I thought this is interesting. A new book from Al Gore

http://www.npr.org/templates/s ... 90092&ft=1&f=1012

The last few years I've begun to have a problem with Al and the general way in which the media has been handling the GW debate. In the excerpt from his new book, he's talking mainly about Bush and how the president manipulated the public into supporting war by instilling repeated messages of fear. Here's a quote..

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Consider how the Bush administration has used some of the ¬techniques identified by Professor Glassner. Repeating the same threat over and over again, misdirecting attention (from al-Qaeda to Saddam Hussein), and using vivid imagery (a "mushroom cloud over an American city").

Now replace Bush with Gore, change the imagery around a bit, and the sentence remains true. Without reading the rest of the book, I wonder if Al will actually hold out on a critical review of his own agenda. He's already stated that emotional imagery can be used in the pursuit of positive aims, but if the reality of GW turns out to be anything other than catastrophic, then will 'An Inconvenient Truth' still make a good movie?

"Assault on Reason" sounds like a good title. We all know what it feels like to get swept up in things which we don't really understand. Maybe this book will come across as a sort of an apology, but then again it could easily end up as just another effort at 'misdirecting attention'. While average global temperatures have failed to increase over the last decade, and latest research (published in Nature magazine) suggests that the oceans are actually cooling, maybe this is just a crafty way of showing the emporor has no clothes- no not this emporor, that other one, over there! Look everybody! <runs>

I don't know. This is my head's about to fall on the desk from tiredness last post before I call it a night. Be interesting to see what you guys make of this..

Yeah, but he single-handedly stopped Manbearpig!

Quote from Crashgate3 :

Yeah, but he single-handedly stopped Manbearpig!

PFFFFT, LMAO.... remembered this one

He is a hypocrit, like all politicians, its do as I say not, not as I do. But he helped draw attention to the issue of global warming, it takes someone important in a suit to make that happen, not some scientists or tree hugging hippies. Good luck to the guy I say, for a politician he aint that bad, but thats like saying getting punched in the face is better than having your balls cut off.

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Yeah, but he single-handedly stopped Manbearpig!

But that's the only thing he's achieved worth mentioning.

If those damn polar bears are in trouble how come the arctic ice sheets the largest is ever been this past winter.

And now global warmings on hold anyway for the next 10 years .......

"Global warming will be "put on hold" over the next decade because of natural climate variations, scientists claim.
A study of sea temperature changes predicts a lull as traditional climate cycles cancel out the heating effect of greenhouse gases from pollution. The findings suggest the official models used to predict short-term global warming patterns are too crude."

"But the study by Dr Noel Keenlyside, of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in Germany, predicts the temperature of the North Atlantic around Europe and North America may cool slightly."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pag ... e_id=1770&in_a_source=

Just remember that you have to keep buying those carbon credits.

After all, someone's got to make money from the whole ' Global Warming' marketing excercise, just remember it's not you.

Quote from Crashgate3 :

Yeah, but he single-handedly stopped Manbearpig!

Really? Are you SERIAL???

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

He is a hypocrit, like all politicians, its do as I say not, not as I do. But he helped draw attention to the issue of global warming, it takes someone important in a suit to make that happen, not some scientists or tree hugging hippies. Good luck to the guy I say, for a politician he aint that bad, but thats like saying getting punched in the face is better than having your balls cut off.

The problem is that he's not specifically raising concerns about the importance of conservation and keeping the earth clean, what he's EXACTLY doing is using imagery and fluff to directly connect two things which may actually be ENTIRELY separate. There is as much to tie global warming to OUR behaviour as there is to tie Saddam Hussain to 9/11 (i.e. absolutely diddly).

He IS right about Bush. However, he's done EXACTLY the same thing, himself, about global warming.

He was more of a conservationist years ago. I don't want to say he hasn't done anything good for the environment, he really has (more than I'll ever achieve)- but his latest crusade is flattening the scope of environmental concerns to a point where 'being green' is simply about focusing on cutting down on greenhouse gases. That's a huge disservice imo.

I think what's happened in part is that the media has had to reinvent itself after Iraq and the war on terrortm. I remember, at that time there was no real hard criticism in the media about going to war, all the main news outlets were simply lined up behind Bush and his phony preaching- people weren't being spoken for, the only criticism you could hear was on the streets. History and hindsight has judged that somewhat and the media knows that it played a big part in all of that, so to save credibility it's now appearing to take this other side, the green, conscientious, anti oil, anti big business 'hey, we have dreadlocks too' approach. There's unbalance in the media about GW because of the two sided-ness of the GW debate. To question Gore is (in a roundabout way) to side with Bush (which the media can no longer afford to do) unfortunately, as the issue is being played out more in the political rather than in the scientific realm. Of course there's more to it than that, but that's how I kind of see it anyway. :rolleyes:

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But that's the only thing he's achieved worth mentioning.

If those damn polar bears are in trouble how come the arctic ice sheets the largest is ever been this past winter.

And now global warmings on hold anyway for the next 10 years .......

"Global warming will be "put on hold" over the next decade because of natural climate variations, scientists claim.
A study of sea temperature changes predicts a lull as traditional climate cycles cancel out the heating effect of greenhouse gases from pollution. The findings suggest the official models used to predict short-term global warming patterns are too crude."

"But the study by Dr Noel Keenlyside, of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in Germany, predicts the temperature of the North Atlantic around Europe and North America may cool slightly."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pag ... e_id=1770&in_a_source=

Just remember that you have to keep buying those carbon credits.

After all, someone's got to make money from the whole ' Global Warming' marketing excercise, just remember it's not you.

The Daily Mail is hardly a reliable source of information, they would have you believe the government is taxing murder and that they ride around in kill buses slaughtering white middle class men so they can grind them up and feed them to the immigrants.