I am wondering though, throughout all of this I feel that the "wall of silence" now given by the developers is a little harrowing. What happened to the days of constant status updates?

We were told, as a community, on the 11th December 2008 that the latest update was around a week or so away (give or take errors in estimation), however it has now been almost 3 and a half months since the news broke that the patch was postponed and all we've heard since is that the devs are working on it.

Don't take this as a rant. I've been totally supportive of the development pace and totally appreciative of the fact that the devs have lives too - however I think the community would appreciate at least a status report that explains where we're at - obviously not giving away the features that may or may not be included in Patch 0.6A. I think we'd like to know what faults were found that made a weeks worth of development work turn into 3 and a half months. I've heard that there were major bugs with the new software - how about holding a closed beta with certain racers? i.e only giving certain people the latest patch file and the ability to unlock it?

Obviously having said the above, I'm in no rush for the patch. I'm still loving BL1 XFG races at the moment, fiddling around with various add-ons.

I hope this makes sense - its just my thoughts put down in black and white.

Nick

Quote from Fetzo :

hmmm, the scirocco gt won it's class in the 24h race (nordschleife), so i guess it exists in real life.

http://images.paultan.org/imag ... en_Scirocco_GT24_Post.jpg

Ah ok. Well, it still won't come to LFS.

Quote from Byku :

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Lol, they are the things I know we're getting. I wouldn't be expecting a Scirocco GT - they don't even exist in real life yet and I doubt that VW are counting on LFS to design it!

Quote from Byku :

OMG GUYS! We're going to get ONLY THE SCIROCCO! Jesus... it will be slower than TBO, couse it is heavier and has less power, it will have TC, ABS, ESP and maybe electronic diff(whatever it is :P). Cut the c*** about getting different stuff. There will be ONLY Scirocco in this patch, and by only i mean there will be NOTHING else, and if(somehow) there will be... then You will be at least positively suprised. Oh man... for the first time I am starting to get annoyed... and when it will be? NOBODY knows, personaly i hope that we will get it in this month, but i'm starting to doubt that. April maybe(at 80% in my opinion).

And it will have limited setup options.

You must have missed the graphical improvements, spinning brake discs and improved shadows then? Also you probably missed the post from Scawen telling us that he is working on stuff that we know about and stuff we don't know about.

Thanks guys, on a lot of other reviews I've decided upon an ATi Radeon HD 4830 512Mb GDDR3 Thanks !

Nick

Hi all - looking at getting a new graphics card for xmas - I have a budget of £100. I can get the PNY GeForce 8800GTS for £94.99.

The rest of my system is:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ (soon to be upgraded to the 5000+)
2Gb DDR2 533 RAM
PCIe slot.

What sort of frame-rates are you guys getting at what resolutions with what cards?

Cheers,
Nick

Hi all,

Not a rant

I just wanted to come on here and say that the other night, I had what I could describe as the best racing I've ever had from a demo server, XFG's round BL1 is a fantastic combination, and not only were there battles for places, there were no purposeful rams, the only crashes that happened were only down to the drivers and wear on the tyres etc.

LFS Demo hosts have become 500% better now that the demo racers have to have registered for accounts.

Well Done Devs!

Anyone else agree?

Nick

Quote from sun :

dont post here, this thread is to talk about to many cruise servers having the same insim

Yes, that makes sense. This thread is to talk about insim issues, which is why its titled "Too many cruise servers".

Taxi for sun!

I can finish this thread with one paragraph. And to make it seen, I'll put it in a few font sizes bigger.

If you do not want to play on cruise servers, when you Display List of Hosts, you see that little "Cruise" button on the bottom right? Yeah, that one down there. Click it. Thats all.

If you don't like playing on cruise servers, don't play on them, simple as. And the stupidest thing to to, to be honest, is complain to the forums.

At last count there were 6 Cruise servers active, out of 80 populated servers (not including Demo). I hardly class this as too many.

Yes, I enjoy cruising on TC, but I also race 75% of my time.

In conclusion, if you think there are too many cruise servers, hide them. Thats all. Unless of course you are server admins jealous of the traffic that the cruise servers get, in which case I think you have bigger issues to sort out.

As I've said in your forum, this really really really really really should have been LHD. The track is even based in London (even Brad agrees!!). Its a nice layout but there's arrows pointing the incorrect way on the road surface and blue arrows pointing the wrong way at junctions.

Good effort, but please make a LHD server. With insim and more admins it will not be confusing at all, and that would make us UK racers feel more at home, rather than being forced to drive on the wrong side

I know you've made textures but surely people shouldn't have to start replacing textures so that they can get the best out of the server?

Is it actually a PSX pad or a PSX style pad? Some of the PSX style pads disable some axes when changing between analog mode and digital mode.

Quote from CasseBent :

I smell fake. Look at the time, the sun doesn't shine after midnight. I'm on to you lot, I just need more proof.

Clocks are also in that position 20 minutes past midday! Or have you forgotten how to tell the time?

Quote from Richie Cahill :

I see it as symbolising your untimely end when you flip out like that and go Spec.. I'd miss it...

Ohh! I see, like an out of body experience?

Quote from popps258 :

How about an Oval Mountain drifting course
so long as it has forced rainy weather, steam powered tebo engines.
the mandatory Mobile phone on the dashboards, warp factor ten Clutch packs, All cars would have to be convertibles too so when the sun shines you can take the roofs off and get a muddy face. and cars will need good stereo to play music like Joe Satriani, Floyd Etc.
OOps gotta go infraction warning heading my way
Doubt you will ever see a mountain drift track just like we will never see another oval.
But all the other stuff may happen most likely the mobile phone on dash will be next.
Oops gotta go My Mobile is ringing
Freaking Mad Popps

popps, do us a favour and please stop putting useless posts on the forums. The reason you got an infraction was because of your constant spamming over the negativity you saw in your oval thread.

