Hello,

A few questions. I just got a DFP 2 days ago and I am trying to learn to drift. I just downloaded the drift bible too. Anyways, what degrees should I use the wheel on? Also, what map is the best to start practicing drifting?

Thanks.

try from 540degrees to 720. try out the dfp settings in my sig. if you search, you will find many threads on drifting already. Its all about car control.

blackwood reverse, or one of the fernbay tracks in reverse are good for practicing drifting. you might want to put some cones down and drift around on the autox as well.
www.lfs-torque.net is a good website for drifting help in lfs.

Thanks. Although I am on 720 now, I find it so hard to countersteer fast enough, my car always winds up spinning out of control! Any advice?

maybe you arent countersteering early enough? try 620degrees. try downloading one of the drift setups off of inferno. team INFERNO -:-:- Live for Speed (LFS). there are some setups uploaded here as well. easy to find if you search for them. i honestly cant even remember the last time i've spun out in an xrt.

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Thanks. Although I am on 720 now, I find it so hard to countersteer fast enough, my car always winds up spinning out of control! Any advice?

The DFP is not too good with countersteering, cause its motor has quite a brake effect on turning, if you had gotten the G25 it would be lot easier. One way would be lowering the maximum lock in the Profiler, or you could try to be more "rough" to your hardware. Or maybe - if you are skilled enough and don't mind losing your warranty - change the FFB-motor

I am trying to feint drift but I really find it hard and the drift bible doesn't really help a lot.. because all it shows for feint is one corner and in LFS it is a different turn.. it is just so frustrating because I do not know how hard to turn/gas/when to countersteer, etc.

try my version of the drift bible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMz6zPavWEU

edit: 500 posts O_o

Yeah thanks Pretty nicely done, but still i'd like to see someone do it on Blackwood reverse, that way I can observe and learn

Quote from SergiuArsenie :

it is just so frustrating because I do not know how hard to turn/gas/when to countersteer, etc.

No one can tell you when to press the throttle or when and how hard to steer. It depends on the configuration of the track and generally the position of your car. Keiichi is the Drift King. Believe me, there's no one who could teach you the basics better than him. He practically invented the drift. When you learn the theory, you start the practice by your self. After a while, it will unvail itself to you. Believe me.

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No one can tell you when to press the throttle or when and how hard to steer. It depends on the configuration of the track and generally the position of your car. Keiichi is the Drift King. Believe me, there's no one who could teach you the basics better than him. He practically invented the drift. When you learn the theory, you start the practice by your self. After a while, it will unvail itself to you. Believe me.

yeah what he said^^

Yeah the drift bible is a nice piece of video. Beware that the terms used may be different elsewhere. For example the feint may very well be called flick or scadinavian flick.

The DFP at 720 degrees is indeed more difficult to drift with than, say, the MOMO. If you hold countersteer until the FF pulls you back you'll likely spin in the other direction. Anyway, try to be one step ahead of the FF may help you a bit. Or otherwise just reduce some rotation as people say.

In GPL and NR2003 I just set a "ff lag time" to 40ms, so that the game may send the expected FF signal one step ahead to the wheel. I don't think there's an equivalent in LFS.

Oh, and did you try running your DFP in "high force mode"? I suspect it allows more voltage to the FF motor, allowing a faster feedback. I think you switch to it by pressing L2+R3+select, and then the LED should blink twice... Oh dear, I'm not with my wheel now, so I'll update as I get back home.

edit: it's L1+R3+select

ok i use my DFP at 720 deg with This is on BL rev
lfs settings
wheel turn 720deg
wheel turn comp 1:00
24 ff

logitec profiler setings at
overall effect str 100%
spring effect str 0%
damper efect str 0%
center spring not enabled 0%

at 720deg and i find its ok but i cant drift as good as i used to with my old 270deg wheel

check my replay watch the 3rd lap and u can get a idea of drifting in lfs

www.freewebs.com/drift-teacher


free lessons on weekends when i have time to teach


remember thats the first driftschool on lfs ( to my understanding )

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remember thats the first driftschool on lfs ( to my understanding )

a simple search would have shown you otherwise