Quote from shashdev :

HAHAHAHA! Dude, i really didn't want to get involved, but this is just halarious. Yeah, it will be a completely fair race. You know, a demo racer that has done 3623 laps on the track with a PB of 1:34:97 vs. a S2 racer that has done 13 laps on the track with a PB of 1:36:92. Dude, before you go challenging, you should probably realize that S2 racers don't spend all there time on Blackwood.

Btw, you aren't that great a racer either. I suck and my PB is 1:34:56 in just 529 laps. Yeah, I am not kidding, I really suck!

Thanks,
Shashdev

hey, genious, is your best lap with keyboard and NO HELP? is just a question, because that is the way i race, and if you didnt notice, in the DEMO world, there is not a lot of options to choice about tracks..


i want to know where the hell did i get that pb because i have not upload any hot lap to the lfsworld yet....


edit:
i can swear with a wheel i can cut at least 1 sec, keyboard makes the pulses so hardly compared with the sensitive steering of a wheel, and dont make me start to talk about how hard is to modulate the pedal work with a keyboard against real pedals

fine, that is what i want, lets obious the bullsh!t and go to the point:

Quote from Gills4life :

And which game has more manufacturers? Oops... Looks like your argument has fallen down already! Which one has Ferrari F2007 Formula One car? Which one has Nascar and WRC licenses? I could go on.... Oh dear!

so, because of that, GT1 and GT2 were better than GT3 right? NICE POINT buddy, NICE point...

Quote from Gills4life :

For all you know, I could speak fluent Spanish. Unfortunately, this is an English speaking forum, so you will never find out. You have kinda wandered off topic though. Quite amusing how you slip in the odd insult here and there to fill up the post once you have run out of ideas.

something tells me that you re being a lier about that =)

Quote from Gills4life :

You've already lost your ass to me in the previous bet.. how many asses do you have? You say I suck, so how about I give you a race? SO4/FOX? Oh wait...

ok, so why with a SO4/FOX? why with that? why dont you face me with the GTI demo´s car? why dont? are you affraid?

you are a S2 racer,lets see if that makes you better racer than me, so why dont you take the challenge with my rules to make it equal?

i use keyboard, no help, just autoclutch and no more (my keyboard cant allow more than 2 keys press at the same time), lets do it with the GTI on blackwood gp any day you want honey, no wheels, just keyboard, lets find out how fun is to race with it.


show some balls, lets do it put the date

Quote from Gills4life :

Oh please, it is senseless arguing that point. The whole concept of Forza has been copied from the GT series. Winning, earning credits, using credits to purchase cars and upgrades. The main fundamentals of the game are the same. Don't be daft and try and argue that point because you will lose.

yes, forza did, for example wich one get Porsche/Ferrari/Lamborghini first?

forza is a copycat, also adding damage, what a bastard copycat coming from T10, and the most copycat-ish move was to add ROLL OVER, damn..

Quote from Gills4life :

I see you have now run out of ideas. Go and learn something to your English.

ok, no doubt about you if i see you trying to speak spanish , i will laugh to that and i will make a lot of jokes, besides spanish is harder than english...


just check the pace:
gt4: available since 2005 (the 4th ) vs forza 1 (available since 2005)
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gt5 prologue (wich is a "demo"? but not a free demo?, is a demo that cost you some bucks you know, as all the Demos games..., at least forza´s demos are available for free)

available since: 2007, meanwhile forza 2 available since 2007, a full game, not a demo to wait the final version.

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gt5 final? available in? 2010?
meanwhile forza 3 is available since 2009
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if the pace continues like this, we will see FM6 or FM7 face to face with GT6 or GT7..






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im done, do whathever you want, no doubt that the "awesomes" intros of GT make your mind blow to think this game is the shit, the A.I. are so hard to beat, is a very hard challenge to finish the game, i bet my ass you couldnt beat the A.I. from FM1 with the highest difficult on, just like that you suck with your beloved GT.


by the way, i cant find the best racing simulator in this list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_racing_simulators

i saw iracing, i saw lfs, i saw so many, even forza 2 in that list but
why the hell none of the...how many versions of GT series? 10 including prologues? none of the series of the best racing sim ever made is in that list, shit, what a big fail..



just STOP the HYPE, a big and billionaire franchise name, lets see how long the hype will go on.

