hehe, yesterday i bought the liceense too from a long time of staying on the demo i finally managed 2 buy this superb racesim! i'm glad that now i'm "part" of this comunity so i say a big HELLO 2 u racers (and drifters )!

i encounterd the problem 2 with my momo, the center point was a bit to the left, and yes i do the calibration all the time....i've download the momotweak but when i start it, guess what?: "Logitech MOMO Force Wheel not found! Please ensure it is pluggd in" What in the world is this? i mean my momo is working fine, the ffb, pedals all work great...in the game cotrollers saz its fully functional...so why that tool doesent recognize my wheel?? Momo racing black

i got the dxtweek and i think its what i wanted, i'll give it a try.

and i think i wasent clear enough...i cant do that quick calib cuz then my pedals calibrate diferent that i manualy calib them....

thx.

i have a very stressing problem with my home made pedals conected to the momo! the pedals work just fine, the problem is the calibration. after a few houres of not useing the wheel i lose the calibration to the pedals, so i have to press them and turn the wheel so it can calibrate automatically, only this time my pedals calibrate in a totaly diferent way so the pressing rage is now higher or smaller. i found a "trick" with the pots, when i spin the acceleration pot to its very limit both the pedals go 0 and then i can spin them to the rage i want them to react, so i made the acceleration a bit longer then the brake, but this "trickd" calibration loses after some houres. is there a utility that simply locks the calibration?? every time i want to play i have to strip down the pedals and "corect" theyr pot range. its very annoying, belive me. and i dont what to go back to the momo pedals because i dont like them at all. i dont know if this counts but the wheel is new..only 4 days old . Could someone plz give me some tips or help me with a utility or somthing because i'm at the end of my nervs :| sry for my english...:P and thanks in advance!

ok i give up, its photoshop...supose ur right with the 3d thing....i have a car that's made in 3d's max and im sure of that cuz i'ved spoke 2 the author...and the colors seemd exactly like on the rx7....well...back on topic now post virtual tuned cars.....

Quote from filur :

As in all areas of production, there are people with truly amazing skill (and patience), first step is tools, next step is time and talent.
http://benf07.free.fr/images/steps.jpg

yes i know that kind of work and its really photoshop

Quote from XCNuse :

http://www.digimods.co.uk/images/Vir...ondacivic4.jpg

thats photoshop..

your absolutely right! that's photoshop. that is an relatively easy creation. now go look and please make the diference between the rx7 colors/skin and the civic one. if u study a little the car's details you will se the reflactions on the car are almost perfect, and just about every single detrail of that car its perfect, the clarity its just about perfect, so go try make one like that, if u succeed i'll rise my hat in front of u. and about the reflections i know u cand make an easy water reflection but that looks allmost real, loot at the detaild reflection and road bind, try 2 think how was the station picture befor, how the road was, and so on. i'm not trying to be a hardass but from my experience in photoshop(not so big, but enough) i cannot belive that car is photoshopd(only if iths renderd in a 3d and after corected with ph )).

now i say we drop this subject, cuz like this it has no ending. And about you Jakg, try not to be so harsh.

Last edited by Alex_Tiger, Mon 20 Mar 2006, 12:47.

forget it man...photoshop doesen't know to render(only if u do it manually in 1 week)...and that colours are evin better then the original rx7. and the body that wide bodyktii its way 2 hard 2 make it with photoshop's tools... virtual tuning is basicly about copying parts from another picture and fit it into yours. only 30%max of the car is handmade.... the subaru is most likely to be made in photoshop. i admit photoshop knows 'lott of things, but that rx7 with light reflections water shadow renderd colors and huge bodykitt gets out of his league....

Kajojek u'll need at least 2-3 mounths until u can make an resonable tunned car...dont expect at much on the begining just make simple things ... and with time passing u'll discover new things to play with ) i know the program at about 60-70% of its functions, but i dont have the pacients to do somthing perfect ) now i'm not using it for tuning cars...u can modify or create just about everything with the photoshop (even undressing hot chiks )))) )

EDIT: yep the RX7 is a fake or its really made in 3d's max, although the first pic with the normal rx7 doesent reprezent anywthing... those pics doesent match....here u go:

Last edited by Alex_Tiger, Sun 19 Mar 2006, 10:26.

here are some pics edited by me long time ago(when i was virtually tuning ) ).

