Quote from Primoz :

lajosh 110 is not enough. Ina normal road car, the minimum is said to be about 175. The D1 AE86 wighs only about 800 kilos or so, bare that in mind. And it's more like 200 than 150.

my friends are just fine with their almost stock engines (low budget drifters)
ae86 @ ~130hp


me on the left with the flags

Quote from squidhead :

I dont think we need a 45 degree lock unless we'll have a 500+ bhp RWD driftcar....
-1 for now

let me remind you that hp doesnt have to do anything with the lock.
drifting doesnt require too much power anything above 110hp is fine if you ask me.
theres one ae86 on d1 with 150hp and has more lock angle.

well i dont use the head turn with wheel either while drifting, since i spin my steeringwheel really fast, so i couldnt see a thing that way. but roll option would be nice and im absoulutely sure i would use it

Last edited by Lajoosh_, Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:25. Reason : another example for formula users

i miss one thing about head movement simulation, te view roll. i mean for example when you are inside a right turn steering right, the centrifugal force trying to move your head to the left, but you automticly react with rolling your head to the right.
i dont think it would be a big deal to combine the already made view roll in shift u mode with the g forces.
what do you think?

hre is an example picture of how would it look like (in drifting :P )

hey BlakjeKaas! what you said is sounds to me like the only way for you to win is to wait for others to spin out. i felt from the start that youre malicious, but now its clear for everyone.

oh and lfs is also used for drifting and not olny just for racing. got it?

Last edited by Lajoosh_, Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:24.

don know why people instantly called it race.


even on our poster. the green text on the middle says: drift race :S

Quote from psdf :

I think Lajoosh either does not understand the definition of the word 'race' or he's thinking other racers are trying to diss drifting by saying it's not racing. When I first heard someone say "drifting isn't racing", I immediately thought "What and idiot! Drifting is racing!". But after thinking about it for a while, it just isn't. Drifting can be a motorsport, competition, whatever, but it sure as hell ain't racing.

well i have to admit that all of these talks were made me think again about it.
if racing means only thoes kind if motorsports where the only thing that conts is who reach the finishline first, then drift is not racing. ok
anyway here in hungary most ppl thinks and talks about drifting as a kind of racing sport including real life drifters. we even refer to our drift events as drift races in hungarian language. but every day theres a new thing to learn
maybe todays conclusion for me: the meaning of the word racing in english is not equal to what racing means in hungarian language :S

ok, now plz talk about the original topic from now!

thinking back on what we were talking, i can say i was kinda ejoyed it
im not mad on anybody.
but grippers you have to accept that there is a huge need for more steering lock on the drifters side. it doesnt matter if you think its stupid/gay etc the need will still be there. drifting community is huge i say HUEG nowadays not only in real life but in lfs too so the devs should do something about this issue. this time we are not asking for any irreal stuff, no NOS, no neons, nor disabling the tire heating. high lock angle is needed in the motorsport called drift. (i said motorsport, not to hurt anybody though i dont agree with that)

Last edited by Lajoosh_, Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:30.

Quote from Hankstar :

I'm only a "pesky gripper". LOL.

cant you see im jusk making fun of how grippers refer to drifters? :S

the description from drift au is clearly right. its not just about who finish first.


and for you spankmeyer: youre just another guy says gtfo to the more talented and skilled drifters because you think what they do is stupid. and anyway what you wrote clearly shows that you just like to irritate and poke others. thats all.
btw im a paying buyer of lfs and as i can see i joined the lfs community months befor you did so youre not the person to tell me gtfo.
peace

edit: sorry if i hurt somebody's lil' feelings. please proceed with the conversation peacefull, that was all what i wanted to say. im off to my gf

Last edited by Lajoosh_, Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:33.

aah nevermind.
what im trying to say that higher lock wont hurt anybody
rightnow all the cars in lfs (including all the lowes spec cars) are race cars with a lot of modifications and adjustable parts (tons of gears, adjustable damping etc.) stock have almost nothing that is adjustable on them.
45° and ever higher lock and modified steering cars do exist irl. and it is very common in the world of drifting.
so i dont get why only this part of lfs is not adjustable to make it higher then 36°.

Quote from AndroidXP :

Oh god, PLEASE don't start a new pro/contra drifting discussion. Anyway, Tristan is right, if you like it or not. Racing always involves someone being the fastest over a certain distance, and that's clearly not the point of drifting. You don't call figureskating a race too, do you? :nol2:

well i dont know if its a considered as serious sport as speed skating or not (i guess it is)
but i wouldnt go and tell them: hey your stupid ballett so lame it lacks all seriousness i could laugh at you all day and my sport is way better!! ;P


edit: figure skating -> competitions
in drifting there are competition types where it counts who reaches the finish first. these are the touge drifts 4xmpl. -> racing

to: BlakjeKaas
you repeat the same stupidity over and over again
i dont get how could you be in a community like this one and play lfs while youre this much wooden-headed / old fashioned.

to: tristancliffe
thats the fukken proof that you dont know anything about drifting. the likes of you should stay quiet when it comes to a talk about drifting, instead of mocking.
drifting is a kind of car racing, but it has different rules and ways to decide who is the best.
and thats the main point of all the racing: deciding who is the best racer!

btw racing cars are always modded, more or less. live for speed IS a racing simulator.
i you going for stock cars and regular car parts. shouldnt it be called: life for sepped, online ricer simulator or stock car simulator? or maybe... street racing simulator?

some short thoughts that came into my mind:
-higher lock would help me recover from thoes spins tah is caused by the false tire temperature->traction loose problem :P
-it is true that a skilled drifter can handle the lower lock, but do not want to. im the perfect example
-somebody said it wouldnt be a compatible patch. is say: O RLY? then explain how the hell would affect the previous wr's laptimes etc?...
it is fair to release it in the next compatible patch because: 1.: it wouldnt make anybody faster. nobody will get better laptimes because of this. thats a fact. 2.: eveybody can download it and get more angle if he wants.

