hi fellow racers,

i was on stcc server today and i got my gold licence:trophy: ,i went to drive the FXO and said CUT TROTTLE ON UPSHIFT and that was ok,my first question is,is this much slower? i had to use this beacause i do not have the G25 so i couldnt use a clutch pedal,but that is were i was wrong as i messed around for awhile trying different setups i said ahh sure why not try a manual clutch,so i assigned the clutch pedal to the "0" key on the steering, and its GREAT! took abit to get use to but its worth it,
is using a manual clutch faster? also is there anyone in the same case,let me know your setup

thanks

What, you are using button clutch? Thats not manual, could be considered as cheating as it's a lot quicker than a proper clutch.

yes the "0" key on the DFP wheel its handy because there is where my thumb rests so easy to use ,try it out

Yes, check my mighty edit (was faster than the forums, yay!).

It was thought as cheating in S1 I'm sure, don't know if it's the same in S2 that you can gain some time with it.
Cheating is a strong word, but, unfair advantage maybe?

Was faster than the forums for the second time...yay!

Quote from Blackout :

Yes, check my mighty edit (was faster than the forums, yay!).

It was thought as cheating in S1 I'm sure, don't know if it's the same in S2 that you can gain some time with it.
Cheating is a strong word, but, unfair advantage maybe?

Was faster than the forums for the second time...yay!

In S1 you could set a button to do manual clutch using macros, that was cheating, button clutch is OK because it simulates the time it takes to press the pedal [etals:]

haha,is it know the be "cheating" i didnt know that

No it's not cheating. It was faster back in S1, but that has been fixed long ago. Having a H-gate shifter is still the fastest, though I hope the quite unrealistic pre-select shifting technique will be removed one day.

Quote from morcs :

In S1 you could set a button to do manual clutch using macros, that was cheating, button clutch is OK because it simulates the time it takes to press the pedal [etals:]

Hmm...was that method called as button clutching then?
Because I'm pretty sure the talk was always about button clutch, so did the people actually mean the playing with the macros? But even without macros, you could press clutch and shift up simultaneously.

Quote from 11SuLLy11 :

haha,is it know the be "cheating"

No no! I said it wasn't cheating! :talktohan:stan:

You can't do macro clutching anymore, so button clutching is fine! :Handshake

Quote from Blackout :

Hmm...was that method called as button clutching then?

I knew it as macro-clutching, bearing in mind this is 2 years back in S1 days though!

Basically the macro meant LFS thought your button was an actual analogue clutch pedal moving very fast.

ok thanks guys,i found it better,especially in the areas in trying to slow down any of ye try it ?

anyone experiment this ?

Quote from 11SuLLy11 :

hi fellow racers,

i was on stcc server today and i got my gold licence:trophy: ,i went to drive the FXO and said CUT TROTTLE ON UPSHIFT and that was ok,my first question is,is this much slower? i had to use this beacause i do not have the G25 so i couldnt use a clutch pedal,but that is were i was wrong as i messed around for awhile trying different setups i said ahh sure why not try a manual clutch,so i assigned the clutch pedal to the "0" key on the steering, and its GREAT! took abit to get use to but its worth it,
is using a manual clutch faster? also is there anyone in the same case,let me know your setup

thanks

You can just disable the aid even without clutch. All it means is that YOU have to lift off when you change gear instead of the aid doing for you.

Quote from AndroidXP :

I hope the quite unrealistic pre-select shifting technique will be removed one day.

Unrealistic and (with a seq. stick) very confusing. If you miss a shift it's hard to tell what gear you're going to select next time you dip the clutch.

Quote from Woz :

You can just disable the aid even without clutch. All it means is that YOU have to lift off when you change gear instead of the aid doing for you.

so basically set the trottle cut on upshift on and then lift off ?i don't think im getting this ,thanks

Quote from 11SuLLy11 :

so basically set the trottle cut on upshift on and then lift off ?i don't think im getting this ,thanks

No, STCC requires it off at the higher levels along with other aids.

What this aid does, when enabled, is quickly cut the throttle when you change gears to stop the revs going too high.

When the aid is off, as required by STCC, you are responsible for the lift off while you shift. I think the only aid STCC allows is clutch but I could be wrong.

Just turn off all aids apart from clutch unless you run a clutch

no - no other wheel (afaik) thats not from some really expensive small company has over 240° but Logitech.