one of the first edited cars is an Opel Vectra...
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5631/opelvectra7gc.jpg
...then i've made an Acura Rsx...
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7073/acurafront6vw.jpg
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/9463/acurafront11lr.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/5855/acuraback6qa.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/3231/acuraback18me.jpg
...a Golf IV...
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8042/golffront3ft.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/2222/golffront12sh.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3904/golfback3yj.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6255/golfback18wa.jpg
...and finally a VW Bora...
http://img103.imageshack.us/im ... 12/volkswagenbora19vg.jpg
http://img119.imageshack.us/im ... 23/volkswagenbora22ju.jpg

hope u guys like it....i dont like them anymore ))) ...And that rx7 is made with a 3d program, i have a similer tuned car, same effects, same claritty and its made with 3d's max, so....and the subaru is photoshop made

Last edited by Alex_Tiger, Sat 18 Mar 2006, 15:55.

i think that the ffshifter simply comands the FFb of the stick to push in one direction. if u can manage to block an nonffjoystick into place on the gear botton's spot (so that its pushing the botton continuasly) it will work. i've just got myself a momo and started to make an h-shifter, so i documented myself a bitt

what do you mean by: "LFS is unrealistic"????? to me its prety much realistic, its one of the best racesims out there. by realistic u refer at exactly real life? well never gona hapen because its imposible to simulate real life things in a room at a perfect level.... 301 its a start and in my opinion its a well done conmotionsim.

simply unbeliveble. this makes u think in what a fu*kd up world we're liveing in. I'm stupefyd. like u guys sad, execute her so she can go to hell!!! illepall

Fd 301 Has:

3 degrees of freedom.
2gs of acceleration vertically.
+/-30 degrees of pitch and roll.

2 gs from a "machine" that doesent movea at all is quite a'lot

have u ever been in one of those rollercoaster simulators?? where u see the road o a screen and blabla....well its exactly the same thing only that machines produce more g forces

ithink we cannot compare the frexGP with the fd301....its just not comparable...

Last edited by Alex_Tiger, Mon 13 Mar 2006, 17:08.

Quote from Bramski :

When I first saw the FrexGP I had the same concerns about the wheel and pedals not moving and I haven't used the FrexGP Matrixi so I can't tell you for certain if they have got it right or not, but once I got my head aroung the concept it became apparent that it's more realistic for the wheel and pedals to remain stationary when you are being thrown around as this is what happens in a car when you are cornering at high speeds.

you are quite wrong. in a real car the seat is flexible? it can move around? NO. the hole thing its in one piece! the seat, pedals, wheel are all moveing at the same time. when you are buckldup in your seat u dont move very much outside the car's movement, so its wrong for the seat to move and the rest not. Sry if i exagerate, but if u wanna make a real motion simulator (simulates the reality) u got to respect the real thing piece by piece. that's what Force-Dynamics are trying to do and the 301 its a good start

Force dynamics won't make a cheap motionsim. i've read that they want somthing like "perfection". and they are very close! But i'm sure in the future (far future :razz will be a simple and most eficiant way to make one and of course, cheeper. 'till then the people with the big guns have all the fun .

the fully 301 with wheel (pedals and shifter) and screen cost around 24k, but you can buy only the frames, or only the electronics or hole system without the wheel/screen.(that's for 20k ). i think frex is a "little" baby...doesent have much room 2 move....

i've saw a homemade motionsim! a tiny little piece that supriesd me! a simple chair with 2 tiny servo based pistons and a 15inch monitor atached to the end )..., but hey.....it's homemade!

the technology keeps evolving allmost everyday so be sure one day the price wont be a pain in the ass

It's absolutly incredible!! what this guys did is a work of art. For a really high price u can get the full racing experiance at ur home! this is ......... a dream! See for yourself! i have no words left.

Force-Dynamics-rbr
Force-Dynamics-lfs-1
Force-Dynamics-lfs-2


www.force-dynamics.com

incredible work dude! you got some skills i have to admit. i am kinda' like you with the self-moding thing...i'ved transformed my simple 90degrees wheel into an 130degrees + a seqvential shifter 'n + a cluch pedal. no pics cuz lookz ugly (but works fine)! Unfortunetly i dont have the money and the materials to build somthin' like that, but sore got the "skills" Once again Congratulations 4 your work!! ...like a user sad some posts behind..."one lucky bastard"...))))

edit: i cant wait 4 that comeing movie !!! (i wanna' see how it performez' :P)

and here's mine:

Last edited by Alex_Tiger, Tue 7 Feb 2006, 11:02.