Quote from Gills4life :

How about actually quoting me where I said that. Oh wait you can't, because I never said Forza doesn't have a driving line. Fail.

yes, im such a dumbass, you didnt say that...

Quote from Gills4life :

2) GT won't be having a rewind feature because Kaz is a purist and Dan Greenawart is a nub. Forza did not have a driving line first you silly little fanboy. /facepalm

SORRY, it was my mind playing with me, you didnt say that..



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Quote from Gills4life :

It's pretty obvious that Forza have taken ideas from PD anyway...

yes, they take ideas from pd just like the damage (engine, suspension, transmissions, direction, in the body of the car, and so on...) and now they take the idea of ROLLINGover the cars, that´s must be a shame, PD must demand T10 because taking ideas from PD so bad..

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Quote from Gills4life :

I hardly made it out like that. "Nice move" taking what I said out of context though. LFS is an outstanding sim and for fun factor and value for money it is leaps and bounds ahead of everything else. Anything else I try, I always end up coming back to LFS. I just don't really see how you can call LFS a "big sim" and make this judgement on 3 cars and 1 track with a couple of configs.

you know, the fact that i have less content than you, it means i cant enjoy the physics engine right? just a dumbass like you would appreciate the physics to see the diference between 12 cars? and.. how many tracks?

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Quote from Gills4life :

LOL you're Spanish?

what´s funny with that? tell me to laugh with you =) or are you a racist or something?





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Quote from Gills4life :

Bullshit like... “I play a lot of racing games, including PC racing games and I have not seen anything that is even within years of what we’re delivering here.” -Dan Greenawalt

????

what about this "GT5 looks "better than reality"

you know, all the important stuff in a SIM is LOOK better right?
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there is not a hype, this stupid shit is like a religion, go and pray something to your god

Quote from Arsenic_Fox :

still doesn't make jnr89 any less of an ignorant fanboy...


Anyways, there is a hype. It's the biggest racing game for PS3. That means PS3 people are happy. =) Because WE OWN a PS3. > >




In all honesty, all this argument boils down to is do you like 360 (forza) or ps3 (GT)


The Forza people are obviously jealous of the PS3's awesomeness, and the PS3 people are jealous that the 360 has a bigger e-penis.


You're all retarded. Just like the two parties of government here in the USA. (the democrats and republicans)

And to be completely honest, I feel like the 360 is the system for people who want to be "popular", and the PS3 is for people who really don't give a shit what people think about them. I'll enjoy my uncharted 2 thank you very much.

(Oh and if you must know WHY i dislike the 360 in any way.. there was this kid in my programming class who talked about Halo and Gears of War... ALL... THE.... TIME... Even to the teacher who had NOOOO idea what it was. ALL... THE.... TIME... ><)

i just erased the content what i think "wtf with this info?" and i leave the part i like to read... because is very funny you know, besides im the fanboy here...

by the way, im such fanboy, i preffer LFS over forza, how many times did i wrote it? i dont know, but this one counts too..

nobody answer my question

wich is BEST SIM? LFS? GT?? are you affraid to answer?

Quote from Chrisuu01 :

I already have em

Some shots of me one if my painted cars and 2 action shots

please tell me that the disc brakes fading are not so fast as forza 2


i hate that, i really hate that aspect of the game, i hate it so much, is like "hey noob, we know this looks cooler so just make a no sense braking work and all the brake disc will be red as the sun of hot!"

Quote from Gills4life :

You think the original Forza was the first to have a driving line? That's either being ignorant or a fanboy, although probably both.

yes, im the ignorant and fanboy who started to use those terms, and im the IGNORANT and the FANBOY who said "forza doesnt have a driving line" when it does since the very first game of the series, have you ever play forza to speak as you know it??

im not sure wich is the first game with this feature of the driving line, but im pretty sure forza used it before GT... and i dont care so much because that line is for noobs, my line differs from the "driving line" in almost 60% and most on the braking points.. i dont use that line, is just a good feature for the starters.



