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Quote from yeager :Ban Silver and above drivers from race 1, then race 2/3 would fill up a lot quicker.

keep in mind that just because some1 has collected enough points to have a silver license, it doesn't mean they are ready for race2.
i have silver, and i get spanked in race1 all the time.
hate to admit it, but that's the way it is.....
Quote from z-ro 8 :keep in mind that just because some1 has collected enough points to have a silver license, it doesn't mean they are ready for race2.
i have silver, and i get spanked in race1 all the time.
hate to admit it, but that's the way it is.....

That doesn't mean you can't compete in Race 2 or 3, either. I usually get spanked in Race 1 too, or I did when I last raced there (it's been a while). I'm hardly ever among the leaders on 2 or 3, but I can compete there and usually have people I can race with.
Quote from peterules :give them more incentive to go into race 2/3

Imagine, there are people who just like to drive the XFG/XRG and don't care about the points.
Quote from racer hero :Make a silver+ XFG and XRG server which awards more points.

Thus also thinning the lines of XFG&XRG drivers, by separating the novice drivers from the experienced ones? For the novice drivers, that would make getting to Silver even harder.

And I really don't believe that the silver+ crowd would prefer that option, and the server wouldn't be that popular.

Because, people who are silver+ don't drive the XFG&XRG for points, as the higher their license, the fewer points they get from race 1. So they must be doing it for the fun of it, and especially, the competition. Competition with 15 cars on the grid is much more challenging than with a grid of 3-5.
So the silver+ server wouldn't serve its cause.
ok, maybe silver was a bit too harsh! but then this brings up the fact that i love to race in the FBM SS1 but due to the licence i have for single seaters i earn 2pts for a win, 1pt for a 4th place and 0pts for 6th or lower. i dont do it for the points either but one mistake or one tap from a T1 diver in SS1 and i'm out of the points for sure. Maybe they should do the same for the higher licence drivers in race 1 too?....
I havent read it all but I think opening up race 2 for XFG and XRG woud be a splendid idea. Unlike Sam I do think it would fill up race 2 and sure like the idea. You get the multiclass racing you have on race 3. And boy I like that. As a faster driver you have to be so much more aware of other slower cars on track. You have to pick your moment to pass them. It gives me more a race feeling then just TBO. TBO are great cars but so hard to handle. And when a racer made it to a silver license the switch isnt that big. They can switch back to the car they used to drive without filling up server 1.

Hense the idea multiclass race 2
Limit Gold and above to driving STD on Race 2


Yes, that was a joke ;-)
Quote from NotAnIllusion :Limit Gold and above to driving STD on Race 2


Yes, that was a joke ;-)

Suppose we will all have to wait and see what happens when the new car is introduced. It's so exciting not knowing whats going to happen
Multiclass Race 2 was tried with LRF...it didn't really help.
Quote from Bean0 :Multiclass Race 2 was tried with LRF...it didn't really help.

LRFs are (for me anyway) far harder to drive than anything up to that point though
Quote from Bean0 :Multiclass Race 2 was tried with LRF...it didn't really help.

Yup it was. But for most of the racers hard cars to drive. And to me not really a perfect match with the TBO. The XFG/XRG arent really a match but those arent there to compete. To occupy race 2 and give the new licensed silver drivers a fallback.

Also I think you give the lower licensed racers on race1 more change of winning and progressing better in there license. Just my 2 cents on the matter.
Just another thought on this issue.

There has been the odd occasion when I have got the "Server Full" message when trying to join race 1.

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong but with a server limit of 32 and only 20 allowed on the track at a time this leaves 12 people unable to race + those unable to join the server. I understand that not all those 12 will be wanting to race, spectating while eating etc. but it will still be a fair amount of people wanting to race but can't.

I'd also love to be able to race XFG within the cleaner Race 2/3 environment but I do also understand that watering down Race 1 might not be a good thing. I found the CTRA servers while looking for a XFG server that had quite a few racers that wasn't on BL1.
pleasantly suprised...
I'm pleasently surprised how many positive posts about multi-class racing I read in the last couple of days.
That seems to be of high value to a quite some people - which is a good thing

I'm all for introducing multi-class racing to Race 2!
Yes, TBO + LRF was tried before & it didn't quite work -

In my understanding that has to do with the car's power-to-weight ratio, which was pretty close. BUT at the same time there were indeed "incompatible handling" - issues that were never overcome. There were simply so many different lines and accel/brake-points for all those cars that it was too much to handle for most racers at silver/gold stage.

Now again, TBO + STD is a very different animal. I think this could work out for the better. And at peak times of day this would clearly mean a releave for Race 1 and the newbies while at the same time give us STD & TBO-lovers a far better competetive environment and a larger variety of tracks to race on.

On another note: If multi-class racing is considered too risky on Race 2 how about a simple interchanging class pattern? One race TBO, the next one STD, and so forth... ?

Me, I'd clearly prefer Race 2 to be multi-class

btw: Merry Christmas!
DrBen
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