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New plans for Silverstone
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New plans for Silverstone
This looks intresting if anything comes of it. Why is Bernie Ecclestone always trying to get silverstone off the race calendar?. Ive never been to silverstone, but are the facilities that bad?.

Quote : from MSN:
In an ongoing attempt to secure the future of the British Grand Prix, Silverstone has revealed plans to redevelop its pit and paddock complex.


With the contract held by the owners of the Northamptonshire circuit, the British Racing Drivers' Club, to stage the race expiring in 2009, the plans are seen as vital to the British Grand Prix's future.

Formula One commercial rights controller Bernie Ecclestone has long held the opinion that facilities offered by Silverstone are inferior to those of more recent additions to the calendar.

However, the BRDC are hopeful that the new pit area will act as a catalyst for further investment across the site as part of a 10-year redevelopment plan.

Under the proposals, the pit complex will be moved from its current location between Woodcote and Copse corners to a new location between Club and Abbey.

Included in the complex are new garages, a race control building, media centre, hospitality and VIP spectator zones and a primary paddock.

The proposals also involve creating a new pit straight, with reorganised entry and exit points, a reconfiguration of Club Corner and a new Abbey section.

In the longer term, the BRDC hope that Silverstone can also be home to a new manufacturer test centre, business park, extreme sport and leisure complex, two hotels, a new university campus, a 'Welcome Centre' and some new homes near the circuit.


Future vision



Damon Hill, president of the BRDC, said: "Silverstone is a great track with a great history. These images are the vision of the future for Silverstone, and one we fervently hope will be realised, in order to provide a venue where all forms of motor sport can be celebrated in style, for the benefit of the competitor and spectator alike.

"This new facility, and the redevelopment at large, will help attract more business to Northamptonshire and create more jobs for local communities.

"The British Grand Prix alone contributes over £30 million a year to the local area and it is vital that we do everything we can to maintain this income as well as the UK's world-class expertise in high-tech engineering and R&D.

"Also, it should go without saying by now, that in order to retain the British Grand Prix we need a venue of this kind of stature, and the Grand Prix is a key element in the whole project."

The plans are due to be discussed at a South Northamptonshire Council meeting later this month with a full planning application due to be submitted soon.

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#3 - MR_B
looks very over the top to me. Also, why aren't the granstands covered? I don't fancy getting wet. Or being watched by dry snobs as I get wet.

*Edit: In picture 2: Do the teams really need 4 garages? Why is there a Ferrari employee in the Mclaren garage!! And why is there a Jaguar on track?

*Edit 2: Why does the Ferrari in picture 1 have no airbox?

*Edit 3: Let's rip the p*ss some more
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This same thing was proposed a number of years ago (back in 2003, I think) - it's just regurgitating the same thing again, but now with some fancy renders.

Additionally, I'm loving the attention to detail... someone screwed up the texturing on the pitwalls stands in both images

Again... why is there a French flag on the side of the top part of the building (right) on the first picture?

And apparently only 16 cars can start a race
And the Red Arrows are missing an aircraft


Quote from MR_B :Why is there a Ferrari employee in the Mclaren garage!!

from what I've heard that's fairly normal.... </controversy>
#6 - MR_B
so why would they need 41 garages? Why does renault only have 2 garage spaces in pic 1. And why aren't the pit boxes aligned with the garages?

I could go on...

Edit: And I am...

How much did they pay this guy? Or company? *cough* rip off *cough*
#7 - robt
thing that gets me is moving the whole pit complex! that means moving the start/finish. its just not gonna feel right.
Quote from MR_B :so why would they need 41 garages?

Le Mans Series has a round there

And F1 teams requires three or two garages per team or what?

ps. haha, that pic could be a great source for some photoshopping contest!
Quote from robt :thing that gets me is moving the whole pit complex! that means moving the start/finish. its just not gonna feel right.

No, it was there in the 50's. I'd like the new version to be a complete recreation of the 1950 layout (but with modern furniture), but that wouldn't happen.
The render looks nice. I hope the real track will be as good. I also wonder if the current facilities are that bad.

I've read about the road that connects to the track, but I also see another thing. IMO, the reason why Bernie always pushes Silverstone and other european tracks is that Formula 1 is like a financial pyramid. There is a demand for Grand prix-es from different countries, may are ready to invest and pay the fee for holding a GP, and all this leaves the tracks below the margin. AFAIR, Malaysia track has been sold, maybe not once. Turkey track was near the margin before it was fined by Mosley, and then Bernie took it over. Spa track lost the GP, because the revenue can't cover all the expenses.

So when there are emirates and Asian countries which want to waste money by making on their home GPs, F1's appetites increase constantly. In Europe where tracks are private, less and less can bear the same burden of expenditures on a GP (Spa Francochamps and Magny Cours IIRC quit F1 for financial reasons) while Quatar, thanks to oil prices, can donate money for a unprofitable undertaking, just for prestige. Malaysia and China initially did the same thanks to their economic growth.
Quote from Rdcranno :This looks intresting if anything comes of it. Why is Bernie Ecclestone always trying to get silverstone off the race calendar?. Ive never been to silverstone, but are the facilities that bad?.

