CONCLUSION OF BUMP DAY. If you do this, "I will be willing to offer you a private run between Monday and Wednesday" before the race. I prefer not to do this, however. Please try to make it if possible on one or both of those two days.

Deko,

I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass, but I (and any other driver qualifying the Kyoto 500) should have the right to spectate and witness these 'private sessions', correct? Afterall, as one of the racers, I feel a ton of pressure on my shoulders having to run my qualifying session in front of 35 other people. I believe that these people should also feel the pressure.

Also, are we allowed to 'bump' these people should we feel that we could do better? I guess I'm a bit confused because the qualifying session is a race in itself. Afterall, during qualifying day, we are all racing against each other to make the best time. How can can we race against people who are not there?

I would like to be a witness to these sessions. Please post time and date that they will occur so those who choose, can be there. Afterall, During the Indy500 qualifying, they don't make special days for those that can't make it... either you're in, or not... simple.

Looks like the rulebook needs tweaking a bit, huh?
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Skydiver173
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Quote from AstroBoy :Had alot of fun that race, i thought i was out of it, but 302 and I worked together and worked well, i really enjoyed that. 777 I think you need to work on your 3 car drafting.
Hehe and how about that close drafting at the end ey 129 :P

watching the replay and you're improving by the day since our talk.
Well done...
Skydiver173
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Quote from dekojester :Okay, I'm getting sick of this arguing in this thread. This thread is for YOUR PROTESTS and MY RESPONSE ONLY. Arguing about it is not allowed. No wonder I haven't been able to go through all incidents, this thread has so much crap in it I can't make heads or tails. It needs a "haircut".

Ori and Jeffy, I suggest you two calm down and don't take anything personally. It's a flippin' game, ffs. Enjoy it, but take it seriously enough to not make a mess of it.

d

Skydiver173
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Quote from Ori :blah blah blah...

Check replays, SON. I have no issues with you personally. We've raced many times together, but there are rules to the KY500 and I want everyone to have a fair chance.

During a restart, all cars are to start in a straight line, one behind another UNTIL the green flag waives. This goes for all drivers, not just you. The concrete evidence you need is in the replays. The only reason I brought this up is because of my first practice session when you passed me BEFORE the green waived, so now I look for a pattern and I've found one.

Gamepad, wheel, or mouse...if you can not follow the rules, then stay home. This goes for all drivers.

BTW, i dont give a damn about your racing experience. I also have a huge racing background and I'm much, MUCH older than you think. That has nothing to do with the Kyoto500 and you should know that. Please keep assumptions to yourself.

assume:
Ass-u-me = making an ass out of you and me. You want to talk? Meet me on vent and we'll talk. You're not the only one i've gone through this with.
Skydiver173
S2 licensed
Complaint (not so much a protest):

Session 16: (...and nearly every session)
80 O. Avdimetaj - consistant Improper restarts

Constantly trying to 'jump the gun" (leaving a gap between him and driver ahead):
- lap 12
- lap 14
- lap 21

Not in proper formation (in-line):
-lap 46

Improper pit enterance:
- lap 14

Please watch for ANY driver that does this.
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