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Quote from Gills4life :

So PD went to an F3 stand at E3. Oh, they were most certainly there to take down ideas weren't they. A lot of developers look around at other games. I don't understand what you're trying to suggest. F3 is superior because PD checked it out at E3? The Forza 3 developer confessed to loving the work that Kaz has done with the GT series, therefore GT must be superior because Greenawalt has checked out competition in the market? Good call.

what about if that was vice-versa, T-10 going to PD stand, i bet my ass you would saying "those noobs went to the stand of the most perfect racing simulator to take some ideas"
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Quote from Gills4life :

You're right, LFS is the most underated, although I am not sure how you can even judge that anyway since you're only a demo user.

nice move to use my demo user status to make me look as i dont know what im talking about...the main reason is because i dont need to buy s2 to understand how BIG is this sim, or how REAL and better is against forza or gt.

im not s2 because i cannot buy a wheel, and if i do, i will get s2, in my country everything you think is "expensive" is WAY MOST expensive here (277 us$ is the price of a used g25 here, lancer evo X used: 65,000 us$ no full option, get it?)

if you want, use the fact that english is not my native language to say something like "how can you judge that, since you re only a spanish dude?"



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Quote from Gills4life :

Oil spill in a commercial but not in GT4!?!? Wow. That's shocking. When I drink Red Bull I always sprout wings and everything. When I use herbal essence shampoo I always orgasm. SAUCE! This simple will not do.

why do you like to argue about the crap?? do you love to see commercials about games that make you think "omg this feature will rock" and when you get it... "where the **** is the oil?"

this example is hillarious:
i wonder you will buy a nissan gtr that in the commercial said "awd all models, 450 hp all models" and when you get a 200 hp FWD cheap version without options or leather seats, i think you will be very happy

i like to get what i see, that´s why i like forza over gt, gt with their cg intros, super intense racing commercials, crashing? oil on the road? all the bullshit they put to make you think "what a cool game" they are not in the game



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Quote from Gills4life :

...This is the kind of thing I mean. If you're never going to get punished for making a mistake, then what the **** is the point? It just takes the whole point of racing away from it.

the rewind shit is not allowed online racing, that is a fact, dont speak as it is available forever and everywhere. so, what is the point of this?, when in GT you can crash, and nothing happens, you can use the wall as your advantage, and nothing happens??? i mean, you are saying the rewind stuff must be eliminated, but i want to know what you gonna do if this stuff is in the next GT6 PROLOGUE??? ah?



you say im a fanboy right? im saying, i just take the best sim, if gt gets better than forza, i will give a crap about FM3, just like that, thats why i dont give a crap about GT right now, and about forza, LFS >FORZA/GT



if im getting a g27, s2 license, and a more powerfull pc = why to play forza? why you still play gt? or what? gt is better sim that lfs too?

no doubt about gran turdismo being the "real" driving simulator:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPfCoHErp1c

Quote from Gills4life :

1) Because if you know you're going to be able to rewind everytime you make a mistake, then it just creates wreckless driving. You don't need to concentrate or be disciplined at all.



3) Yeah sure, and you will never be any good. Rewind is just a cheat. If you get used to using it then you will be useless without it.

4) You really don't get it do you? Discipline is a huge factor in racing. Forza claims it is a racing simulator, one of the best (lol). It totally discourages being disciplined. Driving the same line over and over. Nailing and linking up each corner for the perfect lap. If you're stopping and rewinding every corner, you will never learn to concentrate properly. Sometimes you need to be careful when racing. Rewind just encourages you to go crazy and not be punished for it. To be the fastest driver you have to be able to concentrate hard and be as disciplined as possible. Real drivers learn tracks by doing many laps and practicing. Not driving up to a corner, then reversing and trying again.

5) That is a matter of opinion. I could not feel satisfied taking a race win if I had rewinded a race because of my own mistake. If you make a mistake you should be punished for it, otherwise what is the point in the game. There is no challenge.

6) Exactly. No rewind required.

with 6th, i mean that i didnt take those lessons...

you say im a fan boy, i tell you i was a GT PLAYER, after forza, never look back to GT, why? TOO EASY... you say im a fanboy but look at you

Quote :

"2) GT won't be having a rewind feature because Kaz is a purist and Dan Greenawart is a nub. Forza did not have a driving line first you silly little fanboy. /facepalm"

i have forza motorsports 1 and IT HAS a driving line, you put it on and on the track appears a line that CHANGE the colors if you need to speed up or brake or "speed up a little", the color are:

green: speed up
red: brake /desacelerate
yellow: is like keeping the same speed

so, stop your fanatism, LFS is the most underated in my opinion because is such a great sim without the BIG hype created by gran turismo over the years with those "intro" with graphics you dont see in the in-game playing, the commercials featuring cars and oil slippery on the road (LOL where is it in the game?)


