What the hell are you on about?
Stop comparing airplanes to road going machines.



Look carefully at this picture and tell me that it has a low AoA.

The profile of an aircraft is completely different and should not be compared, as they work in two different ways.

EDIT: Yes, Of course the first element has a low AoA, otherwise it would produce more drag, that's why the then tip of it is quite long and steep.

Downforce is not about pushing air up, it's getting the optimal flow so you have a whole lot of downforce with as little drag as possible.

Last edited by Dennis93, Tue 11 Mar 2014, 11:14.

Hmmm.

Just looks like he does a lot of 'useless' handwork.

Coming from a F3 driver I must say that your knowledge of downforce is quite disappointing.

Youtube link?

"Time" huhu.

Here is some more useful stuff for this thread : https://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=28912

Quote from Forbin :

Put another way, have you ever seen a spinning Formula car lift off? (disregarding the Weber case in which contact was made)

Yes, However there was contact, but most other liftoffs, such as Nascar, contact has always been made otherwise it was blown tires etc, but It's quite common for Formula Cars also to lift off.

Last edited by Dennis93, Mon 10 Mar 2014, 14:58.

Such precise

That's manly.

It'a quite odd, i find mu Coquette to be quite competitive with anything in sports, have never lost to the carbonizzare anyways oh well, let the testing commence.

it's quite a beautiful thing when it's considered 2 inches and sort of bent to the right.

Ends on a Go Kart track

Does anyone have a estimate on the best garage yet, car class wise?

I have :

Cheetah (My favourite Super)
Sabra (good in muscle class)
Elegy (good without corners)
Bifta (good)
Rebel (decent, but useless)
Hotknife (useless)
Carbon RS (Semi)
Coquette (Very good)
Zion (pwetty good)
Kalahari (For Fun)

(all cars are bought)

Hi, I think it's very old and very outdated, don't think you can find such things anymore.. or discuss it since it's a pretty sensitive matter for lfs when someone makes something for it.

Woo

I want that Alpha in some weird way....

Quote from [RF]-art555 :

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Glad to see that you're okay after all this!

gullible people are easy to cheat, sadly.

Nice video !
- And thanks.

Last edited by Dennis93, Tue 25 Feb 2014, 13:50.

It's just the RPM matching the Hertz recorded in the camera.. thus it looks like it stands still...

jesus..

I don't get your post, or what you're trying to make of it, apart from typical journalism?

Quote from amp88 :

If you look at my posts you'll see that the only power number which I've represented as being solid in any way is the 700hp figure which is from a Mercedes engineer. Everything else that I've said is questioning the legitimacy of making unqualified assertions and providing reasons why I think it's naive to try and draw direct comparisons between engines with approximately 25 years between them.

Of course, it's impossible to relate power numbers of any kind from 20+ years ago. even the last 10 years, engines have revolutionized quite a bit.

However, a rough number of 700bhp, I don't think it should be believable, of course, it is the only number you have now therefore it's quite simple; That's what you use.

But I think realistically, we're looking at some numbers inbetween 640-720bhp.

Quote from amp88 :

I think the statement from the Mercedes engineer (in conjunction with the 22 km/h higher top speeds than last year at such an early stage in the season) is reasonable evidence to believe that the power units this year are making as much as (if not more than) they did last year.

Absolutely, I think the power units create more power than last year. with the reduced downforce and even less drag now, Monza is going to become dangerously fast.

Quote from amp88 :

I think it's fair to assume that the power figure quoted by the Mercedes engineer is in an environment where most of the running will occur. The fact that most F1 races take place in locations and at times of year where ambient temperatures are around 25-30C means it's likely this will be the sort of environment where much of the engine testing will have taken place in dyno rooms. Sure, the engines will be able to make more power on a cold British day at near sea level than on a 35C day at high altitude in Brazil, but for most of the season the cars will be running in around 25-30C ambient temperatures.

k. however humidity has a big factor as well.

Quote from amp88 :

The only direct power figure I've used is from a Mercedes engineer.

Don't rely too much on it!!

Last edited by Dennis93, Tue 25 Feb 2014, 12:16.

I find it quite interesting, that you guys in a way state conspiracies, or make them up yourselves.

I'm pretty sure what you're trying to understand is something that F1 teams haven't really gotten to grips with entirely.

Until something official comes out, engine power remains a mystery, and on the race day the engine output will be much different from the numbers that you're getting.

You're simply forgetting the sensitivity of a turbo engine; how it works with condensed/cold/hot/dry weather.

Sure it may in the bench have something like 700bhp, but that's a static temperature, in Bahrain on a hot day (+30C) it may have 650bhp.

I think the numbers you're trying to 'mathematically reach based on false/fake data' are quite impossible for the time being, especially for someone who has NO DIRECT LINKS to Formula 1.

But keep chasing, eventually someone will have done all the hard work for you.

Quote from Mustafur :

I think its fixed boost.

"Fixed"...

Interesting Must've been close!

Lol, who finished 2nd?