okay, lets get the predictions out the way.

LMP1 - #3 908
LMP2 - Highcroft
GT1 - Young Driver AMR
GT2 - Risi

Ye i know, all the class pole sitters but its who i would of chosen anyway

who cares about lmp1, the racing is in GT2. Go Risi!

Theres a thought, i wonder if stoner will score enough points before rossi returns

consider this thread derailed...

Practice session has started a while ago, The pugs are on top as per usual, but they are already way ahead on pace than last year even though the ACO has tryed to slow them down a bit.

In other news Grosjean has crashed his Ford GT..

Quote from tristancliffe :

That's what punctuation is for......

note the ',' Also note me saying i could of worded it better... Seriously, have you nothing better to do?

Quote from Dygear :

Shin and Tibula are the same thing.

i know, you're reading it wrong/i coulda worded it better

Quote from Storm_Cloud :

Garry McCoy has left FB Corse now... coincidence?

When McCoy was making monkeys of the best riders in the world in 2000 (albeit largely due to his genius switch to 16" wheels) he was riding a Red Bull Yamaha.

Colin's contractual commitments could be worked around, as could the rules that block Spies' move up. Toseland would be a retrograde step. Crutchlow? Maybe in Tech 3 if Colin moved.

There's one guy who's free that can still rip the track up; former MotoGP winner and WSB champ - Mr T. Bayliss. That would be mega.

out of all of those, McCoy sounds most likely. I don't see any of the Tech 3 guys moving tbh, well maybe edwards. The WSB boys will stay put because they have their own championship to think of and Bayliss is Ducati through n through, but i guess Schumi was Ferrari for life too so don't count it out too soon.

yeah edwards is tech 3 not yamaha. Agostini is gonna ride for them last i heard

he got a £155 fine plus court charges and a 1 month ban from driving in britain..

http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2010/5/10806.html

Q: Who is your dream date?
RB: The way the question is put it obviously has to be a woman and you have plenty of faces that you would love to have opposite you at the table, even though my wife wouldn’t let me. But someone I really would love to have a chat with is Tiger Woods

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QKOr_nP_Q

197mph on public roads.

ah that sucks then, and no, i shaln't change my avatar, i love him!

Rossi had a big highside in Mugello during saturday practice. Broke his shin, tibula and fibula.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/h ... rt/motorbikes/8723843.stm

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it also ensures victory..

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So if it can't be proven either way, why are you confident enough to call me stupid over it?

Because i'm pretty confident it is a coded message, as is pretty much everybody but you.

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What difference does it make when every round counts for the championship, a poor result early on can cost a championship later on despite a strong run at the end of the season, Felipe Massa in 2008 being an example. Button can't afford to take one for the team at any time if he wants to retain his championship, especially this year with Red Bull more threatening then ever.

There needs to be less of an obsession with constructors and more emphasis on the drivers who are the ones doing the racing, racing is after all is what everyone supposedly turns up for.

The difference is that the true positions will play out near the end of the season. Thats the whole point of a championship system. It's like basing the whole of 09 on spa where Force India and Ferrari were in contention for the win, that had no bearing on what happened in the rest of the season. Early in the season it's about getting the results instead of being like Jenson Button who would risk it for a chocolate biscuit.

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I think Button was guilty of not understanding what the team really meant. Or perhaps he pretend he didn't.

He had his one go, and he backed right off after his one and only go failed. Perhaps more was said on the radio than just the fuel saving is "critical".

I think he pretended tbh, Jenson isn't stupid and even in a post race interview he was asked, was the fuel saving mode code for hold position he replied "well if it is nobody told me" but it just sounded a bit sly to me. Then after he had his go they re-itterrated that fuel is critical. Thats the key part to me which proves it was all just code to hold position.

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How can you be so sure that it really had a hidden meaning? For all you know it might be genuine, but again that wouldn't suit your argument so it gets overlooked.

How can you be so sure it didn't?

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Ah yes because Button is surely guilty of the crime of being a racing driver. Ridiculous.

Good on him really, he shouldn't let himself be held back for Hamilton's sake I can understand why he acted the way he did.

Button is guilty of not being a team player. Simple.

Like i said, 5 races to go i would understand your point, but so early in the season, along with what happened to the RBRs, Button was wrong.

Quote from 5haz :

Its common sense that teams are going to put as little fuel in as they can get away with, so what would make a fuel problem so impossible?

How the **** is Jenson being an arse towards his teammate, hes racing him! What part of that is so unacceptable?

Indeed it is common sense however them both having this fuel problem and it being critical etc, your not understand what the fuel problem message really meant.

It's unacceptable when your twisting what the team has said and what the rules say with regards to team orders to make yourself look like the innocent party in all of this.

Quote from 5haz :

For starters the Mclarens should not be holding for fuel, its a ****ing sprint race for the millionth time. So what if there is a weight advantage there should be enough fuel for the cars to finish a race at full possible pace. And even if it was a coded message its a race nontheless and nobody should be holding back when there are positions to be gained!

In the push to save weight teams are always going to cut it too fine with fuel loads, so I wouldn't be suprised if it wasn't a coded message at all.

all of the above is your stupidity in thinking the McLarens ACTUALLY had a fuel problem.

Lewis is a team player so long as it means he gets to win. I think you mean Lewis wanted to play the fix a race game but Button didnt.

How so? other than in Lewis' first season i can't remember him being such an arse towards his team mate like Jenson was. Not to mention the fact he is also talking about the Constructors championship more than the drivers championship so far this season.

Button did his job as a proper racing driver fighting for a championship, not a puppet on a string. The increasing emphasis on the constructors championship is also another reason the racing has become watered down, drivers should have more independance to race.

May be so but the emphasis on the constructors championsip is what gave us that 4 way battle with the McLarens and RBRs, then the lack of emphasis on that gave us Vettel and Webber's moment of idiocy.

I think you've all forgotten how a competetive individual sport works, F1 is a team sport in some respects but it should remain an individual one in others.

Yes, right now it is a team sport, 5 races to go it becomes and individual sport.

Quote from 5haz :

If you weren't such a moron you'd read the next few paragraphs, but that wouldn't suit your agrument would it? You even deliberately left it out with a pause at the end just so you could twist what I said, you mong.

Happy?

Quote from 5haz :

For starters the Mclarens should not be holing for fuel, its a ****ing sprint race for the millionth time. So what if there is a weight advantage there should be enough fuel for the cars to finish a race at full possible pace.
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Wow, you really are stupid aren't you.

Wow 5haz you are either stupid or just plain ignorant.

The McLaren drivers were told to hold position via "fuel saving". I doubt that they got it so wrong on fuel tbh.

Lewis clarified this hold position message by asking if Button was going to pass him. Obviously looking to see whether it's a problem with his car or it's a coded message. Lewis understood it was a coded message but Button didn't. Lewis is a team player and at this stage of the season it's all about the constructors championship he knows that but Button doesn't seem to or chose not to. Jenson basically disobeyed team orders, yes that satanic element of F1, hence Lewis was pissed.

I don't think Lewis' dad leaving him as manager has affected him this season. I don't think anythng really has changed apart from Lewis seeming a lot calmer out the cockpit and a lot more 'open' with his choice of words in the cockpit.

meh, like i said before, Jenson is a prick. He's not stupid, he was playing dumb and twisting words/the situation. Apparently though, thats a load of horse shit

while i agree it's vettels fault, it's not 100% his fault because Webber is his team mate. But people seem to be deciding to neglect that.

Quote from JPeace :

What was Vettels gesture to the camera's as he got out of the car and taken his helmet off? To me it seemed that it made no sense at all.

it made no sense to him either.