i think forza is better than gt because with less years on the market, the game puts PD on troubles, or why did PD went to the FM3 stand at E3??? i think they go there to ask some cooking advicing, didnt they?


if you are so much against this "rewind" feature, you should play only games with no "restart" option, because basically is the same sh!t

i dont understand very much about the direction of this, but talking about the rewind sh!t, i read something very real about it, when you are in a race and you end before the race is over (someone crash you or you crashed so bad) a lot of people just "restart" the race, so what is so bad about rewing the race and not to start from the very begin?

the only times i dont restart a race is when im playing online for example in LFS, and we know that a messed up start almost end in the votation to restart the race..

instead a lot of helps on fm3, i dont think to use them all, i hate those helps, make you feel as an useless noob lol

check this:

Quote :

Some who plan on purchasing Forza 3 raised concerns that rewind should not be included in a simulator.

i want to know what gonna happen if GT add a rewind, just like the damage (forza did it first), the "line help" stuff (forza did it first)

Quote :

Supporters of rewind say the feature can help those who are hopelessly lost and frustrated when trying to control a car in a racing simulator, and at the same time it can also help more advanced drivers to perfect their racing line or braking points without grinding away at three mile courses just to get a chance to try that problem corner again.

i would use this for real, do you know how many times i have to go back on blackwood to take the chicane a lot of times to figure it out wich is the best line?

Quote :

Does rewind teach discipline? No, it doesn't. In fact a driver who frequently uses rewind has no need to learn discipline.

the only discipline i need to know about using this, is how fast can i go trough the turns to make the fastest sector, or what? this is not about cruising or is it? this is about being the faster driver you can be.

Quote :

Rewind destroys any sense of rhythm a driver can ever hope to develop.

is better than restarting the whole race if you get the car damaged or just try again the same turn

Quote :

Gran Turismo already has a very fine tuned system for helping new drivers get onto their feet. It's called the license system. This system covers everything from the extreme basics such as starting and stopping to advanced driving techniques like drafting and overtaking.

lol i never used to do this on LFS, just went to blackwood and start lapping the track

Quote :

- Someone brakes too late in a corner, misses it. They rewind
- Solution already in GT: colored racing line that tells you when to brake

Quote :

- Someone trys to pass an AI car and crashes so they rewind
- Solution already in GT: Many license tests and challenges that ask you to pass cars cleanly

the solution already in gt is about a feature in forza 1, i dont trust in this line, is stupid, if you CANT make a dynamic line by yourself, you suck, just as the A.I. that follows the same line

Quote :

THE POINT

Gran Turismo is a simulator

check this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_racing_simulators
cant i see gt there???

i repeat myself, what would happen if GT use the rewind feature??? i think the "rewind" in that case will be "the best help to the driver to improve skills"


if this is not a hype, what the hell is this?
http://www.gameguru.in/driving ... port-ultimate-comparison/

"GT5 prologue also has similarly briliant damage effects"...

where?

i still think, LFS is the best, without the support of big companys or getting commercial because manufacturers licenses, this sim is the best, just wonder who can be the final version of LFS

Last edited by jnr89, Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:38. Reason : quoting

hey i know that in lfsforums a lot of users had argue this already but i want to talk about the hype. I mean, i was reading some articles about GT vs forza and the writer is like talking without playing the games, he said something about gt4´s damage, i was thinking "what damage?" but keeping the topic, is there a big hype behind GT?


some stuff i find interesting, do you think LFS is better SIM than the GT series? I do..even better than FM3

and if you dont think so, why are you in LFS if GT is so "realistic sim"?

another shot, why PD went to the stand of turn10 back then on the E3?? why they do that if GT kicks forza so bad??

i hope nice answers, i mean, show me sources, and all that, if you want the link about what i wrote, i will post it if someoe request it, im going to sleep right now.

Last edited by jnr89, Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:15. Reason : sorry for my bad english

Quote from legoflamb :

Just Imagine what PD could do with the GT series if they were pushed in to the right direction. They have such a large consumer base that they can afford to get licensing on 500+ cars and some number of tracks! If that money went into their physics development team they could quite possibly make the best affordable racing simulator on the market. The problem they have is their decision to want to make everyone who plays feel like they could be as good as Michael Schumacher. With that attitude they dumb everything down to cater to that idea.

