The online racing simulator
Too Many Servers?
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#26 - Gunn
Quote from Racer Y :Gunn, You can probably get away with as high as 230... I've played on the optus servers and the Pacifica servers and sometimes they get that high of a ping, but there's really not any noticeable lag issues.
I don't filter the server list by car type. Besides, when I go online, I usually don't have any idea what car I wanna use. Well I prefer the RAC, but servers that offer that are few and far between.
LOL most of ther servers are GTR and for a change of pace you can join a GTR server. And when you get bored with that, there's always a GTR server to change things up with

300 is playable in some cases and in S1 I even used to join a few mates at 400. But I grow tired of lag every time someone pits or joins so I am looking closer to home these days.
Only 68 players online atm... man this game seems to have lost its fanbase?
I haven't played it for a few months, little dissapointed last night to only find 2 servers with a handful of players in them
#28 - Gunn
Quote from Coopz :Only 68 players online atm... man this game seems to have lost its fanbase?
I haven't played it for a few months, little dissapointed last night to only find 2 servers with a handful of players in them

That's funny, I played most of the night with several racers and was kept busy until 3 am.
Seem to be a good number of servers whenever I go on in the evening, normally a few full servers and a server with over 10 racers for each car class every night and normally only 2 populated oval servers. With the smaller numbers and more oval servers I guess there isn't much variety at other times?
"All cars" servers are really not helping LFS! What is that?! Isn't it better to have only GTR's, or only XFG, XRG, XRGT, and so on.. I don't know why GTI is so unpopular online? I had some GREAT runs the other day, with 6, 7 people running GTI at Aston club or cadet, don't remember.. I would really like to see these ALL CARS servers turning into one class servers..
Quote from Coopz :Only 68 players online atm... man this game seems to have lost its fanbase?
I haven't played it for a few months, little dissapointed last night to only find 2 servers with a handful of players in them

Yeah, the fanbase has dwindled down to a very small amount at our timezone mind you... The game 'explodes' of players online in European timezones, just look at the online graph. The lowest point of players is around North American times, then it slowly rises up with a few Aussies here and there... then the Europeans start to play... then back down it goes... it is just a never ending rollercoaster.

Seriously now, North America REALLY needs to get the ball rollin' on playing online and mentioning the game to people. I also think a lot more NA magazines and game review columns should focus on LFS. With no word about it over here, it is just the same ol' people playing online and getting bored. If I ever race online, it has to be either during lunch time/midday or very late in the evening past noon.

Also, if you see 1 person in a server (like 1/16 players), JOIN IT! Don't just join servers that have tons of people in it. People DO join servers that have a few people in them, then they start to grow. It is just a matter of patience and staying in the server while waiting for people to join up.
Quote from Gunn :Sorting by connection speed would be the handiest filter of all.

couldn't agree more.

here in Malaysia we tend to lag at most of the servers, we get best pings from the nearby countries, namely Australia. but for most of the other european or US servers, I'd be lagging quite much.

It's painful when you can't even have a decent driving fun with your best buddies at Poland, or in the US.
Quote from StanleyCarter :couldn't agree more.

here in Malaysia we tend to lag at most of the servers, we get best pings from the nearby countries, namely Australia. but for most of the other european or US servers, I'd be lagging quite much.

It's painful when you can't even have a decent driving fun with your best buddies at Poland, or in the US.

at least you've got Alex Yoong
Quote from Coopz :Only 68 players online atm... man this game seems to have lost its fanbase?
I haven't played it for a few months, little dissapointed last night to only find 2 servers with a handful of players in them

And on a side note. Normally when we get patches for the game, the amount of players online kicks back up again. It takes about 2 months for our playing to die down (as we can see), because we don't have a patch. If we had a patch right now that fixes the main problems, everyone would be very happy and be playing online... something new to try. But as we see now... it doesn't look like a crucial fixer-upper patch is coming :Kick_Can_

I know we waited long enough before S2 was released... S1 started to get boring because there were no patches in that dead-period either. I'd start to get worried if we went on another month here without a patch... :faint:
Just a quick bitch about 2 Aussie servers that run in the evening here; Optusnet#1 and Optusnet#2. In the Aussie evenings, there aren't a huge ammount of populated servers as it is, let alone a variety.

Here is what they were running last night.

Optusnet#1 - BLGP Track - FOX
Optusnet#2 - BLGP Track - FOX/FO8
Each server was about 1/3 full when I was online.

I understand that FOX racing is popular, but there is absolutely no need to have both servers running virtually the same thing when they're less than half full. I'm sure there would have been at leat a dozen or so other racers online at the time who would have preferred something different.

I went and watched telly instead
Mention something over here in the LFS section as many of the blokes there have admin for the Optus Servers. I can see the frustration in that, however, currently the AAL is holding a FOX league so that could be part reason to the mostly FOX servers. Are their only two Optus servers? I forget been ages since I last looked.
Quote from Rotary :Mention something over here in the LFS section as many of the blokes there have admin for the Optus Servers. I can see the frustration in that, however, currently the AAL is holding a FOX league so that could be part reason to the mostly FOX servers. Are their only two Optus servers? I forget been ages since I last looked.

