Quote from Weasley123 :

How many electric cars do you see racing round a track, I never seen the Toyota Prius Grand Prix.

Ever heard of Audi R8 E-Tron?

308 whp power, 4500 Nm torque, 250km range.

Quote from Bose321 :

Hell, I even wonder if it will be (more) silent then an air cooled solution with proper fans.

It can't be.

Cause Prolimatech Megahalems runs overclocked 2600K with no fans at all.

Even if some water cooling could run without fans, there still would be pump noise. :P

Quote from e2mustang :

i wanted to get that watercooling unit too,but im glad i didnt. 42 idle? lol i got same proc litle less clocked and mine idles at 26c max load 48 c

Watercooling is about quietness, not about performance*

*note how in real life scenarios watercooling is inferior to air cooling in every single way.

Quote from Weasley123 :

LFSTweak > Set number of cylinders to 1 > Set max gears to 3 > Done.

Torque limitations are still there.

Quote from c00kie :

You should add a poll to see how wrong you are about electric cars

You should watch less of TopGear.

Last edited by E.Reiljans, Mon 10 Oct 2011, 14:49.

Quote from freddyalek90 :

IF there is a high-power electrical source where you work/where you live. If not, it will take HOURS, possibly more than your sleep/your working time. Not to mention that we have 3 cars in our house. It happened that all three cars were almost out of juice at the same time: we went to a petrol station and filled up.
Having said that we all need to go to work/school in the morning, could we charge 3 cars at a time? Surely not. So either my father or my mother or me would go to work/school in the morning, the other two won't. And that's not good.
So how to solve this? Why, fitting a car with a special tank in which you put a flammable liquid, and then when the liquid runs out you pull into... let's call it a "petrol station", fill it up in a couple of minutes and you never have to go brass rubbing (when recharging your electric car).

Yes, I do watch Top Gear. But that doesn't mean I don't have MY OWN opinion. Sometimes, it is the same as Top Gear's presenters', sometimes it isn't. 'Cause I have a brain, you know.

What's wrong with it taking HOURS, considering you sleep and work HOURS as well?

Quote from freddyalek90 :

Let's say I work 8 hours a day 5 days a week. Will I want to stay at least a quarter of an hour, more likely half an hour to "fill up" my car? No, I'd prefer to use 5 minutes of that time to fill up the hydrogen and use the rest of that time to go home and relax.

Do you understand that those 30 mins can be part of your work time or part of your sleeping time?

Quote from TamelCoe :

Some people will now know who I am

Yes.

Quote from freddyalek90 :

With an electric car it takes AT LEAST 3 times that, with high power outputs and very good batteries. In real life, it will take some half-hours. People can't afford to stay still that much.

Yes they can, when all they need car for is to go to work and back home, occasionally doing some shopping.

Quote from superxp :

Well, E.Reiljans, one of the good things in a simulator is that it is not real. So there's no pollution, no real petrol, etc. So why put an electric motor, that will never replace petrol engines even in real life, in LFS ? Even put a Diesel engine in LFS has more sense ! Plus you say that electric cars are green ? I'm sure batteries are way more polluting to made and to recycle (not recyclable I guess) than running petrol engines, and I don't talk about Nuclear energy for made the electricity... And electric cars aren't that economic, you have to put 7 000€ every five years for new batteries...

P.S : I've just seen weight of the new Electric Raceabout : 1700kg and chassis is made with carbon fiber. '05 Raceabout's weight was 795kg and made with aluminium, much cheaper and heavier than carbon fiber...

1. They will, just give them 20-50 years.
2. No, not really. LiFePO4 (best battery type for cars) batteries last 10+ years. Check site of A123Systems, they have some really promising technologies, compared to classic Li-Ion / NiMH elements :P

Quote from rockclan :

/thread

As I see you're on a cruising server.
Why you're so /thread'ing, considering electric cars would be very good improvement to cruising experience?

