I must have typed the wrong thing then "op stand for", and I got a list with tens of possibilities...
Thanks for the answer.

Here are four images from my design, each is one page, taken randomly from the pdf (pdf is 19 pages long):
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9682/bokujishindesign01.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img ... 6/bokujishindesign01v.jpg
http://img686.imageshack.us/im ... 5/bokujishindesign03d.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7831/bokujishindesign04.jpg
And finally a render from 3ds max:
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/471/lfscockpitrender1.jpg

If someone wants to build this, just ask for the pdf.
Feel free to show it elsewhere, but please at least write my name.

Well, at least he did a good job recreating it, I think it can be more difficult than to create something from scratch (except if blueprints/dimensions can be found).
But in the end, aoun chose him, so I guess this is it.
Anyway, S2 is good enough for me (as a demo), and it was more a challenge for myself than for the prize, even if it motivated me (free update to S3 when it is released, and aoun even said my design looked professional, that's not bad) .

So finally the results
Well, I'm really happy to be the runner up (I will have a S2 license, at last!) but I am a bit disappointed, as tonix's design came out of nowhere, whereas you said in the competition thread that we had to post it...
However, I must admit it is very good and well designed too, our designs are quite similar but his looks more like the picture (that he of course tried to recreate). As I look at his design, I have a question to ask tonix: Did you use Solidworks for your design? Looking at the edges, it seems to be from a CAD software, but somehow does not look like Inventor (which I used).

Anyway, I am still pleased to have participated in this competition, as it enabled me to improve on the softwares I use, and also to create something for the first time. By the way, I'm going to remove my pdf from the other thread, and will give it to anyone who wants to build my cockpit, but I will still post images of what it looks like.

Thanks again for the competition, I'm looking forward to see the winner's cockpit built!
(and of course waiting for my license )

EDIT: concerning the software question: or is it Sketchup?
EDIT: Another render from 3ds max, with the model imported from Inventor:
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/471/lfscockpitrender1.jpg

Last edited by Bokujishin, Sun 29 Nov 2009, 09:24.

Quote from niels1 :

Bloody nice job there !!!!
Well deserved winner if ya aske me !!!!

Now thats taking a OP serious and making a build plan, top notch

Once again, thanks for the comments!
By the way, what does OP stand for? I searched a bit on google, but there were so many possibilities...

Quote from (The Stig) :

Just some Idea's.

1. Why don't you use a F1 Bulit or Adapted Shase?
   
2. And also if you want a F1 feel to it get some F1 parts and connect a master computer to LFS then away you GO!!!.

Yeah, good idea, there even is a real F1 cockpit in Lyon, France (from a simulator), where he could get some parts...
This competition is here in order to give something back to the community in exchange for a cockpit design, not for some "ideas".

Anyway, still some suspense aoun?

Oh no, I was hoping for the results to be posted, and you tell us you have decided but not written yet... Please
Oh, and once you anounced the winner and runner up, as one is from a PM, I hope you will show his design to us.

See you soon for the results.

No problem, real life is more important than games etc.
However, I'm starting to get anxious too... I hope we will see you soon for the results.

EDIT: I believe you will use the second post that you reserved to anounce the results, won't you?
I just wanted to know if you were going to simply put the names of the winner and runner up, or if you will make a recap of all the entries before that.
I think a quick recap of the participants/entries could be good to see the different works.

Last edited by Bokujishin, Sun 22 Nov 2009, 17:14.

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

bmwtwins already has a s2, I think that Bokujishin should get a reward for his hard work.

I really like Bokujishin's idea, I think that im going to make one like this if I can find good wood in our garage. (I also thank him for this design)

Thanks a lot! I'm happy to see many people like my design
But the one to decide will be aoun, so I guess we will have to wait a bit until he anounces the results...

I think he said sunday evening, Australia time.
This means tomorrow morning in Europe, I'd say in more or less 15 hours.
I believe we can say "soon" then

EDIT: By the way, here is the pdf with the general dimensions included.
It now is my real final entry.

EDIT 2: Removed the pdf from here too, please go to page 6.

Last edited by Bokujishin, Wed 25 Nov 2009, 16:31.

Any news Aoun?
It's been almost two months since this contest started, so I just wanted to know if it will end soon or in a few weeks?

As I'm done with my design, I will just add: good luck to everyone who is participating!

I just noticed I have not included the overall dimensions of the cockpit, so here they are:
Length: approximately 166cm with the wing, 161cm at ground level up to the screen shelf.
Width: 92cm with keyboard inside (rear end of the sides), 123cm with keyboard outside. Around the screen support, it is 40cm wide (just enough for the pedals to fit in).
Height: 100cm.
These are approximations, the true dimensions are smaller by 0,1 to 0,9cm.
This was just so you get an idea of the place it takes

Thanks a lot for the comments
Here is the final version of my design (except if I have to do something for the seat).

EDIT: I removed the pdf file, as I updated it and posted it again in my last post.

Last edited by Bokujishin, Sat 21 Nov 2009, 17:48.

Sorry, I couldn't finish in time... I attached a link to a pdf with what I've done so far.
I will need 2 or 3 more days of work on it to finish those blueprints.
I still have to do the same thing with the rear and upper parts, as well as the wing, and then to write all the details I can think of.

