Yeah I can see why, obviously Weller goes more into rock with later albums, personally I don't mind that though. Of course on the first album after the first few tracks it goes quite into Acid Jazz influences. Haven't checked out the Style Council yet, perhaps I should.
Think of the logistics behind 'orchestrating' 9/11, all those people involved, surely an inside man would've cracked by now?
If then internet and media is 100% full of lies as some would like you to think, then who should we believe? Is there anything more than sketchy, disputed evidence to make the alternative conspiracy theorist's view any more convincing?
There is some truth out there in the media and on the internet, you just have to have a think about it and sieve it out using common sense and looking over the facts from a variety of places. The average person and the conspiracy theorist alike both take their views from media where the conclusions have already been made for them and are probrably biased for their own gain (conspiracy theorists like to sell books, flims and make money just as much as the media does). Its all very well trumpeting your alternative views around the place, but have you actually done any independant thinking or have you just read a handful of blogs linked to eachother and thought "right, I'll blindly believe in this"? Essentially you're just as much of a 'sheep' as the average gullible person, just you're being lead by a different shepheard.
You talk as if you want to convert everyone to believe the 'truth', but what would you do if everyone did start believing? You'd have no one to sarcastically tell to carry on believing the lies in a really patronising and uneccessarily hostile manner. Sort your attitude out and maybe more people will listen, although I wonder whether thats what you really want? Essentially most of the time you're preaching to the already converted, and it really grates to be called a stupid sheep even when you're quite aware of how untrustworthy the state and how selective mainstream media reporting is.
Like the moon landings 9/11 would be one hell of a job to fake although I don't doubt for one second our government's capacity to lie, just whether they're good enough to keep it all covered up, after all if our secret service is liable to leaving laptops full of classified information on trains, then what hope have they got in helping cover up the alleged staging of a international terrorism event on such a spectacular scale?
And so I believe there is the outside chance that 9/11 may well not have been a conspiracy, not because a politician or news reader told me so, but because I applied basic common sense and came to my own simple conclusion, am I still a sheep? Or has 'sheep' become just another pejorative term for somebody who thinks differently to you? In a similar way to how the term 'socialist' is used in America.
Think of the hysteria that would create, I get images of angry Alonso supporting Spanish kids filling forums with "HAMILTON NO SKILL CHEATER JAJAJA". :rolleyes:
Say if one of your 'role models' was found to have comitted a heinous crime, would you suddenly feel a burning need to copy that act?
Role models simply don't have that much of a hold over a sane, mature person with half a brain.
Its the same patronising, politically correct attitude that people who think shooters turn kids into murderers have. The general public is pretty stupid on average but not that stupid. Perhaps being smart would become more fashionable if governments didn't treat the people like they're too stupid to work out right from wrong for themselves.
Obviously people can think for themselves given the chance, and a F1 driver comitting a traffic offense as minor as a burnout will only cause empty headed people with no principles of their own to do the same, it is not said F1 driver's fault that these kind of people exist, so why should he or she face any more punishment than any other person would?
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Just because it happens all the time dosent make it right.
My first computer, god knows what spec it was but it was running Windows 98. The only thing of note was how you had about 10 minutes from start up until the processor overheated and sprung from its mounting and the whole thing froze. Could just about run Microprose GP1 and GPL. That was getting on for 10 years ago.
Nobody above age 12 follows role models in reality. Lets not forget that F1 drivers are also human beings like the rest of us and so should be allowed to have some kind of independant life beyond the reaches of political correctness.
I think the reason Western civilisation is slightly more tolerant is because religion is becoming less prominent, even a hundred years ago atheists would be hard to come by, while I know very few of my generation who attend church, while in the Middle East I get the impresion that Islam still has a incredibly strong hold over every member of society in some regions, from the most humble to the most powerful, which is why intolerance is so much more apparent in these areas while the relatively large numbers of atheists in the West who can see how pointless religion and religious intolerance is results in a relatively tolerant society?
EDIT: And now its the Muslim's turn to show their true colours...
The most galling thing about it all is how uneccessary the whole affair is, from 9/11 right through to this, just religion causing people who would otherwise never think twice about eachother to chant death and preach hate, wage wars and destroy buildings.
Quite right the do, they way that the Muslim faith approaches the human rights of people of other cultures or sexual orientations and women just isn't on in so many cases. But the USA is supposed to be a land of liberty where every man and women is created equal and their human rights upheld, but in truth these principles are trodden on all the time. The USA and the West has allowed itself over centuries to be lowered down to Islam's level of intolerance and then beaten on experience. It is our intolerance that really puts the wind in Al Quaeda's sails.
So you criticise Muslim intolerance but advocate intolerance of Muslims in your own country?
The problem is that despite each side playing the victim in truth each side is just as guilty of intolerance and terrible violent acts, at least Muslims are openly intolerant instead of hididng it behind a veneer of fake liberty and freedom.
What I do know about is a history of Jim Crow laws restricting the 'freedoms' of black people, amendments such as proposition 8 which continue to restrict the 'freedoms' of homosexual people, and the way in which right now Muslim people are having their 'freedoms' to build a Mosque wherever they choose restricted. As Kev already stated above, the proposed mosque will serve and will be run by American citizens, yet suddenly their 'freedoms' no longer apply because of their faith? And that is why I make that claim.
Now, what do you have to back up yours? (And don't say you have 'many years of experience in the industry' somewhere, you've really worn that one out).
The best thing for the people of the US to do now is to uphold the shining beacon of liberty that they supposedly have and let the mosque go ahead, because peaceful tolerance would really stick two fingers up to the radical Muslims trying to turn people against the West, unfortunately its already too late for that and the West has already lowered itself down to their level.
Those who feel victimised need to be reminded that their respective countries are part of unjust occupations or seiges of Muslim people, hardly the position of a victim.
One of the few things most Westerners have left to be proud of is our relative tolerance, at least as far as I can see in my own area. So because Muslims happen to be particularly intolerant of just about everything we should lower ourselves to their level?
Lets say if there were controversial proposals to build a church next to a sensetive Islamic location, no doubt you'd all be going on about people's 'freedoms' to build churches wherever they choose. Thats the thing about the American concept of 'freedoms', everybody should be free, just so long as they don't wear a turban or are black or happen to take a fancy to members of their own sex. You're all perfectly happy to preach the concept of liberty until it works against you.