Quote from freddyalek90 :

They don't need a gearbox because an electric motor produces its maximum torque at 0 (zero) RPM, whereas a petrol engine produces 0 torque at 0 RPM, and its maximum at 2000-4000 or more RPM.

In fact, torque of electric motor doesn't depends on RPM at all. :P

Quote from MoMo92i :

well I gonan say few maths :

- you need something like 10 "Liter" electricity to have the same energy as 1 Liter petrol...

No, not really.

A car with electric motors for driving and diesel generator for producing electricity will have way higher MPG (as much as 3x) than car with just diesel engine.

Quote from Qurpiz :

I'd be amazed if LFS ever has another patch.

tl;dr LFS is dead.

Oh please, not so long ago we got S1 0.3 update - the H7. Isn't that a huge step forward?

Quote from tristancliffe :

I'm in the process of arranging some sort of sponsorship for Life4Po batteries.

Sadly, it isn't good for the batteries to charge them that fast.

Sadly, fast charge without any damage is the big advantage of LiFePO4 over Li-Ion (apart from their safety).

Last edited by E.Reiljans, Sat 8 Oct 2011, 20:58.

Oh god, do you even have any common sense.

SMPS'es have as high efficiency as 91% at 100% load, which means <200W heat output (about same as GeForce GTX 560 Ti) when running at enough power to charge batteries fully in 15 minutes.

Quote from ATHome :

This is an forum for petrolheads, not for eco-treehuggers.

I thought this is "lfsforum.net", not "ADAC.de"

Quote from tristancliffe :

Oh, you meant Coulombs. I assumed you just didn't know how to do the degrees symbol.

° you mean? It's \ on Latvian keyboard.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Okay, after 17 minutes off your PC and wait a few hours whilst keeping your power supply working flat out so that the internals glow red hot.

As I said, 15 minutes, not "few hours"
Also, for 30 kWh battery (just a example), 15 minute charge would need just 2 kVA, which is mere 9 amps at 230V. Some electric heaters, ovens etc use like twice that much.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Okay. Turn off your computer every 17 minutes, and chill it to 4°C for a few hours. Either way, you'd be laughed at from all corners of the globe.

You do realize that C is charge rate and not temperature?

4C charge rate = battery can be charged at (capacity in Ah * 4) amps, which means full charge takes exactly 15 minutes.

Quote from JackSun :

tl;dr

Electric engines are 80+% efficient.

Also, electricity MAINLY is produced from atomic plants, partially also from hydroelectric, solar and wind ones. All except atomic ones are renewable, and atomic ones are very efficient.

Stefani24: that's what people were saying 100 years ago about petrol cars, while driving their steam engined ones.

Quote from ATHome :

And you could already hear it's running out of juice at the end of the lap.

What's so funny about that? The fact Toyota's engineers didn't added unneeded weight to car by installing more than needed battery packs?

Quote from tristancliffe :

Turn off your computer every 17 minutes for a few hours to simulate more.

That's very funny, considering Lithium-Iron-Phosphate batteries can be charged at 4C completely safely.

Quote from MadCatX :

We won't have enough electricity to power these cars anyway with the plans to shut down nuclear power plants emerging all over the world.

It's not like oil supplies inside our planet is renewable, either.

Quote from Eclipsed :

1700kg,operational range 200km... Doesn't sound too racy for me...

Still, it's fastest road-legal electric car to have been ever driven on Nurburgring, and 200 km (which is 40 laps on Nurburgring, btw) could be extended by making the battery-pack swappable by pitstop team.

Ethanol engines, like petrol ones, have torque limitations. :3

Quote from hazaky :

Disable car engine sound in SHIFT+A and there u go. A nice humm and zumm :3

Yeah but it still is inefficient, and still has torque limitations.

Edit: http://raceabout.fi/era/ - this could be a good candidate me thinks.

Hi.

Considering electric cars are the future, and smelly, air polluting, roaring and inefficient petrol cars will die out in couple of decades..
are there any plans to implement electric cars in LFS?