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unlock Details - last ip address.
I would like to see more detail of the last unlock, like date & time, and what IP address it used. as last unlock last time, so it hasnt been hacked or not or something like that.

good idea yes or no?
Quote from vrooom :I would like to see more detail of the last unlock, like date & time, and what IP address it used. as last unlock last time, so it hasnt been hacked or not or something like that.

I like the idea of seeing a few more details; last unlock date - time is a good idea. I'm not sure how relevant IP address is.

Infact, I'm solid against that idea.
Ip-address thing can be useful to people with static ip address. Might as well to add, as its easy to get log. more the detail the better the information
Good idea I reckon. Similar to what online banks do - when you log into Natwest it shows the last day/time you logged in, so you know if someones been snooping around your account or not.
I'm all for the date-time information, but...
Quote from vrooom :Ip-address thing can be useful to people with static ip address. Might as well to add, as its easy to get log. more the detail the better the information

IANAL, but by giving a person the "private" (and I use private loosely) information (i.e. IP address in this instance) on someone who has stolen your license details, then you can argue that the people who make this information available (i.e. the development team), are liable for any damage.

I'll admit that theres probably something flawed there, but consider the following:
* How many people who race know their IP address of the top of their heads?
* How many people know what an IP address is?
* How many people would care?
* How often do we actually hear of license details being stolen?
* What would be the liability (above case) of the LFS team?
* Is presenting such information against the DPA (Data Protection Acts)? (I honestly don't know anymore..)
IP is public information. Every data packet you transmit on the internet is stamped with it, therefore, when you go on the internet you are giving it to your destination computer and everybody inbetween. As it is you giving out this information, it is public domain.

Last login time would be hugely useful for detecting 'my brother used my account' offences...
Not sure about IP, last login makes more sense to me. Anyways, More implication of LFS itself with LFS World could be a good idea, a setup repository for example, or showing random info at the menu screen with the player name (Kms online, # of races...) and I'm only saying some of them, there are lot's of things to do
Bad analogies aside...
Quote from Becky Rose :IP is public information. Every data packet you transmit on the internet is stamped with it, therefore, when you go on the internet you are giving it to your destination computer and everybody inbetween. As it is you giving out this information, it is public domain.

I can park my car outside on the street. It doesn't mean any ****er should just come along and write down my registration number, trace that backwards, and start harassing me? Yes its freely available if you know what you're doing, but... oh I give up.
Quote from the_angry_angel :Bad analogies aside...
I can park my car outside on the street. It doesn't mean any ****er should just come along and write down my registration number, trace that backwards, and start harassing me? Yes its freely available if you know what you're doing, but... oh I give up.

too keep the bad anaology going ... if youre in a privat parking space or some other restriced area he has every right to scribble down your plate and get your car towed

to get back to lfs a licensed user should have the right to take legal action against somebody hacking his account ... and an ip plus a timestamp would be the most important bit of info in this
I was always under the impression everything on the internet is considered to be in the public domain.
Quote from Shotglass :to get back to lfs a licensed user should have the right to take legal action against somebody hacking his account ... and an ip plus a timestamp would be the most important bit of info in this

I have no problem with this, but what I have a problem with is the behaviour some people may take with this sort of information.

With a car you can have it impounded etc. With an IP address, you can exact revenge on things that have bound to that address. Be it a router or a PC. Someone angry enough might try some script kiddie tactics on that address before even considering the options;
1. this maybe a dynamic address which was recently released and then picked up by someone else
2. the IP address may have been spoofed
3. shared internet connection etc. blah.. Get the idea?

My point is that when it comes down to it with a car, you generally aren't the one who may give out the punishment and you'll inform the relevant people. If you take an axe to that car, then you're in the shit with the relevant authorities. Most people will understand that. However something most people don't see in the same manner, is a computer at the other end of the internet. "Its not physical, you can't see it. **** it. I don't care" is the mentality.

To make it perfectly clear, I know and fully understand that IP addresses are not difficult to get ahold of. I have no problem with my IP address being logged on various systems. What I am trying to make perfectly clear is that providing that data (in correlation to accessing the master server), which otherwise you would not have easy access to, is a mistake.

If, for whatever reason, legal action is required then it should only be divulged by the development team. In my humble ****ing opinion.
I'd see it more like installing a video camera in your house, so that you can identify burglars.
The content that the video camera records _is your own property_. As soon as someone decides to infringe upon that, he lost his right to privacy concerning his identity at that time.

I'll add the unlock dates anyway (tomorrow) - will think about ip. In the end, like TAA mentioned earlier, it's not really very often an account is abused. Unlock dates alone would already indicate this. Besides, I'm curious about what one would do with an IP of an abuser. Tell the police? Like they care about that. 'Feds, you really gotta catch this guy in china who got a hold of my LFS account details. Here is his IP.' - 'eh, say what now?'

edit - but yeah, your analogies were more about ip's in the public domain rather than recording your own only.
Quote from Victor :Besides, I'm curious about what one would do with an IP of an abuser. Tell the police? Like they care about that. 'Feds, you really gotta catch this guy in china who got a hold of my LFS account details. Here is his IP.' - 'eh, say what now?'

if you can somehow get a name to go with that ip id go the usual way and hire a lawyer who then tries to extort a ridiculous amount of money for writing a single a4 page of paper ... same thing that been done to p2p users, scanners and strobuilders for years now
cause as much annoyance to the guy as possible
Unlock date is useful, but Victor, is it possible to report when the account was last used? That'd help spot those evil axe murderer's who come on our own install of LFS to wreck whilst we are out at work .

tbh: IP is only useful when the ISP is co-operative. I was the target of a hate campaign by a former LFS forum goer and wrote to his ISP - and those foxtrot bravo's said he had the right to free speach, I pointed out the limitations of the 4th ammendment, just to have them say, "So, you're British. It doesn't apply to you.". They where really very rude and prejudice, I found it very dissapointing that a company from a supposedly developed nation would act like that.

Then again, buying some hosting from a firm over in that nation recently I had to send a brass rubbing of my credit card by fax... And i'm only marginally exagerating ! lol...

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