Quote from XCNuse :

the reason i said no about using different cars is because each car in hte nascar league has near exactly equal properties, and the 3 GTRs ... dont have the same properties at all, which would make it biased really

The noses are slightly different, but not enough for it to be an advantage to any one make.
Just saying

I'll be in if i can learn to drive the fxr in time

Quote from MAGGOT :

I've noticed better laptimes in my TBO AI at blackwood; FXOs as low as in the high 1:28's. They are still mentally retarded and see my car with a huge target painted onto the door panels (never ram me from behind, but thats just cuz im too quick for them i bet).

Oh well... S2 will be final soon enough and then well have better AI.... and hopefully another increase in AI numbers. I want 30 cars dangit!

30! You either have a super computer or like slide shows. I'm in the low 20s on
the start w/ just 20 AI. God damn, 30 would drive my comp to suicide.

Back on topic, my fe club mrt AI still run off the track just as much, and no noticable speed improvement(though i haven't tested thoroughly)

LFS and g25 are both definatley worth the money, and don't worry alot about how many people are on.
I get home from school bout 2:30 eastern and can race on a good, populated server (stcc usually) untill
about 11 or midnight, then it gets pretty desolate.

Quote from SparkyDave :

I also think its cheap, considering if I pay full price for any boxed game £30 aprox here in the UK, then get a couple of months play out of it, lose interest or complete it, then the makers want another £30 for some expansion pack... I am thinking of the Sims2 games and remembering games like MOHAA or BF2 where you have to shell out well over £100 to get the full set.

LFS is; buy a licence and thats it, updates come every year and we never get asked for more money

SD.

Ahh, good ol' MOHAA. That's all we did in comp sci 3 last semester was play MOHAA. EvilVendingMachine FTW w/ da RIFLE.
Anyway, back on topic, I'll pay watever the devs want for S3 beecause LFS is the best.

+1

Quote from mrodgers :

I see where you are misunderstanding me now. Yes, S2 FULL was released in June 2005. We are all running S2 Full in beta form at the moment. I guess I should have said S2 licensed then to avoid confusion.

It was merely an attempt at a joke on my part anyways.

I see it was actually me who needed some sleep(seeing as it was 11:30 when i had posted and it's 1 now and i just got up. I love spring break)
Sorry for the confusion.

Quote from mrodgers :

Hmm, perhaps 3? S2 wasn't released in full form until the end of June (I think, perhaps beginning of June...). So it hasn't quite been 2 years since we've first recieved Aston, Kyoto, and Westhill. Perhaps it only took him from April S2 demo release until the June full release to make them.

So, my answer is 3! 3 tracks built between April of 2005 and June of 2005.

Quote from mrodgers :

??? I'm kind of lost here....

So your saying s2 full will be realeased in June, 2005. I think you need to get some sleep man. It's 2007. (Not trying to be mean or anything btw)

Quote from mrodgers :

Hmm, perhaps 3? S2 wasn't released in full form until the end of June (I think, perhaps beginning of June...). So it hasn't quite been 2 years since we've first recieved Aston, Kyoto, and Westhill. Perhaps it only took him from April S2 demo release until the June full release to make them.

So, my answer is 3! 3 tracks built between April of 2005 and June of 2005.

Don't you mean June of 2007.

Quote from srdsprinter :

Actually, I Just looked at the past 6 Truck races, 3 this year, and the last 3 from 06.

Only Half of the past 6 have had full 36 starters, and only 1 this year. So no, not "almost all" races are full.

Plus I did a little game of how many trucks did less than 10 laps.
2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 3, including one who didn't even start. Notice a pattern?

I also looked at the races you quoted, and there was no truck who didn't even start.
You might be refering to Mike Wallace, who was wrecked during the second lap of this years Daytona race.

And, of the 9 trucks that didn't run 10 laps, i counted 5 or 6 that had legitamite problems.

And i never said all races were full, i said almost all. and if you look at 2006, almost all were full. Actually, all but 1.

Quote from srdsprinter :

All cars don't matter in NASCAR. In the Busch Series, Truck Series, and other regional circuits, many many cars don't finish the race, and not because of crashes. Lesser funded teams in Busch will qualify, race a couple of laps, then pull off with "handling issues" just to collect the last place money. The Truck series usually only has 25-35 trucks per race, many without major sponsorship. And I suppose all the cars that DNF for mechanical and crashes really impact the remaining cars.

Actually NASCAR competes on road courses across the country and beyond. Did you miss Montoya taking the Busch racers to school in Mexico City, Mexico?

