I did not know I had put a hidden message about that in my reply about his G25 question

Hi and welcome to LFS from me aswell!

The G25 does an auto calibration each time you either plug it in, or turn your computer on (with the G25 allready plugged in)

It determines the full locks to both sides and the center position.

AFAIK you cannot turn this off as it is necessary for the G25 to perform this calibration to make
it function properly

Well, it seems my G25 is suffering from the same dreaded reverse problem too now.

It was fine at first, yet all of a sudden it doesnt recognise reverse gear anymore...

I can see it goes into the correct slot, cause the sticks sits lower in R than it does in 6th.. But it just says 6th gear no matter what I try

I'd send it back for a replacement but I am kind of reluctant to do so, with my luck I'd end up with one of them that has left rotation über-noise, or shoddy finishing on paddles or leather etc.. (somehow I never get lucky with hardware, always something wrong)
And apart from this my unit is perfect aswell..

I read about opening it and fixing the problem... does anyone know if this can be done without anyone over at logitech spotting my DYI work? Or will I forfeit my warranty when I try to (careful and sensibly) fix it myself?

Edit: oh.. and welcome aboard mike

Last edited by DFS_MadFred, Mon 25 Dec 2006, 17:08.

Doh, I totally overlooked that when I went through that file.. :doh:

thanks very much!!

Thanks mate, that's it I guess

I'm not sure though how to input some of them, as they dont work.

Like, what do I put in for shift+key?

for instance, if I want shift F, to turn the screen info on and off, what would I put there?

I tried using /press shift+f and /press shift f and also holding down shift and pressing f,
so that it says "/press F"

all give me an "invalid parameter" error (or whatever that would translate to from dutch ingame...)

This is probably a stupid question with an obvious answer, but humor me!

Any thoughts, anyone?

Last edited by DFS_MadFred, Sat 23 Dec 2006, 17:36.

Hi,

This must have been asked before but I could not find a clear answer yet.

How do I map (some of) the reserved keys to the buttons on a controler, in my case, a G25

I read something about a command like "/press (keystroke)"
Can someone tell me how to do this, or where to enter this, please?

Thanks in advance, sorry if I missed something that's obvious. I just couldn't find it with the forum search or by reading the docs that came with LFS.

Regards,

MadFred

I don't like the idea, and I will not use it if it is available.

But I would not really mind if it would be there, although there should, as mentioned before, only be certain aspects forced, so that people can adjust the things necessary to suit their controller. Unless of course it means I have less and less servers to choose from if this, God forbids, becomes popular... (which I douby honestly)

I don't think this makes for a fair chance for every driver at all, it is indeed all about which setup suits which driving style.

so on the whole; -1

Quote from SamH :

Incidentally, for anyone that thinks rubbing is racing, I have to disagree most emphatically. If you think that exchanging paintwork with other cars is part of the racing package, you're really really wrong.

I frequently see exceptional drivers who can race all day, door to door or nose to tail, and never touch more than the occasional uneventful glance. If you can't do it, you're not exceptional. But if you can't race that close without touching, you're racing beyond your capabilities if you try.

I agree with that, trouble is, most all RL racing drivers are better than the average Joe playing LFS, so you could be very good at not touching someone whilst racing very close, the other guy has to be on the line and consistent too.

I often see guys go off their lines 3 or 4 times, back and forth, left and right, just to keep me behind them. I don't know bout other forms of racing, but for instance in F1 they can only leave their line in defence once.

So I often think "why the heck did he do that??" when I try to overtake someone and he makes a weird move that makes us brush up against each other.

I also get overtaken a lot "NFS" style.. I mean, they plant themselves into your side and use you as a sort of moving guard rail.
Or they just rub and bump during fights, thinking this is how racing works.

Then when I say something about it, they would go "this is how it works, I see that in DTM all the time" or something..

a G-25

That is if they manage to get it to me in time.

I agree on the sincerity point too, but I personally don't care wether someone types it, or uses a bind.

I use a bind, which says "sorry, my bad!" and is used for the small incidents during a fight, like when I bump into someone slightly, but which does not cause someone to go off track.

As said before, that's just to show I am not deliberatly racing aggressive, but just had a small error in judgement there.

If I should cause a crash which forces someone off track, then chances are I am off too, or at least damaged so that my race is over really.

Then I would take the time to type a detailed apology.

But that would also mean I have to take the kb from besides me, and put it on my lap, and then type, as in my wheel setup, there's no room for the kb, so I have it lying sideways on my left (which is why binds are the only way to type when racing at speed)

Overall, I am sincere every time I use the bind and if the other person thinks I am not, well.. that's too bad then..