Thanks, I might do that.
I was only looking at populated servers, so there might be more than 2 overall. I'll check out the empty ones tonight to see if there's some variety there.

Cheers.
Quote from Boris Lozac :"All cars" servers are really not helping LFS!
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That's true! Sometimes I've only 1 hour for playing LFS and it took me over 1/2h to find server with TBO coz most of servers are "all cars" and I must find out what cars people have. And when I finally find adequate server, after 5 minutes join someone with FV8 (coz it's not restricted) and spoil race...
Result is that sometimes instead going online I hotlaping or doing something different than playing LFS.
Quote from speedfreak227 :at least you've got Alex Yoong

what does he has to do with server? or connection issue? or even LFS?

if only he plays LFS as well... lol

anyways, I usually find the most players online during the weekends, if I play LFS early morning, I'll be meeting up with players mostly from the US, during afternoon or early evening, some of the australian servers could be packed as well.
Quote from J.B. :Having the option of fixed setups, which would be easy, drivable setups, would encourage people more to use a greater variety of track/car combos. Maybe this would help to get people on the empty servers.

When I look for a race, I always look for a car track combo that I know well and have a setup for. If already having a setup wasn't an issue, the amount of servers I could choose from would be much higher and I wouldn't end up on the same combos all the time..

Good point,the game gets very samey and dare I say it boring,with the same cars/tracks all the time.I've gone from playing every night, to 1-2 times a week.

This would make quite a big change,but quite a ballsy one if the devs done it.
Quote from Coopz :Only 68 players online atm... man this game seems to have lost its fanbase?
I haven't played it for a few months, little dissapointed last night to only find 2 servers with a handful of players in them

please remember that some people have to sleep at night, so there may not be as many people on during odd hours (primarily in N/A and europe
There needs to be "block all cars server" option. I play in north america but i have to join right after i get home from school to have a decent number of people online. More varied servers would be nice, I have driven some nice reverse tracks.
#43 - Gunn
Quote from farcar :Just a quick bitch about 2 Aussie servers that run in the evening here; Optusnet#1 and Optusnet#2. In the Aussie evenings, there aren't a huge ammount of populated servers as it is, let alone a variety.

Here is what they were running last night.

Optusnet#1 - BLGP Track - FOX
Optusnet#2 - BLGP Track - FOX/FO8
Each server was about 1/3 full when I was online.

I understand that FOX racing is popular, but there is absolutely no need to have both servers running virtually the same thing when they're less than half full. I'm sure there would have been at leat a dozen or so other racers online at the time who would have preferred something different.

I went and watched telly instead

You could go to the Optus Games Forum and track down wabz, he is usually quite helpful and willing to listen to suggestions.
Quote from Tweaker :And on a side note. Normally when we get patches for the game, the amount of players online kicks back up again. It takes about 2 months for our playing to die down (as we can see), because we don't have a patch. If we had a patch right now that fixes the main problems, everyone would be very happy and be playing online... something new to try. But as we see now... it doesn't look like a crucial fixer-upper patch is coming :Kick_Can_

I know we waited long enough before S2 was released... S1 started to get boring because there were no patches in that dead-period either. I'd start to get worried if we went on another month here without a patch... :faint:

ROFL sounds like you've got a patch (drug) problem m8, seriously is there a rehab centre for lfs patch adicts in the USA
Well I fully support the fact that people play this game actively, and right now, it just seems like it is losing interest to some people. You'd hate to see people rarely playing your favorite online wouldn't you? Seriously, the only thing I see that can change all of this is to have a patch or something that gets people back online. North America and Australia are the lowest points on the online graph, and I used to see more than we have now playing online.

Just remember when S2 was released, playing online / choosing a server was great, loads of people playing and it lasted for several weeks. It just feels like some things have changed with people's opinions or it is influence from other games.
Quote from spoop :There needs to be "block all cars server" option. I play in north america but i have to join right after i get home from school to have a decent number of people online. More varied servers would be nice, I have driven some nice reverse tracks.

IIRC you can "block" all car servers by filtering out servers with an exotic car you don't want to drive anyways. So usually filtering out the MRT5 (a pity somehow) will filter out all servers running it, including the "all cars" servers. and as this car is rarely mixed with other cars/classes, there are neraly no other servers locked out.
Then again, it often helps to filter out empty servers. Then the percentage of "all cars" servers is very small.

EDIT: And concerning the player-gaps in NA and AUS: Perhapswith the patch to support japanese, the pacific-gap will be somewhat filled. Hopefully.
You know there are a lot of things that are different playing now days as compared to last year. It was laid back, and it was fun. Everyone knew each other. There was rarely any massive restarting and very few instances of banning or kicking.
When the S-2 version came out all that went out the window. the moment the
Alpha version was released, Hordes of people familiar with Console type games
entered with their keyboards and mouses, ready to spin out and blame others at a moment's notice. Thankfully, most of those types have moved on to ruin
somebody else's day. But they did manage to cause some damage while they were here. Alot of people got put off by all the wrecking, the restarts, the insults and the general F*** You attitude that was happening.

