See attached pic

Ok? use inevitable pics thread

Needs some stiffer springs and anti roll bars.

That's a massive inclination! But judging from the fact that there are to aircraft on it, I guess it was one of those tests they run before putting it in action.

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That's a massive inclination! But judging from the fact that there are to aircraft on it, I guess it was one of those tests they run before putting it in action.

There *were* aircraft on it, they're a couple of miles further back now

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There *were* aircraft on it, they're a couple of miles further back now

Well that's a nice way of looking at it Just noticed that a part of the crew are on the deck. Loonies!

I freakin' loled when I saw it...

Looks more like understeer to me

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That's a massive inclination!

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Well that's a nice way of looking at it Just noticed that a part of the crew are on the deck. Loonies!

Please tell me you are joking, this is pathetic! (and it's called "rolling" not "inclination")

List be the correct nautical term sir?

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List be the correct nautical term sir?

No. Well... not quite. Roll is when the vessel rolls from left to right in the waves, or when it's making a maneuvre. List is a lasting state, when the vessel maintains it's angle, usually due to bad weight distribution when loading, or if the cargo breaks loose

Fair enough.

No-one be correctin' Cap'n Squidhead on his nautical terms, aaarrr..

I bet it handles like a boat!

OK, I'll get my coat...

And i just found the worst drift ever

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Please tell me you are joking, this is pathetic! (and it's called "rolling" not "inclination")

For something which is around 20 stories tall, that is quite massive IMO.

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For something which is around 20 stories tall, that is quite massive IMO.

Those are some small stories you have in mind then, cause it's flight deck is barely 25-30 meters above the water...аnd having 12 meters of draft helps, AND that's a pathetic angle for any vessel, let alone a war ship

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Those are some small stories you have in mind then, cause it's flight deck is barely 25-30 meters above the water...аnd having 12 meters of draft helps, AND that's a pathetic angle for any vessel, let alone a war ship

30 metres is a long way to fall.

The angle may not be that extreme, but I'm sure its quite fun and scary when you're on the deck, I'd like to try.

I wouldn't however, like to be onboard this. Is it me or can you actually see the whole ship flexing?

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30 metres is a long way to fall.

The angle may not be that extreme, but I'm sure its quite fun and scary when you're on the deck, I'd like to try.

I wouldn't however, like to be onboard this. Is it me or can you actually see the whole ship flexing?

It's not "fun" or "scary" to be honest... it's annoying... especially if you're hitting rough weather for 10-12 days straight The link however, yeah, that's severe, but I didn't see flex, but it should be there, otherwise it'd just fall apart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE_ri8PkihE

here, starting from 0:13 - you can see the scale of the flexing

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30 metres is a long way to fall.

The angle may not be that extreme, but I'm sure its quite fun and scary when you're on the deck, I'd like to try.

I wouldn't however, like to be onboard this. Is it me or can you actually see the whole ship flexing?

That's almost exactly how Estonia sunk in 1993.

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That's almost exactly how Estonia sunk in 1993.

She sunk (in 1994 by the way) because the bow visor to car deck locks couldn't hold the stress when the vessel nose dived off the waves, making it a design flaw, not hull flex problems. Besides, the hull flex is a good thing, if the hull woudln't flex, the whole ship would break apart in rough weather much sooner.

Also the utter incompetence of the crew played it's part (Listen to Estonia's distress signal on YT - it's completely out of mandatory format. If you're issuing a "mayday" then the first thing coming out of your mouth over the radio would be "Mayday mayday mayday, Estonia, Estonia, Estonia". Afterwards you state your location and what's wrong (you might be attacked by pirates, as well as sinking and all). November and Charlie flags should also be raised if there's still time.

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She sunk (in 1994 by the way) because the bow visor to car deck locks couldn't hold the stress when the vessel nose dived off the waves, making it a design flaw, not hull flex problems. Besides, the hull flex is a good thing, if the hull woudln't flex, the whole ship would break apart in rough weather much sooner.

Also the utter incompetence of the crew played it's part (Listen to Estonia's distress signal on YT - it's completely out of mandatory format. If you're issuing a "mayday" then the first thing coming out of your mouth over the radio would be "Mayday mayday mayday, Estonia, Estonia, Estonia". Afterwards you state your location and what's wrong (you might be attacked by pirates, as well as sinking and all). November and Charlie flags should also be raised if there's still time.

Ye,1994,sorry.

In any way,what I meant under 'almost' is the bow visor coming open in the video,which 5haz posted. You can see that starting from 0:30.


As my mum works on the sea,she told me that they didn't really do any exercising/training at those times. After Estonia sunk,Tallink got into... let's say 'meaner' mood and started to kinda like,force people to do it. And they're still doing it,rather strictly. She also told me that no one exactly knows it,whether the metal just gave up,or it really was an design flaw. I'm thinking it was an design flaw, as Ro-Ro(can't remember the type,pardon me if I'm wrong) type ships aren't built anymore exactly,because of that. For example,in SuperFast 8 ferry(which is on the course of Turku-Rostock?),it has got such bow visors,that it has got metal teeth,so the more the ship shakes,the more it forces both halves together. It has got two layers of them(or even 3,I can't remember),so if even one layer of them breaks,the other layer 'begins to work'. But yeah,thank god my mum wasn't on Estonia that day!

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Ye,1994,sorry.

Tallink got into... let's say 'meaner' mood and started to kinda like,force people to do it.

It's still rather bad actually, I've been on their ferry once, and they actually had a notice to "USE ELEVATORS DURING FIRE OR DISTRESS"... I know Im not setting foot on any of their vessels under any circumstances

Yah,especially during fires,the elevators are like deathtraps. But from the other hand,in a ferry,you haven't got that much room as you do in a house.