Heh Heh, well I don't really have a choice.. Takes time to heal..

Luckily my G-25 still hasn't arrived, it would be so cruel to
have it now and not having the strength to operate the pedals

Quote from SamH :

So, please everybody, don't feed the troll. Dan said it all, and Tristan said it too.. Smile and wave.

Normally I wouldn't have commented on these things at all, but I guess I am still a bit shook up from what happend the other day.. which might influence my judgement a bit...

I was standing at the bus stop next to a guy whose wife has a brother that knows a guy whose sister works together with a woman that has a nephew whose friend knows a girl that had spoken to a guy who had heard a story from a woman who had been talking on the phone to a man that actually knows someone whose dog saw a guy getting roundhouse kicked by Chuck Norris

So you can image that hits close to home... I'm still in shock..

Quote from obsolete_power :

I do not care, nor do I accept the fact that there are only 3 developers. They cannot keep up with the demand so they should get more people to work on it. Oh yeah and the nonesense about the developers having "lives" and families....no one gives a turd! They have started something, they have asked for money, so now it is time that we ask something of them! This is their job and I DO NOT CARE what lives they WANT to have. Their job is to sit on their asses and program! It isn't like this is a side project or something!! They get almost 100% of the profits and they should be satisfied by that!

okay so "stole" was out of place, but you seem to think that the money you paid is for the current development aswell as the content you got.

The devs don't owe you anything, so why the "time that we ask something of them" remark? you GOT what you were entitled too when you paid.

You also state that "nobody gives a turd" ..Well I do actually.
So nuff said

then:

Quote from obsolete_power :

Yep, typical....It is like a new corporation that is starting out, they give free things, the act all loyal and everything, they are constantly offering support and are more than willing to help and asnwer EVERY question. Then they start making some money and it all goes to shit....They become arrogant and no longer value their customers.

You go ahead and attack them again (you speak of personal attacks, I have not called you a name yet have I?)
So it's obvious people come to the devs denfense.. had you expected differently?

So yeah, you started it, had you used a bit milder approach then people would have been nicer in their respons I think.

How do I do a 180 on you, I dont attack you, I express my opinion, which is what all of us are doing, right? .like.. discussion? public forum?

As I said, you are bored with LFS, good.. sorry to hear that,
so go play your new #1 game, I was sincere there, I hope you enjoy it

Quote from obsolete_power :

Okay, when I said I don't give a **** and calling them immature was not about their opinions of what I said. They were directed to the attacks coming from them directed at me. This stopped being about my opinion a long time ago, probably about half-way through the first page. Since then it's been nothing but me being stupid, an idiot or any of the other things I have just seen. This just shows exactly the kind of community that you guys helped create!

Well you brought it upon yourself when you started it. You basically called the developers lazy slackers that sold out and stole your money and now you don't get any extra content fast enough.

imho you are wrong. because you paid for the content at hand, which you could look up on their site. You knew what it would be, an unfinished sim.

Ok, so you are bored with it, fair enough. It happens.
I am not, I am loving it, and if there would never be another update,
I would still play it for a long time.

Heck there are games that are much older, have cost me more money, and that have had no update at all, which I still play too.

But if you place such an opinion, and a tad strongly formulated as you did, on a public forum, in the Discussion section, then discussion is what you will get, no matter if you "asked for it" or not..

There is no need to say the community is crap, there are always some trouble makers, but you cant go calling everyone names

I hope you guys will have a lot of fun with Test Drive, and who knows, maybe we'll see you again when S3 comes around..

the best of luck to you all, bye bye!!

Quote from obsolete_power :

Well I should be sorry that I am not like you. Again, you have your opinion and I have mine, I respect the opinions of you all by not attacking them (I am however combatting the attacks). I see things differently and you know what? I do not give a rat's ass what you or any of the other immature people.

you just managed to say you respect others and not attack them aswell as saying you don't give a **** and calling others immature.. you're a genius!

If you want to be taken serious, you should stop contradicting yourself I reckon

Quote from obsolete_power :

It isn't an HK opinion, smart one! It is the opinion of an idividual that happens to be part of the team! I don't believe either of us said anything about an "HK opinion."

If you put your opinion on a public forum with a team logo and team advertising and a team tag then you speak as a team member and therefor your opinion will reflect upon the team as a whole..

been in the team-based online gaming long? smart one!

danowat is right.. nice team work.. rofl

Quote from VipeNess :

Thanks Victor. That was a honest merge. That is why I like you guys, you keep it real.

