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"Fear is part of people's life. Some of them don't know how to face it, others - where I include myself - learn coexisting with it or face it, not as a negative thing, but like a autoprotection sensation"

No disrespect for his tragic crash at Imola, however, I really don't think Senna is the best example of a racing driver. IMO he was not an all time great because he was such a dirty driver (think of the forcing Prost off track). Intresting he felt fear, maybe that was part of his problem in that he tried to overcome it and ended up in a red mist trying to overcome his fear.

Don't forget Prost did the same thing to Senna a year earlier (different corner, lower speeds, but just as dirty).

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I find it rather pointless to argue with people who think that winning some completely irrelevant kart-championship is more important than their health

I'd rather live my whole life in a minute then live a minute in a whole life - and all those other similar sayings.

I love racing and I want to win, but most importantly I want to be on the track. I've made bad judgements, i've crashed, i've come runner up. I've also won. The important thing is that I was on the track, and not sitting on the sidelines wishing I was there - as I am now.

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I would certainly feel a lot less fear racing Senna in a 1980s formula-1-car than Becky on a tricycle. Even though I'm sure Becky has lapped Senna many times .

Very funny. I am sure I could have learned a lot about racing from the late great Ayrton Senna. He could teach me a thing or two about remote control cars aswell. I could doubtless teach him a few things about computers ... as for who knows most about the mind, his knowledge in this field is undocumented, as is mine. In my previous posts I just echoed my personal experiences combined with a documentary film I saw on the subject. /shrug

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Don't forget Prost did the same thing to Senna a year earlier (different corner, lower speeds, but just as dirty).

Never said Prost was clean or that I hold him as a great either

Schumacher arguably did the same thing to D. Hill after schumacher hit the wall in Adelaide, so i guess all the world champions have been bad drivers. lol

Quote from Becky Rose :

I'd rather live my whole life in a minute then live a minute in a whole life - and all those other similar sayings.

so i guess we finally know who the blackwood guru really is

Yup, I think all the world champions, back to the dawn of motor-racing, have had, and have had to have had, a ruthless killer instinct. In the 'olden' days it was tempered by the fact they they could just as easily kill themselves or someone else doing it, but as safety has improved drivers have just pushed the boundaries in sympathy. That is why motor racing can't be safe, and it's why drivers will always do the dirty if they think they can get away with it (which in F1's case means live and walk afterwards, and even then I think walking would be that high on their list of priorities at that particular moment).

^^ Disagree mainy fast recent drivers haven't been dirty few I can think of:

Hakkinen
Alonso (pushes the car hard but doesn't tangle with others)
Raikkonen
Schumacher's Ferrari days

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^^ Disagree mainy fast recent drivers haven't been dirty few I can think of:

Hakkinen
Alonso (pushes the car hard but doesn't tangle with others)
Raikkonen
Schumacher's Ferrari days

Though if I remember it correctly, Häkkinen got some penalty at some point early in his career because he caused some major accident...?

Btw. Häkkinen rules

Quote from Hyperactive :

Though if I remember it correctly, Häkkinen got some penalty at some point early in his career because he caused some major accident...?

Maybe I've always remembered him as a clean racer, but then again I was only 9 when he won his second world title.

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Maybe I've always remembered him as a clean racer, but then again I was only 9 when he won his second world title.

It's not that he wasn't a clean driver, it was just that he has made (just) one mistake

^^ Making a mistake is obviously very different to playing dirty.