Quote from tolas :

Will it be ever possible to import track and car models into max with all telemetry data for cars(not just car trajectory)?

I was wondering if it will be possible to create prerendered videos in 3ds max based on LFS models and telemetry one day?

I guess I can only say I want this to be possible, already been wondering if it was possible to get the rotation of the wheels via insim so we could have the whole car animated in 3ds max.

Quote from Flame CZE :

Yes, but isn't it because the wheel is spinning? But I am confused now :P

Quote from Amynue :

Here is another video in a bit better quality and with better lighting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3KshKS_tvo

If I'm not mistaken, accelerating, with or without spinning, produces similar forces on the tyre, and Amynue's video shows an almost no spinning example.

In case some people still doubt the wheel is rotating clockwise, here's a proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ug6w4ZjwVo
Take a look at 0:47, in this case the wheel rotates CCW and the thicker part of the tyre is on the left, so in the other picture, thicker part on the right -> wheel rotating CW

This is a very nice tool Victor

By the way, is there any way to animate the "active camera" state or do we have to record multiple segments to get all the cameras?

Wow, thanks for the report, Scawen, some nice work we got there

Quote from GenesisX :

Annoying yes, but the last few posts have really been getting off-topic.

So "last few posts" means "tens of pages"?
I don't remember reading much posts on topic, except a few following Scawen's, and some random posts every 5 pages...

By the way, shouldn't this thread be renamed "General discussion while waiting for new tyre physics patch"?

Simple indeed, no big FX, yet I think it's very nice
However, maybe you should have kept the music from 0:32 to 1:18 through the whole video, I somehow feel the transition between the two muscis is too sharp.
By the way, what's the name of this second music?
EDIT: My bad, didn't watch the credits.

Last edited by Bokujishin, Mon 15 Feb 2010, 08:46.

I can't help with this at all, but the idea is brilliant, it could bring a lot of fun on the servers.
If you want to detect collisions between cars, just ask the devs, they do it in the training (joke).

Good luck to those who will try to code that

Quote from Forbin :

Excellent priorities, my friend. :rolleyes:

True, it's just I was curious about it
At the moment, if you make your wheels spin too much, you will have an ugly cloud of smoke at the back of your car, due to the accumulation of "smoke sprites?".
The new smoke looks softer and no longer like it is now, but I'm afraid that burning your tyres will result in a thick fog, so that's why I wanted a video.

But of course the priority is the behavior of the new physics, and a patch...

As for the release date contest, I'd say something between 2 months and 2 years, but more seriously, I'd say at least 3-4 months.

I just wanted to bump this thread to ask something to the devs (if they read what's written here):
Coud you please show some screens or a short video of the new physics, more precisely the smoke? The one I saw from the progress report looks very different, and I would like to see how it looks like in more details.

Keep up the good work on the physics

You've all been arguing and this is the only thing we can see since page 10 or something like that. You guys should take a break
LFS is a game, but it has good physics and that helps people being closer to real life. However, even with a dynamic cockpit (I mean one that moves around) you can't feel like you really are driving a real car. But you can at least use your hands and your feet like you would in LFS (if you have a wheel...) so it truly helps in real life, although it's very different.

Now getting back on topic, I too would like to have a test patch with the new physics and scirocco, because yes, I really want them, but also because people could find bugs. Now I know we may have to wait for a long time, and I can understand it, and I'll wait for the next progress report, if there is one.

My favourite cars:
Nissan Skyline R34:

And the R35:

I want DOF to see how it feels to drive without my glasses
As some others said, I wouldn't want it while driving, but I think some motion blur could be cool, though, because it's not limited to cameras, as your eyes see fast moving things blurred too.

An even easier way to get rid of the handbrake is to stall while on the grid. This way you don't move at all and you then just have to build your revs.

Quote from SL1DE :

you can make a silly cockpit and look at a stooge or you can buy a real car...

thats my opinion, i'd prefer the buy a real car option.

Yay, that's cool for you
aoun decided he wanted to build a cockpit, it's his opinion too.