EDIT: pdf removed, please go to page 6 to see the design.

Last edited by Bokujishin, Wed 25 Nov 2009, 16:30.

I just thought of another question: do you need something in the cockpit to put your seat on? If you do, I would need to know how it can be fixed to the cockpit, and also some dimensions.
Else, I will just continue the detailed blueprints, and probably show them tomorrow.

I improved two parts of the design: the hinge lock for the wheel shelf and the "anti-fall security" of the keyboard.
Here are 3 pictures with them:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5960/hingelock.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3450/keyboard1wp.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2394/keyboard2.jpg
When you put the wheel shelf on the gaming position, you don't have to hold it anymore, just put it down and it will be placed correctly. Then you just have to lock the hinge with a cylinder or something.
As for the keyboard shelf, the little parts are longer, and the shelf cannot fall anymore when it slides. However, this also means you would have to place it and then screw the security parts on the shelf.
I am currently struggling with the constraints in Inventor, but I should be able to finish it in time.

Quote from Commander :

Apart from that I do not know whether it is easy to get in and out this is looking very very nice. What I personally do not like is the boxy look of some of these wooden cockpits, so your version really does overcome the disadvantages mdf has over tubeframes

Quote from JasonJ :

Getting in and out of a Single Seater type model (which is what Aoun wants I think) will always be difficult. But Bokujishin's design has a good idea to overcome that. The wheel lifts up which will give more room to stand up and climb out.

Thanks a lot, it is the first time a work of mine gets positive reactions like this
My work on Inventor is not finished yet, but I will present the finished version on sunday or before, with the full details (or at least aoun will have them) and some animations (if I can) of the character getting in/out of the cockpit.
I also added a second security to the keyboard shelf, at the opposite side. It should prevent the shelf from falling if you do not slide it all the way inside the cockpit (I might make it even longer for more security).

Quote from aoun :

Maybe something to go with my new wheel someone is creating for me.

I that another contest?
I hope your new wheel has dimensions similar to the G25, otherwise I would need to fine-tune some parts of my design.
Do you have an idea of the deadline? If there is some time left, I may be able to improve my entry with Inventor.

Quote from Scawen :

I don't know why they can't just send text input in the codepage you have currently selected. So when you select Japanese language, it would assume that you want the selected program to receive Japanese language. Sounds simple enough and sensible, even obvious - unless I am missing something - but maybe they really want to make it hard for people who don't buy XP and developers who don't use Unicode, so they provided the bare minimum of support.

Thanks for your answer.
I totally agree with you about the way this is done, and I also think the possibility to choose which non-unicode applications have to use a specific language should be an option to set, so we can mix several languages.
Even though it will make my computer display weird things, I will try to set japanese as the default language, and see what happens.

Quote from Bmxtwins :

As for my design" Simplicity is the mother of invention "- Someone lol
on the other hand Bokujishin's looks very intricate and hard to design.

You have a point.
I did not do mine thinking about simplicity, but thinking about the "open-wheeler feeling" aoun asked, and I think I managed to recreate this. But you're right, it is a bit complicated (especially for the keyboard support, spent a few days thinking ).
Whether I can win or not, I will soon proceed with the placement of the screws and get the exact dimensions, as it will look better after that (it is supposed to, at least).
The design itself, however, should stay as it is now (except if I find something to change).

Quote from R.Kolz :

You should post all your mail received entries in this thread as well - for various reasons.

+1, the names of the participants and pictures of their entries should be posted here, as you asked us to do so

I have some problems with japanese input in LFS.
First, I have the same problem as you had, Scawen with the question marks instead of kana and kanji. You solved it by setting japanese as the default for non-unicode applications. Is this the only way to do it? Being French, if I do this, kanji appear instead of characters like à é è etc. in other applications and some fonts become strange.
The second problem is this:

This message appears each time I select an alternative conversion for kana/kanji (with spacebar). I do not think it is related to the question marks, because it also happens when I type romaji (latin characters).

Quote from logitekg25 :

thats amazing

Quote from blakehoo88 :

good work, i think you win so far

Thanks a lot for the comments

Quote from Bmxtwins :

was making my design a waste of time? Because ive been done with it for a while

Why do you say that? I think aoun just wants to have more people taking part in this, and will probably wait some other entries (after all, it is running since last month).

I now have finished my design (still didn't add the screws though):
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9307/bokujishinlfsc01k.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3748/bokujishinlfsc02.jpg
I sent you a PM with explanations about it.

EDIT: Woops, I forgot to say the dimensions were in cm.

Last edited by Bokujishin, Sun 1 Nov 2009, 10:47.

I don't have a wheel myself, but I have already looked at the wheel settings in lfs, and I think there's an option to combine/separate axes. However, your problem with the steering is quite... strange

And I thought the ugly reflections (distorted etc.) were just there because of the 3D model of the cars and the smoothing of the faces... but in fact, it is due to the texture that reflects on it?
Can't wait till the new pack, it looks amazingly real!
And please take your time for your movie, it's better late and good looking

Just another question: do you drive with the shifter to your right or to your left? As you're Australian, I think it is to your left, but I'd rather have this confirmed.

Last edited by Bokujishin, Fri 30 Oct 2009, 00:24. Reason : typing mistake...