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For every Game of Thrones, there are a dozen more like Jersey Shore, Desperate Housewives, 16 and Pregnant, Toddlers and Tiaras, etc.

US TV programming is primarily focused upon mass-market appeal, which more often than not means dumbing everything down to absurdly simplistic levels. I don't even have a TV subscription, mostly because I simply don't watch many programs, but also just sifting through all the garbage is such a major chore it's not even worth my time.

^^ Agreed

I have 700+ channels at home and I still find myself watching pirated movies off my laptop.

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But then the Neo Socialists will have to endure an advertisement.

AFAIK HBO don't run adverts.

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For every Game of Thrones, there are a dozen more like Jersey Shore, Desperate Housewives, 16 and Pregnant, Toddlers and Tiaras, etc.

US TV programming is primarily focused upon mass-market appeal, which more often than not means dumbing everything down to absurdly simplistic levels. I don't even have a TV subscription, mostly because I simply don't watch many programs, but also just sifting through all the garbage is such a major chore it's not even worth my time.

That's not unique to US. There are plenty of dumbed down shows in the UK. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00yl1vf etc...

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Holy Crap, haven't seen you anywhere in LFS in a while, come drive with us at Dead men Racing.

Ant

It has been along time, one day I will take up your offer.

Quote from Intrepid :

AFAIK HBO don't run adverts.



That's not unique to US. There are plenty of dumbed down shows in the UK. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00yl1vf etc...

HBO is a Premium Cable network like Sky is to you guys.

Honesetly though like what rappa is saying, if i was in UK i wouldn't pay the fee i would just torrent shows.

Can we get back on topic before Intrepid ruins another perfectly fine thread?

I really quite enjoyed tonight's show. Obviously no one was going to die by going into Chernobyl, but I still felt worried for the guys and was seriously rooting for them to run out of fuel. I wouldn't want to be in that area at all.

Just what i was thinking... serious chills whenever i see that place. And it's not completely proven that you're safe if you don't stay long.. i wouldn't be messing with that ever.

Only hammond knew how to.burn fuel fast lol, the slowing and accelerating is what burns fuel more then anything.

Except all 3 actually know that. It wasn't a case of knowing anything, but a way of being silly and ending with powerful images of a misunderstood disaster.

Maybe people will read up on Chernobyl and realise nuclear power is the only way to go.

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Except all 3 actually know that. It wasn't a case of knowing anything, but a way of being silly and ending with powerful images of a misunderstood disaster.

Maybe people will read up on Chernobyl and realise nuclear power is the only way to go.

fear is the most nuclear reason why it wont.

Stupidity more like. Nothing to fear.

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Stupidity more like. Nothing to fear.

Saying there's "Nothing to fear" about nuclear power is stupidity too. What you'd be better off saying is something like "Modern nuclear power stations which are run responsibly and situated in carefully chosen locations provide a greater electrical output with a much lower environmental footprint than competing technologies and their health risks are fairly well understood and protected against." There certainly is a risk associated with nuclear power stations, but you have to try and compare that risk against the benefits of nuclear power and in the context of competing means of production. For instance, the risk of a complete meltdown at a modern, well-run and well-situated nuclear power station are very small. Conversely, coal & gas power production (favoured by numerous countries around the world) are a definite contributing factor to tens of thousands of early deaths and serious illnesses every year.

Many people need to realise Japan's failure had extraordinary circumstances also.

Nuclear power is not only problematic when something bad happens. Yeah, it's relatively cheap and clean emmission wise, but it produces spent nuclear fuel which, due to it's quite long half-life is very problematic to store.

I once saw a documentary about one of those "final storages", inside an old salt mine. And the information designers there were quite unironically pondering the question how to communicate the dangers to potential far future finders/archeologists.

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Nuclear power is not only problematic when something bad happens. Yeah, it's relatively cheap and clean emmission wise, but it produces spent nuclear fuel which, due to it's quite long half-life is very problematic to store.

I once saw a documentary about one of those "final storages", inside an old salt mine. And the information designers there were quite unironically pondering the question how to communicate the dangers to potential far future finders/archeologists.

Fair point. I think the film you're referencing is called Into Eternity: A Film for the Future (which is highly recommended viewing). One possible outcome (thinking in the ~50 year range) is that fusion or hybrid fission-fusion reactors may be a solution to dispose of the highly dangerous and long-lasting nuclear waste that results from current fission technology.

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due to it's quite long half-life is very problematic to store.

I once saw a documentary about one of those "final storages", inside an old salt mine. And the information designers there were quite unironically pondering the question how to communicate the dangers to potential far future finders/archeologists.

If you take into account the cost of storage over thousands of years, the price advantage wouldn't be one anymore.

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One possible outcome (thinking in the ~50 year range) is that fusion or hybrid fission-fusion reactors may be a solution to dispose of the highly dangerous and long-lasting nuclear waste that results from current fission technology.

fusion reactors create nuclear waste too though
granted its half life is a lot lower and people are researching reactor building materials that have a short half life but its still a bit of an issue

not to mention that fusion is a technology that is perpetually a mere 20 years from working

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Except all 3 actually know that. It wasn't a case of knowing anything, but a way of being silly and ending with powerful images of a misunderstood disaster.

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the repetitive drama

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Maybe people will read up on Chernobyl and realise nuclear power is the only way to go.

The only way to go where? More power for more people? Should we continue building more houses, creating more people?....Surely there has to be a limit?

On topic- I felt that the episode was correctly placed as number 2...A little knock to the Danish giraffe by way of an unfinished car...James Blunt twitter quips made me chuckle.....and strange how no one who drives cars for a living understands that the brakes slow cars down (seeing as they had no problem running a car on the rpm limiter, then I would presume no problem in holding the brakes on whilst driving....but hey-ho...that is the drama).

I don't think the population trends have much to do with it. If we are going to replace coal and oil with something that can last into the future, then nuclear is the only sensible solution. "Renewables" aren't man enough unless every square meter of land and sea is covered in the harmful and inefficient wind farms, solar isn't viable on a massive scale unless and has quite an environmental impact, etc etc.

No, nuclear isn't free from drawbacks, but it has the fewest problems per megawatt output. In my opinion.

Just like electric cars (either pure electric or with range extenders as opposed to current hybrids) are only a flawed stop-gap until something better is invented/discovered/embraced, so current renewables are a short term fix.

Blunt was an awesome guest, with his "we bomb the shi* out of serbs" remark.. for people and country who never did harm to him or UK.. and he's a member of Doctors without borders or something like that?

The zenvo review was moronic to say the least, 1100hp rwd in the rain is always going to end badly but it would of been a really good lap to see if it was in the dry.

Does it ever fckin not rain in Britain lol? How do you guys keep the spirit up, is it something you can get used to? or is it like getting up early in the morning, it always sucks..

I liked the episode, and I love chernobyl, if I had the opportunity to do the trip these guys did I would.