Sorry to hear that. I still remember when we lost our middle cat like it was yesterday (was 5 or so years ago now). I had dreams about it afterwards too, where he was speaking to me in English and saying that I should have saved him. Which obviously made it even worse.

The Proving Grounds track is pretty good in Forza 2 - there's several really good configs on it for the slow-medium powered cars. The long track (Black Mamba I think it's called) isn't great though - it's too long for the slow cars, but much too twisty for the fast ones. Would probably be a good one for drifters though.

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im going to work as a hooker .

Yes, but what are you doing for Halloween?

To discourage people from buying it second hand. This way, the codes can only be used once, presumably that'll be by the person who buys the game new.

We're playing a gig this Hallowe'en, and we're currently looking to do it in full costume. Proper cliche stuff though - our bassist is going as a wolfman, which isn't actually that much of a costume for him
I'm supposed to be going as Dracula, but I haven't looked into buying the stuff for it yet (and it'd be hard to sing with fangs in). I'd prefer something a bit cooler.

I guess it depends. You can LFSUI as long as everyone else is prepared for it. If you're risking screwing up someone's race just because you're on the piss, then you should steer clear.

And who says that just because you're playing LFS you're alone? I could drink and play LFS and still, by the miracle of actually living with my girlfriend, not be alone

That's not a big deal - you won't have time to get sick of the disc content before the US launch anyway

I'm just pleased that us Euros are getting a game first for once!

Just announced free DLC at launch - two tracks and 10 cars.

1957 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
1960 Chevrolet Corvette
1964 Aston Martin DB5 Vantage
1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA
1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe
1967 Lamborghini Miura P400
1969 Dodge Charger
1971 Nissan Skyline 2000 GT-R
1980 Fiat 131 Abarth
1981 BMW M1

Tracks are Benchmark High Speed Ring (an airfield) and the Sidewinder Proving Grounds (which I believe is the 18-config test track in Forza 2).

EDIT: Beaten to it, but my post is way more awesome

It's odd. Those shots do look like they've removed some details that were in FM2. But for the extra detail on the track itself and the cars (which are the important parts) I think it'll be alright. Plus, they don't show what it's like moving. If - for example - the grandstands are smaller but full of moving people, that'll be much better than massive stands full of static sprites, right?

But the extra detail on the track does make a massive difference. I always felt FM2 was a little stale and static, whereas the FM3 demo (admittedly only one track, but still) feels much more lively.

Until you have the keys, they can pretty much do what they like with it. I very much doubt they'll go round thrashing the crap out of it though. They're just moving it from one place to the other. It's not like it'll even do motorway miles or anything - it'll be small journeys from factory to transport to storage.

You might be getting a dirty cheese-eating surrender-monkey car, but I'm pretty sure they know what to do with new vehicles - they have been on the go for a while

Mad buggers, but good luck to the lot of you

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Ah, the M3 E92. I take it you ordered it from Game then? I picked that one too as that Paintjob for the M3 looks really nice.

Sure did. Prefer the Evo that Gamestation was offering, but wanted my loyalty points

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You should definitely take the day off.

I want to, but got practically no holidays left!

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I actually have a hospital appt the day it comes out, I reckon the hospital could be REALLY busy that day and may even mean I never get to work.......

That's tough. I know what hospital waiting rooms can be like. You can be in there for days sometimes
Hey, maybe I have a diabetic appointment that day. In fact, now that I mention it I'm fairly sure that I have some sort of medical appointment that day. What a terrible coincidence...

It might be real, but I'm pretty sure those cars will have registered a couple of miles before they get stored in there, and will likely register another couple before they reach any customers.

Fine by me. I'm approaching my 100 limit though, so I might need to go removing some people before I add you. Got dozens of requests via Trials HD but those guys never seem to speak or play anything else so I might as well chuck 'em.

I fully expect to spend way more time playing Forza 3 online with people. And I just pre-ordered a few minutes ago so will get a lovely M3 E92 to play with too. Now, should I take the day off or not?

I don't think the two things were related. He said do a dickhead competition so that he'd win something. Then he moved on to vote for people. Should've done it in the other order, but I don't think any offense was actually meant by it.

It has to come off the factory line and be put ONTO any delivery vehicle. I also expect they need to check that everything works too. Lowest new car I've ever seen had 8 miles on the clock.

Well balls. Maybe it's just because I suck. What happened to me? I was really good at gaming a few years back. Maybe I just need more practice

For you youngsters maybe, gaming is hard for us oldies

Is everyone waiting to try and get 666?

I'm still hoping like hell that this sudden obsession with motion control doesn't take off. Sometimes, and that's most of the time, I play games to unwind. I do it to relax. I do it after a day at work or a long day working with the band. I'm tired. I want to be able to play a game without having to use up more energy.

Just because some gamers are lard-ass unhealthy exercise-starved bloat-tards doesn't mean that everyone should be punished for it.

Sure, sometimes you get a nice extra level of immersion from motion controls (despite lacking decent tactile feedback), but the option to disable it needs to also be included.

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And murdering prostitutes.

Oh no you dit'n't!

So I did some more runs on the demo against a ghost and managed to get a time in the top 7% in the good old Evo X. Ranked 26076th Can't seem to get above the top 35% or so in the others though, and really suck in the Porsche.

Colin did compete in Dakar and X-Games a couple of times, as well as things like Race of Champions. But I agree that it wasn't a bit enough part of his racing career to make such a big game feature.

But then you diversify to reach a bigger audience, don't you? American kids will know Ken Block and Dave Mirra while they likely won't know Colin that well. It's a shame, but form a business perspective I can understand it. Would still be nice if they offered DLC so you could customise your own experience - more point-to-point for the rally fans and more cross events for those meddling kids

It's related to how the console sends FFB info. I'm sure I explained this somewhere else before The console doesn't send normal FFB info, it sends different data that needs to be translated by the wheel, so most wheels can't do it. Or something like that anyway.

I'm still trying to pick between this and this for my pre-order bonus.
I reckon the GAME one is going to win out, since I'll also get my loyalty points for it

How about old school folks like me who don't have wussy driving aids like ABS? Do I benefit more from a better quality tyre?