I have said this before, I really want to see if they deliver this time, or if they just sell $60 poo.

the only things i like from gt is the soundtrack (moon over the castle, the OST is great) and the fact that they put a ridiculous amount of cars, i mean it would be cool if forza add some corollas (the shitty ones) because i mean those cars are the most real thing to buy by a lot of people, i dont think everyone who plays forza can afford an AUDI R8 and that kind of cars..



another stuff is, i think this is the real deal, the fact is that a lot of people dislikes the better sims, a lot of people think that "omg look at lfs, what a crappy sim" (because the graphics, but WHO cares about the graphics when the physics are so awesome?) i dont care about graphics, graphics cant help you to improve your racing knowledge, physics may help with that.


im saying that because a lot of GT players (friends of mine) when they are playing forza they crash a lot, **** the car, mess the engine and they say "this is boring" and the A.I. kicks their asses very easy, is "boring" because is hard, maybe the most of people dislike the hard way that means you cant handle or rule the game in the first try...


in my case, i have a lot of fun with forza, the fact that making a mistake can cost me the race (damages), somebody says something about the damage doesnt affect the physics, im not sure but when a jgtc car loses his spoiler on forza, the rear is more easy to oversteer, im not sure, is just the feedback i see..


at the end, PD gets me tired of their bullshit about "the real driving simulator", im wondering if they are talking about graphics and not physics, al ot of GT fans say it "this is the best sim because it LOOKS very REAL"...

im looking for physics, not graphics

Quote from legoflamb :

Firstly, the title of the thread is Gran Turismo 5, it is simply a thread about GT5. It is not titled:

"GT5 is the best game ever to come into existence, and if you don't have anything good to say then don't post at all."

Also "its my party and I'll cry if I want to"

By not buying the game, and informing other people why they should do the same will help PD progress in the GT series by showing them they are doing something wrong. It tells them they have to change their product. If you keep buying crap, they'll keep selling you crap. I have always wanted GT to be the best game out there ever since I first started playing GT2, and, because of their budget, I still do. But if they keep passing crap as a real driving simulator, I wont have any of it. However, I still want them to make a real driving simulator as the title implies. Until then, I'll keep playing my GTR, Forza, or what ever the hell I like.

Gran Turismo's marketing is based off of deep vagueness as they can deny anything that can't be proven as a "cast iron guarantee." This is why the LFS devs try to be incognito about future development plans. Otherwise you get people like me that are thoroughly disappointed with the focus of development.

I know they never said they would have oil leaks in the game, however it was implied, which is a form of false advertisement. It just can not be prosecuted, but to continue, oil leaks implies damage. I hope everyone can remember this commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... LzLsE&feature=related

An aired commercial is not quite gossip.

I only give criticism where criticism is due. I have learned to receive it as well. If it is tiresome to read opinions you don't like then don't read them. Continue buying PD's crap.

I agree LFS has its faults, however the intentions of the LFS devs is way more apparent, than the intentions of PD, that they are not just trying to sell you crap. They seem to strive and make an affordable racing simulator, for all intents and purposes.

you my friend, holly crap, RESPECT... i agree with everything you wrote, except with the part of

"I have always wanted GT to be the best game out there ever since I first started playing GT2, and, because of their budget, I still do."

because if gt didnt get better after forza, i mean, after playing forza (fm1) i never wanted to touch any gt games, just feel disgusting, just LFS satisfy my fever of racing now until i get a real car again

Quote from samjh :

Reactions and reflexes... maybe. But sim cars and real cars tend to drive differently too. With sims, you're relying mainly on visual and aural feedback, whereas in a real drive you will also be relying on tactile feedback and equilibrioception (sense of balance). A Logitech G25 setup will not give you the same feel as driving a real car.

Another problem with sims and real life is visual perception. Perception of speed, closure rate with objects on the track, and angles are different on a computer screen. The screen is a 2D surface, but you'll be processing information in 3D in real life, which is a lot more demanding for your brain and eyes.

As for braking points and apex, a sim will only be of help if it is physically accurate. In real life, racing lines change dynamically as track conditions vary throughout a session. You've also got factors like dust, debris, rubber, etc. In a sim, you usually don't deal with such issues, so you can drive the same line lap after lap without fear of something unexpected.