For anyone that hasn't seen that thread, I'll just explain. Because LFS doesn't have more than one oval track and that people have mixed views about it apparently we all hate disabled people.

Of course that is total nonsense. If the entire population were FORCED to play LFS I can see your point, but as another member said, how you managed to get from ovals to intended discrimination in 6 sentences is beyond me.

A hillclimb would be fantastic (does it have to be a circuit or does LFS support one way maps?). Of course you'd get people using it for drifting (cuz we iz lkin lk doze peepz frm fst nd furioz tkyo drft init), but as a rally stage it would be good. Of course the only reason that people are suggesting it being at night is obviously the fast and furious movie, but I can imagine it now, solid stone on one side, imminent death on the other

So, +1 from me!

-1. I think that would be too unrealistic, as you wouldn't have a team of mechanics around the car at all times on the track to make changes, this can only be done in the pits...

Hi, I don't know what reception this will get but I'll post it anyway.

Currently in a race if you hit a barrier, as we all know you go flying. Currently when one goes "Out of bounds" (flipped out of the track) the driver is sent to spectate. Thats fine for a normal race but maybe, now we have the /pitlane option, that when a user flips OOB, they could be pitlaned instead of spectated?

For example last night I was racing on BL1 and there was a small barrier chicane at the end of the straight. It was a small server, 6 slots but only 4 racing slots. I caught the barrier and ended up going over the fence, being spectated then as I was about to re-join, someone else joined and nicked my spot

Obviously in the long run fixing the barriers is the ideal solution, but as an interim measure?

Nick

Maybe LFS could contain a "Steam-like" interface, allowing you to see a friends list/favourite servers list?

-1

If you pull drivers from thier cars after a race it will seem to "NFS" like, i.e you are only on the track for the duration of the race. What if you spin off? Would the server think "ah, he's spun off, we won't let him rejoin until after this race"?

If you have finished, you aren't racing any more and I don't see why you get so angry if someone crashes you after the race. It hasn't affected your position, or am I missing something...?

Quote from mcintyrej :

The Demo servers on the list annoy me so much. There's so bloody many of the cheapskates ruining our lovely list! All I see now is a few S2 servers dotted around a huge list of 13/13 BLGP servers.

To be fair over the last few days I've had some ace racing on a BLGP server with XFG's. Probably THE most fun I've had than on any S2 race server. Racing is tightly packed with lots of fantastic fighting for places, not much contact, and havent seen a single wrecker.

There was a server with the XFG, XRG and FBM enabled and there were only XFG's and XRG's being used, in the interest of fairness. Many a time have I seen S2 servers with all cars enabled, the ones interested in fun racing go for the UFR's and XFR's, then you get the typical ones going straight for the BF1 to boast about the size of thier e-penis.

To be honest I think S2 licensed racers are very quick to jump on the "bloody demo racers" bandwagon, but how many of you have ACTUALLY raced with them?

Nick

Last edited by dontpannic, Tue 15 Jul 2008, 10:22.

Quote from Bramski :

Explain yourself now. That looks wicked!!

Quote from wien :

I'm interested in LFS moving forward where it matters. If Scawen is to run around implementing every whim of the average forum-goer it'll never get off the freaking spot.

Where the AI drivers go after a drag is an extremely minor issue compared to the effort it would likely take to do something with (this most likely isn't a 10 minute fix). With so many other glaring holes in need of plugging that makes is a stupid thing to waste any energy on in my opinion.

I don't think so. The aim of LFS is to be as realistic as possible. It didn't take too long for the devs to make AI smarter i.e. driving around the circuit then back into the pits after a race so I don't think it would be too difficult to deploy that same research and development into the drag strip. At the end of the day if someone was to develop a flight simulator but the altitude meter was missing you'd want that put in so that the game is more realistic. To be honest if you are talking about S3, that's not coming for years yet, so a minor update to the AI isn't going to waste too many resources. True I agree things like NOS and other silly suggestions etc are a waste of time and shouldn't be implemented but this one I wholeheartedly agree that this should be something to think about. AI isn't perfect at the moment which is good- as humans aren't perfect either. But when was the last time you personally went to a drag strip and the cars stopped at the end without coming back to the garages/pit bays?

Quote from wien :

As usual though, how important is this? I mean honestly. Everyone keep bringing up all these silly little details that, lets face it, have little impact on the quality of LFS as a simulator. They would take Scawen quite a while to do something about though, so that makes me wonder if you really think this through before posting?

It should be blatantly obvious by now that Scawen's time is very limited. This isn't some huge company that has limitless time and funds so, keeping that in mind, is this really what you want him to work on? Is it that important? Wouldn't, say, a proper damage model be of more use? You're free to propose as many silly little things you like of course, but do you really expect them to be implemented or are you just wasting time?

The thing is if LFS is supposed to be as realistic as possible should all drag racers in real life screech to a halt at the end of the strip until everyone whips out a keyboard from their jackets to press shift-r?

No, its a minor thing that will enhance LFS as a product. Remember LFS is still in Alpha and anything that we notify the devs as a bug/improvement that isn't too hard to implement will make it into future releases. Or are you not concerned/interested with the continued development of the greatest racing sim of all time?

Thats what I mean - the XRG really isn't the Skyline GTR in the photo

I've definitely noticed this too - whereever you go you get an immature racer who decides ramming is a good idea, swearing, the works - it really does get annoying!!

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :

ROFL at re-named title

Makes sense though. Where the hell IS the funny content in here? :P

Maybe the fact that Demo racers don't have any decent RWD drift cars?