There's nothing wrong with Silverstones facilities, Bernie just wants to get rid of Silverstone because it's owned by the BRDC (who he really doesn't like), all that nonsense about a London GP was just him trying to have a go at the BRDC.

There's nothing wrong with the current location of the pits, building a new pitlane where they're suggesting makes no sense, under those proposals the club and international circuits (the ones that are used for the majority of meetings) would still be on the old (very good) pit complex.

Quote from MR_B :so why would they need 41 garages? Why does renault only have 2 garage spaces in pic 1. And why aren't the pit boxes aligned with the garages?

The Birkett Relay has about 250 cars in 50 teams competing on the club circuit. The Britcar race has about the same number of teams as well.
#12 - MR_B
fyi, when i said "so why would they need 41 garages? I was referring to the 16 grid slots painted on the track.

I do know that grids exceed 16 cars... Anyone on this forum would know that.
Quote from detail :Spa track lost the GP, because the revenue can't cover all the expenses.

Huh? As far as I'm aware Spa has a contract to host the Belgian GP for a few more years at least. They just finished a huge renovation of the pits/paddock complex and a resurfacing of the circuit as well. Why would they spend all that money if they're going to lose the race?

As far as Silverstone goes, I honestly care more about the reprofiling of the circuit itself than the new pits/paddock complex. Hopefully they'll put Club back to the way it was before 1991. If necessary I'm sure they can increase the runoff rather than emasculating a formerly-great corner. And I hope they get rid off the Luffield complex mess at the end of the lap too, because it spoils the flow of what is mostly a very fast flowing track. Sector 1 is great.

Open up the exit of Stowe, get rid of the Vale left-hander to fix Club, and turn the Luffield complex into a single fast left-hander leading to Woodcote. Those changes would put Silverstone right up there with Spa and Suzuka.
it does? lol i know an F1 grid has 21 cars theres about. I peosonally think silverstone is the best facilitys of a track i've ever been too. It's the only one And i think the plans for the new pit garage is fugly.
Quote from Luke.S :it does? lol i know an F1 grid has 21 cars theres about. I peosonally think silverstone is the best facilitys of a track i've ever been too. It's the only one And i think the plans for the new pit garage is fugly.

Does your mother know you spell like that? Surely you have at least graduated from elementary school and have basic spelling and grammar skills.

The current F1 field has 22 cars. 11 teams x 2 cars each = 22.

If you've only personally been to one F1 circuit, you really aren't in any position to judge Silverstone's infrastructure relative to other F1 venues.
whats elementary school? and fugly is a cross between two words. One of my mates went to brands hatch once and he videoed it and i thought silverstones facilitys looked better.
Quote from Luke.S :whats elementary schoo? and fugly is a cross between two words. One of my mates went to brandshatch once and he videoed it and i thought silverstones facilitys looked better.

It was a general comment about your spelling. Elementary School is what we call Primary or First School. Hence the name - Elementary.

Yes, Silverstone has better facilities than Brands Hatch. But as Brands Hatch isn't an F1 venue, and won't be for a long time if ever, it's not relevent to this thread. The main problem with Brands isn't the quality of the facilites (although a bit crap these days), but the size available where they are. There simply isn't enough room for big transporters, and access is rubbish too. Hell, even we had problems backing up to the garages with a car and trailer!
oh with school? i have a sticky l key.
Quote from tristancliffe :
Yes, Silverstone has better facilities than Brands Hatch. But as Brands Hatch isn't an F1 venue, and won't be for a long time if ever, it's not relevent to this thread. The main problem with Brands isn't the quality of the facilites (although a bit crap these days), but the size available where they are. There simply isn't enough room for big transporters, and access is rubbish too. Hell, even we had problems backing up to the garages with a car and trailer!

...and the silly speed bump broke all the crockery in our caravan. It also doesn't have a particularly good curry house nearby
#21 - SamH
The BRDC has screwed over Silverstone's spectators with attrocious facilities and lined its members' pockets with almost no re-investment for many, many years. It's definitely a most undeserving F1 venue, IMO. What really gets my goat is that they want money from taxpayers to do the place up, so they can shaft the same taxpayers with even more ridiculous entry fees, all over again, using the facilities we'll have already paid for to justify it. I say screw 'em, and drop it from the calendar.
MSV has been saying the similar thing about Snetterton for years, who knows when it will happen....
Quote from SamH :The BRDC has screwed over Silverstone's spectators with attrocious facilities and lined its members' pockets with almost no re-investment for many, many years. It's definitely a most undeserving F1 venue, IMO.

The management decisions were largely down to Octagon, who had no idea how to run a motorsport venue and seriously damaged the reputation of all the tracks they ran (Silverstone + the Motorsport Vision circuits). Hopefully Silverstone will someday recover but it still has ridiculously expensive food, grandstands are closed at club meetings (for health and safety reasons :really and the paddock is a sea of fencing (which I suppose is a good thing as far as F1 is concerned but extremely annoying at smaller meetings.

New plans for Silverstone
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