Another thing to "factor" in. There really ain't a whole lot of people interested in racing games, much less hardcore sims to begin with. So I imagine a big chunk of the people that aren't around are playing... rFactor.
If those people like that game, then they're gone. If not, they'll get bored with it after playing their money's worth of it and start showing back up.
LOL we should vote to ban them on sight for ... Sedition.

Tweak, you keep going off about needing patches..... uh... a patch foooor....? I don't see where a patch that fixed a mispelling in Romanian
would really be such a big draw to the kids in Iowa.

Or are you talking about a patch like the one that the MRT came in?
Now THAT would do something. It would also bring back alot of those
"other" types too.

I would say that if the devs are serious about pushing this game. I mean REALLY pushing it, they ought to at least hire on a Marketing Consultant....
But when you look at the fact LFS is made for a Niche market and that
the overall method of purchase and delivery of the product is strictly
online only, that would really be just a waste of money.

What could be done though is the Devs breaking down and buying a full page ad (can you get a 1/2 page?) in PC Gamer. Yes, an ad. Not to wait for somebody to come along and review it. If enough interest is generated from the ad, then a review will eventually happen.

My advice for ad placement would be for March. That would be
about the time the average gamer is getting burnt out on whatever
they got for X-mas and looking for something else. And that's also the
time tax refund checks start appearing here in the US.

I dunno... just a thought
No a patch to fix the most common and obvious issues in the game......... specifically these issues:

-Raised nose/aero bug specifically
-Almost complete Aero loss while in a turn

Because of this, racing close to each other is just not fun or possible even.

-Car balancing
-Cars with very snappy oversteer (like the RA, everyone was dying to drive this car, until they drove it...)

Of course a patch with a new car or addition would get people playing... but that is far too much for ask for. I want the racing online to be more enjoyable with the race cars... which is why I have been racing on almost all road car servers nowadays.

But you see what I mean?
Quote from Racer Y :What could be done though is the Devs breaking down and buying a full page ad (can you get a 1/2 page?) in PC Gamer. Yes, an ad. Not to wait for somebody to come along and review it. If enough interest is generated from the ad, then a review will eventually happen.

My advice for ad placement would be for March. That would be
about the time the average gamer is getting burnt out on whatever
they got for X-mas and looking for something else. And that's also the
time tax refund checks start appearing here in the US.

I'd be more inclined to get the game reviewed more. From my powers of deduction, the game is good and should get good reviews. Good reviews are free advertising. I see game reviews as a solution to the no doubt prohibitive cost of advertising.

I'm not sure what the procedure if for getting IGN for example to review the game is, or if they've already been approached, or if the game has already been widely reviewed and I just haven't read them. Someone else might be able to answer that.

I do see a problem however in that the game is not 'finished'. Maybe a lot of reviewers are waiting until the fulll version of S3 is out before they review. They don't realise that the game is fully functional as is it is, and that future releases/patches are what many other developers would release as sequels. Although the S1 -S3 evolution is true guage on the game's development, perhaps it is not the best thing for marketing it.

Getting back on topic, I'd like to see more LFS reviews by journos to get the game some more exposure and help fill up the servers.
Quote from Tweaker :No a patch to fix the most common and obvious issues in the game......... specifically these issues:

-Raised nose/aero bug specifically
-Almost complete Aero loss while in a turn

Because of this, racing close to each other is just not fun or possible even.

-Car balancing
-Cars with very snappy oversteer (like the RA, everyone was dying to drive this car, until they drove it...)

Of course a patch with a new car or addition would get people playing... but that is far too much for ask for. I want the racing online to be more enjoyable with the race cars... which is why I have been racing on almost all road car servers nowadays.

But you see what I mean?

I don't see how a patch with those things would really impact the online dilema to be honest. Sure those are nice things, but......

I never noticed the Areo loss on corners.been too busy trying to notice not wrecking lol
And I don't really know what you mean by car balancing, unless you mean to
make the RB4 and the FXR more competitive with their respected counter parts.
Also, as far as the RAC goes. that car is just fine. it's the set ups that come with it in the game that need work. I got two "aftermarket" set ups
one for street, one for rally and that car is a blast to use. It's still
really hard to learn, but it can be done

You mentioned only going to road car servers. Yeah, the road cars rule
But you're going there for reasons other than the issues you want patched.
You're probably going there because A) it's fun and B) certain "elements" prefer to act up in the GTR servers, mostly leaving the TBO and LRF servers alone.

I would like to see a patch that brings down the nose on the F08 and forces realistic set ups on the oval, but I still don't see it really affecting anything
as far as getting decent server populations during our time zones.

Too Many Servers?
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