Last edited by Lajoosh_, Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:52.

hi all! as im also a drifter in lfs for a veeery long time now i had to reply this thread and share my selfish opinion with you
at first i have to say i completely agree with matrixi, what he sais is the reality, i could copypasta here all of his replies (except only a small thing: he said drifting is not racing. well drifting IS a racing sport since there are competitions ans serious drifting events. think about D1).

and my thoughts:
im into lfs since the first demo came out and started racing in the hungarian lfs championship in the demo and in s1 seasons. since 2003 im drifting. you can guess, yes ive started with the xrt . i friend of mine from the lfs gripping community joined me and soon we were known as the best hungarian drifters. in 2005 we gathered with many other people from hungary who wanted to make drifting in our country a real organized and well known sport. We now have http://drifter.hu and had 3 serious drifting events until today. In the mean time i have been building my own drift car for almost a year now. (guess what kind of car! yes, its an ae86 )
in order to prepare my car for drifting i had to learn many things about car tuning and i can say modding the steering system is essential for a driftcar.
for a drifter the goal is to get less steeringwheel turns and more steering lock. making more steering angle is one of the easiest trick. could be done with a few money by shortening the steering knuckle arms and making some spacers for the tie-rods. changing the steering rack and pinion is also a possibility to get less wheelturns and more lock. these hacks are way more cheaper and easier to do than 4xmpl changing the whole transmission.
since im going for reality, i only drift with the lowest spec non-turbo xrgt because that matches the most to my ae86. im using dfp with 900°(this much wheel turn is possible irl.) i have fiberglassed a clutch to my pedalset (its a momo racing brake pedal) made a gated H shifter out of a joystick and an analog handbrake of aluminum rods. now thats the challlenge folks!
although me and my friend are always on the limit and drift the hell out of this low spec car even with the low maximum lock angle, we still want more angle. this wouldnt make us any faster or better drifters but would make our possibilities wider range and make our drifts more precise and more controllable. and i said what is the goal in modifying the steering, more angle while less wheelturn. in my case im always having a hard time when there is a chicane and need to turn my wheel from lock to lock 2-4 times while its only 36°. if my max lock would be 45° or maybe more, i would reach 36° much faster.

if you want to know, i dont really care about what thoes pesky grippers saying about what is real or irreal since i know they are mostly dont know anything about real life driftcars nor drifting. (and damn some ppl cant understand thet more max angle wouldnt hurt them.)
and anyway: I KNOW IM RIGHT! ;P

thanks for listening


edit: i give you some piccies to get the feeling of thoes kamikaze hachi drifters!

Last edited by Lajoosh_, Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:26.

Quote from Rooble :

Although im having a go myself, im finding it a little tricky to get this sound stuff down. Im looking for a soundpack for the XRG emulating the sound of a prepped AE86, if anyone has some media i can use or can help me on my way, then post something! Perhaps a decent tutorial on what i need and what i should be doing exactly

seconded

i also want a good 4a-ge sound maybe like the TRD N2 ae86 has
i tried to make one using the hot version ae86 special video, but the sound quality was too low and i couldnt get long samples so i didnt succeded in this.
would be nice a proper 4A-GE 20v sound for my levin

i have a problem with editing. i have installed VB6 (http://www.microsoft.com/downl ... 7FFB3C&displaylang=en, extracted the installer and run. it copied a few files to my windows folder. after that i restarted windows.)
but csr still gives the 339 runtime error: MSCOMCTL.OCX is missing.

hope you liek

my new trueno->levin front swap on my drift hachi xrg
(made with photos of my real ae86's new front i bought a few weeks ago)

small idea: on track select screen - left click on track number -> normal track config
right click on track number -> reversed track config

this would come handy

returning back to the main problem.
i also hate that lfs gives an autmatic clutchkick when the rev is too low.
there should be an option at the help screen to turn that off and let the engine stall. or if the "engine stall feature" is not programmed yet, then just give it an engine stop command instead a cluchkick(as someone did this using an outgauge program. /didnt work for me :S/), but if the car is moving and the shutted engine starts spinnig again when the driver shifts down one or two gears, it should start again. thats not the best way to solve this but would be more realistic than how it is now. also who likes it coud still use it because its an option on the help screen. i think this is not a big deal for the devs and many racers would be very happy with this small improvement (but at least ME D). this would be still compatible with the actual phisycs, wouldnt affect the laptimes.

btw my girfriend is going for her drivers license and often practising on lfs (im using dfp + cluch +ffshifter + homemade hadbrake) AND I CANT TELL HER ENOUGH TIMES: "USE THE CLUTCH WHEN YOU STOP THE CAR WHILE THE SHIFTER IS IN GEAR, OR YOUR ENGINE WILL STALL IN REAL LIFE!!!!" and things like that. she replies that she cant understand or askig why. she says she will try to use it but always forget because this autoclutch helps her. aah i hate this feature. DD

1 wheel only


edit: two wheels in corners

Last edited by Lajoosh_, Wed, 7 Jun 2006 20:24.

hay guys! i made some improvements on my trueno skin. what do you think?

hay guys! whats going on here?:nut:

Quote from Doorman :

I'm pretty certain he means edit the screenshot, not edit the skins.

yep. lol

example: my own xrg http://hko.uw.hu/hkogtd86.jpg
so... any ideas?
or should i really bother the devs with this question?

Last edited by Lajoosh_, Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:20.