The best help that a sim can give is to teach some basic theoretical concepts. But actual application of those concepts are quite different between sims and real life. Real life is much more complex and demanding than a sim.

sorry for double posting but, actually, LOL, the first time i get LFS i feel like real life is easier, i mean, i was without a wheel just the keyboard, i noticed that must be the reason behind my statement, i took a friend of mine who is pretty old on lfs (since 2004?) and i give to him a "time attack" sprint on a road near from my home, i told him "look man, real life is easier" and he was pretty scare... i usually kicked a lot of better cars on the road with a underpowered corolla, i think in my country the noobs are a lot..

they are so noobs, they think that a FR car cant understeer and a FF car cant oversteer lol...

another stuff i wanted to write about the sims, is, that you can see how to avoid under/oversteering, at least the concept behind it, i learned it from that, i confirmed by seeing videos, and i usually did it on real life a while back when i had a car and a job in a car rental, driving diferents cars, is about the same, but the momentum is not, the weight distribution plays a major role in this

Quote from MadCat360 :

See this thread.

Stuff like line and apex points are pretty much instinctual after about a year or so. Sims are really only helpful from a driving standpoint for newbies (they helped me quite a bit in racing school).

As far as track learning goes, yeah they can help, but in reality the amount of laps that it will save you is probably minimal. Still, it's better than nothing and they don't cost very much - even iRacing is dirt cheap compared to track time, so you might as well play it.

But from my experience, real racing experience can help a little bit in the virtual world, but things differ enough that a really good racer in real life won't necessarily be a really good racer in a game, and vice versa.

wow man, nice thread, i was thinking as the only one who asks this question...

another point to show is, its known that professionals drivers help a lot in the development of sims, for example i read a while back that motoharu kurosawa (former japan champion, automotive journalist, test driver of honda, nissan, and some really hot laps on the ring..) he was involved in the development of a racing game called "enthusia" or something like that...

by the way, i had an old car without abs or power steering (corolla) and i could practice a lot with it, about the best braking without abs, or how to fix an oversteering or understeering, and forza motorsports and LFS help me a lot to understand the motions of the car

what do you race man? karting?

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"Real skills" and "virtual skills" don't have much to do with each other, in my experience.

well, i can understand a lot of stuff of "real" skills after doing them on "virtual" skills, thats why i say the only diference is the heat, the g´s forces, the wind, and if you crash: the pain, the money, the gas you use lol...

but talking about reactions or reflexes, the understanding of the concepts "APEX", "braking points", "racing line" is something that virtual skills can help you to improve in that aspect..


i saw a professional driver testing GT4 back there when it was released, and he said "this kind of games can help you to study track courses", so i think there are some advantages of playing sims

hi, i wanted to know if you have a lot of real skills can help you to be a hard to beat virtual racer as in lfs, or if you have a lot of virtual skills can help you or at least it helps to you to improve in real life?


by the way what do you think about this:

the drivers that drive fastest cars, are usually the fastest in slow cars?

that is because a friend of mine that is S2, battles with me in the XF GTI and i beat him (he was on a wheel, and i were and im with keyboard) and he told me "im better with the "gtr" car class" so, what do you think?

edit: i already know that in real life, the g´forces and the temp, the focus, and how cool is your mind can be stuff that you cant have in a sim...

sorry for my bad english

Last edited by jnr89, Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:09. Reason : sorry for my bad english

i understand that some people in fact, can not drive if they are hearing or talking (lack of skills? or focus?) when i drive the fastest i can, usually dont talk (im speaking in real life), so i think is about the same with some people on lfs..

an option to "off" the commentator would be good as the option to turn on, by the way, lol im not a nerdly voice, im more like this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4hxk3Rlhqs

but more exciting comments because im a racer too, is awesome to see the side by side and neck to neck battles on the turns...


but im going to take your ideas guys, thank you a lot, sorry for my bad english

Hello, im new in the forums instead i sign up back on 2007, i was not playing lfs for a long while because my pc sucked at the time...


i just wanted to know if its possible to wish at least, a commentator option on the races, because when im racing and someone ruins my race, i start to comment from the spectators, a lot of people enjoy that but i cannot comment in real time because typing is not so fast as voice.


so, how can be this done? someone told me once about using skype...

pd: im demo, i want to buy the S2 but need to get the G25 first
sorry for my bad english