I know im an oval Junkie but maybe a short track oval would be nice

I vote for real tracks in the future. What's the big deal? I think we've emulated car physics successfully and LFS gives you a good feel for what virtual racing is like. Why not take it to the next level. THere's something special about real world locations. We play em in every other sim and its frustrating that LFS physics and cars cannot be unleased on these same tracks. I think this would render all other simulations obsolete for me. That only reason I play GTR, rFactor or GPL is becuase of real world locations. This would be a cash cow for the devs. I'm sure there are plenty of tracks that can be modeled without incurring huge amounts of expense. Heck, I'd pay good money for such tracks.

Maybe someone needs to do a bit of research into actually how much real licences cost. Not by guesswork, but by contacting various tracks and finding out the real cost.

Until then it is just conjecture that they cost too much for LFS.

Hopefully the Norschleife isn't too expensive

But rather phone 'em on the Week-End, when the tracks are open for public driving.

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I think Eric's tracks are too hilly

No way! I hope you're only joking!

Hills and elevation changes are what make a track challenging and fun. There's a reason that tracks like Bathhurst and Laguna Seca constantly show up on the 'want list' for tracks. Fighting your way up those hills, then trying to control your car on the way down is exciting!

I think they should pay LFS to have their tracks in the game. First step is to hire a hacker and silently slip a copy of LFS onto the track owner's PC.......

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+100

& Nordschleife

KTNXBYE

Being a real racer driving around spa in belgium or the nordschleife or laguna seca (oo bad they are ripping the cork's screw) would be magical with the lfs cars.

now, the amount of work to recreate a good copy of the original is amazing. so, in place of building poor replicas that would be criticized, they create fantasy tracks and have the possibility to let their creativity do the job. no comparison, just fun.

a 25-30 miles rally stage or a more exotic track would be welcomed (rain, ...), but this is personal.

i love lfs as it is, especially when you think there are only 3 people behind that. poor simbin guys who preferred the money to the freedom.

long life to lfs.

Without real cars, real tracks wouldn't matter much. I think it should be either both or none, and in my humble opinion LFS is going just fine with mostly fictional cars and tracks.

In my opinion LFS has a lot to offer to the car manufacturers and track lords (words...). These things are all the time growing amount of users, well organized racing leagues and good and realistic racing simulator. Too bad these aren't the things they are after. Money and marketing.

All we need to do is to get someone who owns a racing track to try LFS . And maybe those very small car builders who build those little exotic widgets would like to join too. Who knows, maybe the car manufacturers start to think twice before giving their cars and all to some crappy games when there are people who enjoy realistic racing. The money they get is so small after all if compared to the other costs/income they have.

There are lots of ways which haven't been thought of yet. I remember that someone made some old castle for Unreal Tournament 2003 and it was part of some historical museum project. They used the computer model to show what kind of place it really was. There are ways to apply this to LFS. It needs just work and eye to recongnize the window when it opens. One way could be to contact some racing related museum and ask if they would be interested.

I might be interested to contact some finnish race tracks if they were interested about this LFS thing. But I really feel little "reserved" about contacting the track lords (again that word) and using the LFS name. And the other questions are as important as well: do we want that track to LFS at all? Do the devs want it and are they interested to spend time creating it? What kind of terms are they willing to accept? As I really can't promise anything or even mentioning LFS in that context is little risky...as I am only a customer who has bought one copy of it.

But there is always chance and sometimes a way too

I like the oval sometimes, when there are not a bunch of pricks on it, but...I think I would enjoy it more if there were more indy car type tracks. I'm sure somebody has said this over and over, but taladega, or california speedway type tracks. Ofcourse something like that would be great, and I'm sure they thought of it already, so I'll just remind'em

You say about real cars but LFS can model there cars almost exactly on real ones and it be fine. However they can not do the same with real tracks.
For instance the FOX is just like a formula Renult or somthing like that but as they dont say it is then they dont have to pay for it.