Thanks Takumi, but aoun will indeed give me a S2 voucher for being second
Aoun, I think what made people react like this is the fact that tonix's design "appeared" when you anounced the results, and nobody knew he was participating, because his design was not posted in the competition thread, while mine and Bmxtwins's were there for a few weeks.
In the end, your choice is the official one, of course, but at first, it looked like a "simple" copy of the picture you posted, so people reacted to that. More pictures of his design maybe could stop this, and you don't have to decide not to organize your next competition because of this one.
Or I would like to know what you were going to organize it about...
Oh, one other thing, you said the £36 voucher was the minimum prize, did tonix get more, or would I have got more if I had won (as you said it looked professional)? (just a matter of curiosity here).

PS: I ask again if you can change my picture for the results, please, here it is (it's a raw render from 3ds max, the design itself is exactly the same as in Inventor, while the one posted is a rough model):
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/471/lfscockpitrender1.jpg

Quote from Ziploc :

It would be nice if we could get some slightly better plans to build these.

You can see mine on the competition thread (a preview, at least).
I'm okay with giving my pdf to whoever wants it (I would be really happy to see it built too :razz.
I can't wait for my voucher, and I'm also looking forward to see the building of your cockpit, aoun.

Quote from Neto_r :

just one little thing

how many degrees, its necesary for the pedals, from the floor

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3262/pedalsq.jpg

45ª ? 30ª ?

mine´s are horizontal with the floor


Regards

I just noticed this post, so here is my answer:
The shelf is 25° from the floor. I looked at pictures of existing cockpits or gaming seats for this, and it looked like several have the pedals positionned like this.

Thanks to all the people who like my design, it was worth making it.
By the way aoun, I rendered a new picture of my design, could you put it in the results instead of the one we can see at the moment?
Here it is:
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/471/lfscockpitrender1.jpg
I thought of it when I saw the picture you had chosen, it is the one without chamfers etc, and is not the real one.
The one I posted is the accurate one, just rendered quickly to make it look a bit better.

Making a progress report is a very good idea, this way we know more precisely what you are doing/working on at the moment, which is very good.
Is the smoke we can see on the picture from the Z28 news already updated, or is it something we will have in a future patch?

Anyway, keep up the good work, you guys are awesome

Looks like I finish 2nd though, the results are in a new thread.
Winner's design look very good indeed, I'm happy aoun said it was hard for him to choose the winner

I must have typed the wrong thing then "op stand for", and I got a list with tens of possibilities...
Thanks for the answer.

Here are four images from my design, each is one page, taken randomly from the pdf (pdf is 19 pages long):
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9682/bokujishindesign01.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img ... 6/bokujishindesign01v.jpg
http://img686.imageshack.us/im ... 5/bokujishindesign03d.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7831/bokujishindesign04.jpg
And finally a render from 3ds max:
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/471/lfscockpitrender1.jpg

If someone wants to build this, just ask for the pdf.
Feel free to show it elsewhere, but please at least write my name.

Well, at least he did a good job recreating it, I think it can be more difficult than to create something from scratch (except if blueprints/dimensions can be found).
But in the end, aoun chose him, so I guess this is it.
Anyway, S2 is good enough for me (as a demo), and it was more a challenge for myself than for the prize, even if it motivated me (free update to S3 when it is released, and aoun even said my design looked professional, that's not bad) .

So finally the results
Well, I'm really happy to be the runner up (I will have a S2 license, at last!) but I am a bit disappointed, as tonix's design came out of nowhere, whereas you said in the competition thread that we had to post it...
However, I must admit it is very good and well designed too, our designs are quite similar but his looks more like the picture (that he of course tried to recreate). As I look at his design, I have a question to ask tonix: Did you use Solidworks for your design? Looking at the edges, it seems to be from a CAD software, but somehow does not look like Inventor (which I used).

Anyway, I am still pleased to have participated in this competition, as it enabled me to improve on the softwares I use, and also to create something for the first time. By the way, I'm going to remove my pdf from the other thread, and will give it to anyone who wants to build my cockpit, but I will still post images of what it looks like.

Thanks again for the competition, I'm looking forward to see the winner's cockpit built!
(and of course waiting for my license )

EDIT: concerning the software question: or is it Sketchup?
EDIT: Another render from 3ds max, with the model imported from Inventor:
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/471/lfscockpitrender1.jpg

Last edited by Bokujishin, Sun 29 Nov 2009, 09:24.

Quote from niels1 :

Bloody nice job there !!!!
Well deserved winner if ya aske me !!!!

Now thats taking a OP serious and making a build plan, top notch

Once again, thanks for the comments!
By the way, what does OP stand for? I searched a bit on google, but there were so many possibilities...