The truck series almost always has a full field of 36 trucks, and less cars DNF than you would make seem.(Excluding Talladega )

Montoya did have newer tires at the end of the Mexico race, though he was one of the fastest cars all day.

Quote from lizardfolk :

Not really. Not all teams have 4 cars, only a few. Most teams just have 1 or 2. Lots of teams are stuggling with just 1 or 2 cars in the field. Only the big or competitive teams like Childress, DEI, Hendrick and Roush has 3-4 cars.

You drunk again? lol anyway, you seem to be exgagerating a little. At most Nascar
races, the battles are 2 to 5 car battles. The cars still get spread out, just not as
much as in road course racing.

A few things i have remembered-
I beleive Montoya actually raced CART before going to F1, or maybe it Champcar, or maybe this was before the two series split, I don't know.

Cascar was actually bought by Nascar not too long ago.

Quote from mrodgers :

And finally, Robby Gordon came FROM Baja racing and, did he do Indycar? I think. THEN he got into Nascar.

Yes, Robby Gordon did race Indy cars. (I remember him bitching a few years back about Danika Patrick being so light and it being an unfair advantage.)

Quote from EeekiE :

Yes but you seem to be suggesting the reason is that NASCAR is more challenging than F1 when you mention all the ex-F1 drivers that have moved into it. How many NASCAR drivers have moved into F1 and been successfull?

Well, no oval driver has moved into F1(to my knowledge), so there is no way to tell if they would be successfull. Jeff Gordon took a spin in an
F1 car a couple of years ago and was running competitive laps fairly quickly. If any oval driver has moved to F1, please tell me about it.
I would be very interested.

Quote from George Kuyumji :

I know Hundreds of NASCAR Fans Online for years, and I have NEVER EVER seen a Oval Fan bashing Road Racing. But I have seen countless times some foolish Road Racing Fans thinking Oval Racing doesnt demand any skill, is easy, boring and just bash it altogether.
Thats why the question was raised.

Same here (which is why I raised the question in the first place) but I guess I'm lucky and don't go on the boards with ignorant oval racing fans.

Also, I never said that oval lovers never bash road racing, i just said that I rarely see it. That is just my personal observation and, admittedly, a little ignorant on my part.

Quote from EeekiE :

Just because a guy is good at flying a plane doesn't mean he's automatically going to be good at flying a kyte.

ooo, I think this thread just became deep and meaningfull.
Sarcasm aside, I see a good number of road course lovers who bash oval racing,
yet i rarely see any oval lovers bash road course racing.
Hmm, something to think about.

Quote from George Kuyumji :

Anyone who knows a little about this type of Racing, knows about tracks like Atlanta, Texas, Miami, Indianapolis, Dover, knows that the LFS Oval Track has a rubbish layout! No Oval Track in the World does look close to the Kyoto Oval.

Actually, it has a very similar shape to pheonix, it's just alot bigger.
Anyway, i would love to see an accurate replication of Darlington in LFS.
That would shut the oval haters in LFS up. Ovals take no skill to drive. lol

LFS actually needs a proper stock car before a proper oval will be of any
use. 3000lb and 850hp. Actually sounds like alot of fun.

Also, if LFS gets another oval, it should be based off Atlanta Motor Speedway.
1.54 miles and 24 degrees of banking. The ability to run multiple grooves and such.
Thats just my opinion though.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

If you're faster than someone you should be able to pass them without contact. You should practice it.

That's no fun.

Quote from mrodgers :

It's always nice to know the racers by their actual names rather than the sometimes silly screennames we see.

I agree completely.

Quote from Becky Rose :

I hate blue flag hotkeys, unfortunately, i've not yet implemented any system to auto-ban people who use one...

lol

EvilVendingMachine: Blue Flag. Move the f*** outa the way!!!

Admin: The user EvilVendingMachine has been banned from all lfs servers.

When i played NR2003, it was common etiquite(SP?) to leave a line and
indicate through a message which line you were leaving. Ex. Pass low<<<
or Pass high>>>. You didn't have to slow down, just leave that line open.
Also, slightly of topic, you were supposed to indicate through a message
when you were pitting/exiting the pits. That would solve a few problems
in longer races or midrace joinings when people are exiting the pits in the
middle of a race.

It's endurance drag racing!!!!

The only car lfs needs is... the Ford Model-T
:guitarist :guitarist

Quote from Jonas8431 :

Check this vid out.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kyfGko6qb-4

The thing is, those are street tires (high performance street tires but still)
on the xrt. They aren't supposed to flex like drag or race tires i don't beleive.