Quote from obsolete_power :

Yep, typical....It is like a new corporation that is starting out, they give free things, the act all loyal and everything, they are constantly offering support and are more than willing to help and asnwer EVERY question. Then they start making some money and it all goes to shit....They become arrogant and no longer value their customers.

So you tell him he keeps it real, yet your team mate stated the above, as the HK opinion.. and that is basically the definition of selling out, as in NOT keeping it real..

so which is it?

Quote from vrt3 :

I don't know if it's of any help, but I found some PDFs with specs on the CD that comes with the wheel. Here they are:

Yes, these are a big help indeed, thanks!!!

Easy_Mike; very nice rig mate, great job!

I have something similar in mind, tho I will make it dual purpose,
to accomodate either the G-25 or my HOTAS for the flight sims I play.
So I will have a similar tray on the left side aswell to hold the throttle quadrant of my HOTAS. (joystick/throttle combo)

Fred

Thank you very much!

Hello,

I have ordered a G-25. Unfortunatly I have to wait a bit longer than I anticipated.
As I have plans to build a race rig, I was thinking I might aswell get that started,
so that i could hook up the G-25 as soon as it gets here.
So I looked for some specifications but so far I cannot find the dimensions.

Can any of you G-25 owners perhaps do me a big favor and measure a few things for me? Or does anyone allready have the dimensions from building a rig yourself? Or perhaps the dimensions can be found somewhere online yet I just haven't found them, in which case you might point me in the right direction?

It would really help me out!

I have included a picture showing which dimensions I would like to know.

I would like it to be in cm, but if that is a problem inches are ok, I could always do the math.

It also does not have to be very accurate.. it does not have to be precise to the mm. I am building it out of wood (because I am not skilled at working with metal) and I will have the trays the units sit on, so to speak, a bit bigger than the units are anyways

Thanks a lot in advance!!!

Regards,

Fred

Quote from Jertje :

He's fairly low-tech in terms of physics-knowledge, so explaining to him that GT4 doesn't actually simulate anything at all does not work really well. Even shoving the fact that GT4 doesn't even have a clutch does not impress him. He'll still fall back to "The car still responds exactly as it should".

Quote from Jertje :

He can't come into my room once when I'm playing LFS, without trying to tell me that GT4 is so much better in every single way and that it was made by flawless, untouchable Gods and that LFS sucks so much because it's unrealistic in every way and it didn't require a team of xxx people to create and market and whatever.

He's wrong, yet he thinks he is right, and in his own little world he knows he is right.

Quote from Jertje :

he won't acknowledge anything wrong with the technical stuff in GT4, no matter how messed up something is.

He sounds like the type of chap that just can't be reasoned with anyways, no matter how you back it up.

So as you say he's a "friend of a friend" rather than a friend of yours,
why not just put a "LFS S2 licensed drivers only" sign on your door and keep him out of it!

You could let him try LFS on a decent wheel setup (if you have one)
If he's ever been anywhere near a car he should feel that LFS is superior
to GT4 by miles..

Or you could point out that on this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_racing_simulators

which has a comparison of racing simulators (obviously), GT4 is not mentioned.. I wonder why... maybe it's not a simulator

Happy Birthday!!!

Hi

It might have been Shift+F which is "Turn off all screen info"
I'm guessing it toggles between on and off, it doesn't say that and
I have never hit it myself, but I'm pretty sure it would

as the F is very close to the R, which you use to vote for a restart,
that might be a safe bet.

Also if you check your "docs" folder, in the LFS directory, you'll
find the list of keystrokes (in several languages).
Those come in handy sometimes

I hope this helps,

MadFred

Yes well of course I don't just brake every time it says "yellow flag"

Usually you can see what's going on directly or on the map.
But if I see a car spin off and can see that it will come back on the track
then I'd lift.

And a lot of times someone behind me does not, goes by me, crashes into the allready spinning car, takes out me in the process, and then 3 people sit in the pits waiting for the next race, instead of one car losing a few positions and no crash at all.

I just think a lot more people would stay in the race and not end up in the pits waiting for 10 laps to get back into it if part of the hunger for victory would be swapped towards driving sensible.

And it's mnot like obeying blue flags and being carefull with yellow flag situations would require a certain skill beyond the ones you need to race others in the first place, some people just don't wanna stick to rules if it means they can get some advantage out of it I think.

so yeah I do agree, it's hard to implement rules for lifting off the throttle indeed, sometimes it's not a real accident at all that says "yellow flag" on your screen, but for the overtaking there should be imho, with of course, a time pause till it's triggered so the position can be given back after an "accidental" overtaking