yo, i haven't been on here in forever, but i just got a DFGT (my DFP died along time ago lol) and it WAS working fine with the wing man drivers but the extra buttons didn't work so i went to google for help and found that logitech had released some drivers just for the DFGT and so i installed thoughs..... my extra buttons work.... all my other games work without a hitch, but LFS won't even start much as get passed a blank black screen on start up if the wheel is pluged in. i even tryed exiting the logitech drivers and running the wheel off windows drivers but it's the same deal, witch doesn't make any sense, all this started wen i installed the logitech drivers.... i shut down the logitech drives and it still happens.... yet it worked fine before..... and so it comes to this.

It IS the drivers, but ISN'T lol and all my other games work, so im really confused right now ~.~ ah, one more thing, im running windows 7 right now.

Maybe that´s the reason why it´s called Windows 7 Beta! Any possibility to test the wheel with vista or xp (friend?)? I can´t imagine how Logitech´s Gaming Software should hinder LFS from starting.

Well, the thing is, like i said it DID work just fine before, so i really fail to see how it could be 7, i'll try FULLY uninstalling ANYTHING to do with logitech and try again to see if i can force it to work again at all i guess :P

EDIT: WTF..... it doesn't work anymore..... i just uninstalled the logitech gaming software 5.04.... and it doesn't work... yet it did work before, hell i was racing no more then a week ago, on 7, it was working, with no problems..... i'll be pissed if one of the auto updates changed something at the same time i installed the new shit from logitech.... that would really piss me off.... cause my mothers computer sucks and im not duel booting ATM.... T.T i wanna cry..... want race now...... T.T....... help..... some hacker dude needs to come and tell me how to tell winblows to Phuck off and force LFS to run lol

Ok, could it be that the special DFGT driver is incompatible with Windows 7? It´s hard to think about Windows in a logical way, I once lost my keyboard support having installed my mainboard drivers after a new xp installation. I didn´t manage to get it to work, so I had to install Windows again (The keyboard worked fine in BIOS!)

So try the standard driver if you haven´t.

Well, i dont know if it's 7+new drivers because project torque (only other racer i play ATM) still works perfectly..... although.... the GTR evo demo is doing the same, i just downloaded it cause i wanted a SIm to play around with till i fixed this, would be nice if we could find the coman ground in the programing of GTR and LFS thats causing the problem, whatever it is we know PT doesn't use whatever protocal is causing the problem, if we could find what LFS and GTR do differently then PT, then we might find a workaround at the very least.

>.> i dont know why... it just magically started working again.... i guess i should just be happen and not try to unstand how it is winblows works >.> thanks for the help, it works now, see you on the track >.>...*mumbles about windows well walking off*