I don't see any problem if there would be a new car with powers of a FZ5, FR drive, good balance, 45 steeringlock, 17/18inch wheels, little bodykit ( or for the racers that doesn't like bodykit and 18 inch rims. an option to choose standard body or kit and standard rims or 18 inch like the option for uf1 lx4 lx6 with and without roof )

realy don't understand why people don't want a drift orientated car in LFS car simulator. it will bring LFS more users, drifters are happy, racers can use the car for racing so they are also happy. and the argument; it wil bring to much NFS ricers to the game is ******!! LFS is an simulator wich is great for drifting, cruising, banger, racing, drag. when NFS ricers will try this game they will notice that they always will end in the wall with NFS style racing so they will adjust themselves.

and why is drag racing in the game then? i'll bet there are 10 times more drifters then drag racers.


plz racers explain with good reason ( and yes i'm a racer to that drift also )( and sorry about my bad english )

Last edited by henrico-20-, Thu 27 Dec 2007, 10:19.

one more vote?

one more vote?

i'm in!

Quote from kamkorPL :

Reading some of the posts in this thread just makes me realise to get out of LFS and build my own car for drift as fast as possible in real life.

Thank god some race drivers I met in real life aren't close-minded people like some on LFSForum. People that I know in real life that are in motorsports love everything about the cars, and pretending drifting sucks and isn't something fun is something as ignorant as it can get. I have never met a person that drifted himself say that drifting is no fun, stupid or that it sucks. Why would people racing sucessfully(as winning) retire and start drifting proffesionally? Because It's fun. Let me quote Remmo Niezen from last International Drift Challenge. "Drift Addict".

And many top drifters in Netherland that dominate international drift challenge in germany(Held on F1 circuits) are retired proffesional race car drivers. It's ok to be a drifter in real life, but in LFS being a drifter sucks - props to selfish and ignorant community.

Oh and shall I start a discussion about some new drift server that appeared on lfs lately? What did lfs racers try to drift? Formula BMW and FWD Gtr cars, just brillant. But wait oooops!! Those were just few, ofcourse this doesn't mean that all racers understand drifting by dragging GTi GTR ass around the corners and spinning into grass. But you have to be open minded to see that. You have to experience both racing and drifting deeply to understand both. I wasn't always drifting in lfs.

Anyway, I really was motivated to do a very good article about 45 max lock for Scawen with several people, but I just lost it all. It's pointless losing energy to fight for something in a video game.

On the other side.. I can see it's actually not that much people against drifting. Most of the people who are against are the same people all over, all over all over all over all over..

If anyone wants to call me ignorant then well.. Yeah call me ignorant for not understanding haters. I guess I would have to be a hater myself to understand it.

And lastly, sorry for going quite much offtopic here, but reading this just really gives me a shock.

Remmo Niezen is one of the best europe drifters! i saw him a few times here with the Xtreme drift challenges. I'm normally racer to. i race 125cc karts and thats a lot of fun. but i do drifting to ( LFS and somethimes with karts with special hard tires) and thats great fun to but in an other way. i know why. with racing you have a lot of racers that try to beat you with 0.1 sec. also you need to setup the car perfectly and it gives somtimes a lot of stress. drifting is a kind of game that you do for fun. you can do it with an old 1980's car or with a 2005 350z and both can win the race. i think thats why racers love to drift to.

I think it would be a realy good extra if there would be something specially for drifters to. and you can setup yr drift car to an race car! at the moment i think 1/3 of all LFS users ar drifting or do it now and then.

the discussion about driftcars is actually pointless. it only add something extra to the sim. what does it bother you if people drift or race?

+100 for a driftcar look a like. I'm a racer in LFS but when i get bored of doing the same thing all the time i switch to drifting! and if i getr bored of drifting i switch to racing. and i think al lot of people do the same. + it would bring LFS a lot more users that love drifting only! I think it would be awesome if the devs would add one or more cars with the huge wings bumpers and wheels!! drifting in LFS is a lot of fun! and only the FZ5 and XRT are good drift cars but also race cars. but they look like road cars. so nothing spectacular!

if they would add some cars with the options i've written above. you can set it as a race car or a drift car. Then everybody would be happy right?? i don't see any problem... do you?

Seems like Touring cars will be the overall winner

you are from the netherlands but use a flag from scotland?

AI doesent overtake. did an 16hour test race wit UFR 30%restriction XFR 25%restriction and LX4 0% restriction. but they just don't overtake. they step all the time on the brake when they make a move to pass. also Did GTR test on KY Oval, when AI is faster they just don't pass even on straights. they jump on the brakes and make abrubt steering moves. also they enter the pitlane to fast at KY oval so they get a drivetrough all the time. but i see that its fixed in X35?

so these bugs i noticed:

-AI don't overtake they just brake and do abrubt steering and following eachother in one line. even when there is a diffrent in power ( LX4/UFR/XFR)
-AI doesnt use the full width of the track. just one line.

Here are some probs that i have noticed in X33. i don't know if it is posted before.

AI:

AI doesent overtake. did an 16hour test race wit UFR 30%restriction XFR 25%restriction and LX4 0% restriction. but they just don't overtake. they step all the time on the brake when they make a move to pass. also Did GTR test on KY Oval, when AI is faster they just don't pass even on straights. they jump on the brakes and make abrubt steering moves. also they enter the pitlane to fast at KY oval so they get a drivetrough all the time. but i see that its fixed in X35?

Car handling:

i've noticed that the cars are verry bumpy now. specially on cerbs. almost out of controll.

Setups:

All the car setups are gone. but the files are still in the map settings and i put them in map Setups. Only the lx4 still has all the setups.

i hope you can use the information.

gtrz
henrico-20-

p.s. the FBM drives great

Last edited by henrico-20-, Tue 18 Dec 2007, 22:00.

those cars will be fun in endurance races ( GT40, escort, mustang, etc )

yeah i think you must be lucky to make it to the second turn lol :P

yes thats treu! and it is the best way to do it your way. otherwise you lose all the fun in creating things.

I dont think that we will see real tracks in LFS to, maybe some small tracks that is not verry known by people with no world wide fame like spa, silverstone, le mans. The smaller unknown tracks maybe don't ask money or as much as fameous tracks for a license. so if there would be a real life track, i think that such track make the most chance.

but we will see

yess it would be nice if they can add some Old racers with the same old handling!

Quote from The Very End :

Voted long time ago, but anyway, what does it help to vote anyway?
Sure, you get the main oppinion of the community, but it doesn`t really help us getting those tracks eh? First man to get a track in-game xD

Wel me and scawen are working together to add some new track! No joke.. just want to see the opinion of all LFS users! and maybe if scawen or any def see this topic. they have a clear view what we want.

thats the reason to VOTE VOTE VOTE

Vote people! VOTE VOTE VOTE

lol sry can't add it to the poll anymore

It would be great a lager Auto-X also an Airport would be awesome! so you can design your own tracks!



And extra object i would add concrete walls ( if you hit them you won't fly 100ft into the air ) and curvestones

+1 it could work!

The Devs just removed the rev limiters its maybe to high but when the cars rev till 6500rp/m the sound will be boring and finally you fall as sleep

there are a few GT4 tracks that i like! The Fuji race park is one of them!

there you have an oval and 2 or 3 diffrent tracks

Last edited by henrico-20-, Thu 13 Dec 2007, 11:54.

Come on people VOTE VOTE VOTE

these kind of post is better to add to "cars we want to see in S3"

that is a good looking track and i think fun to drive! but i also think you need a lot of practise laps to know the circuit