Quote from aoun :

i use wireless.. whats the problem?

In that situation, I think the driver a should have been aware that b and c were tussling, and as such should have perhaps beena bit more patient before trying to hack around the outisde.

Obviously I don't know the differences in just how juch faster a was going into the corner than b and c, but as was said, it's the responsibility to some extent of the guy behind not to hit the guy infront. This is true even on ski slopes! I think it is even more true in LFS than in real life, given the lack of peripheral vision, and the fact that the mirrors are very small, and in many cases may be on very low level of detail for the sake of frame rates...

I experienced this aswell on my DFP. Twas due to FF being too high. I'm currently quite surprised by how much nicer it is with it turned down, it still feels meaty, and I don't have to put up with the ridiculous shaking backwards and forwards whenever the wheel is centred.

I'm just using the settings other people have recommended, 100% effects strength, then the rest on 0%, with centering spring enabled.

The understeer related lightness does seem to be a bit lacking, well, it just feels a bit more through my real car's wheel than through the DFP in the XFG.

Although, thinking about it, I'm understeering for different reasons IRL versus LFS, so I'll reserve judgement on LFS for the minute.

New physics are pretty awesome though, I have to say. Oversteering the rear wheel drive cars feels so much more 'real' for some reason.

Inside LFS folder there should be

data folder
docs folder
LFs.exe
card_cfg
cfg
deb (maybe)
interface_cfg
README

It might be worth putting the .zip in here, so you just need to do 'extract here' and it should ask you if you want to overwrite LFS.exe etc.

Inside data should be the following folders:
abc
dds
drv
hmn
knw
language
layout
lesson
misc
move
mpr
ogg
pic
settings
skins
skins_x
smx
snd
spr
veh
wld

Sounds like you extracted the zip into the data folder maybe?

Last edited by letdown427, Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:52.

It's probably unlikely that any of the download mirrors are dodgy, I mean, there'd be a lot more complaints I think. I used the first of the two UK mirrors, 230kb/s, no problems

There shouldn't be a second data folder inside the original one...

Quote from Festy :

Thanks Gentlefoot. I think my reply was the unclear one. I did have the zip file in the LFS directory, and I chose to "extract here". I also had to choose "yes" to overwrite (update) files that already existed. I also tried to extract it through winzip as well. Unless I'm missing something major (and if I am, boy will my face be red ), I can't see what else I may be doing wrong.

It could be you have some other files that you've modified that aren't being overwritten, but aren't compatible with the new patch for some reason?

Might be worth d/l'ing the full S2S version and dumping it on a dif partition etc just to check, you can always troubleshoot/move stuff around later, for now, I bet you just wanna try that BF1 hehe

Quote from colcob :

I do wonder whether its about time the team dumped this old 'extract the zip yourself' method of installing and just made a simple installer that put the files in the right place.
I know that us old hands are fine with it but its a bit off-putting to new users, of which there will be many more in the months ahead I'm sure.

New users would just download the thing from scratch though, surely...?

And if they can't use winzip to extract a few files...jeez... hehe

Quote from Martinolof :

what the hell?
After i installed the patch i got the same startup screen as you get when you install it from scratch... further i get to the screen to pic a car, there i automaticaly get the hatchback. and when i then press Next... the whole thing breaks down, and i get a messagebox that tells me that LFS.exe has a problem!

any one else got this problem?

The first bits were normal, up until the breaking down bit....

Quote from Live For Kill :

031 racers online)))

047

oops, 057

Quote from Taavi(EST) :

er, guys, is this normal??, i got to play for like 30 min, and then:

I've seen that sort of thing on my PC with the old patch, was to do with mypoor former overclocked gfx card and/or RAM.

Check GFX card isn't overheating?

Quote from deggis :

I think weak FF motor would explain some players' very heavy FF settings... if they always played e.g. some crazy 150/150% settings the motor could've been weakened so it actually isn't so hard that it looks like?

I played with my DFP with everything on 150% and with it at 200 in LFS for ages. It felt sooo meaty throwing/wrestling the cars around, the only problem was that in a straight line, if the wheel was centred it would violently twitch left and right.

Fun though

Last edited by letdown427, Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:24.

Quote from Matrixi :

A decent setup can help you learn faster, but it never drifts for you or makes you in to a great drifter over night. When people ask me to try their setups I notice they easily make the mistake of having too high pressures in the tires, don't go overkill with it. I'm only using 2 different sets, a slower more showier one (used in the replay above) and a faster one with lower pressures. I change between these two setups according to the person I am twinning with to keep the speed on the same level.

OK cool, I wasn't looking for a set to do it for me, I'm happy to practice practice practice, I just didn't want to be practising for ages only to find that I'm never going to get to that kind of level because of a setup issue...

Thanks for the reply!

Matrixi, that was awesome!

How important is the setup for that level of drifting? As in, do you have one for every course? Is every last degree of camber crucial and so on?

You've inspired me to start drifting on LFS again, spose I'll wait for the patch first though!

Quote from Shotglass :

aw come on youre dutch ... how could such a harmless post possibly disturb you ?

Quote from XCNuse :

stereotypically lol but its really not
... okay it is in public schools probably
but definetly (except a few people) not at my school lol i can think of a few that go home together .. lol it can be, but .. for majority of people going, like everyone is going with someone in the school so that.. means no, that wont happen

sorry for the confusing post lol

Damn you american pie et al.

Quote from XCNuse :

omg i just realized that i dont have school friday because thats prom.... YESSsssss (and no im not going to prom because it costs alot for one, to late to buy tickets now, have no one to take, dont want to go alone... and finally, I havent heard one good thing about it yet)

I'm Englsih, so I could be mistaken, but Prom, isn't that, how to put this....sexy time?

Quote from Lucasinio :

Maybe they finsihed the patch in the first 5 days, maybe theyre re-enacting the beginning of the bible...

*And on the 6th day, the developers shall rest..*

Maybe not ...

Maybe they're evil bastards

Quote from stevewhite :

Will we ever know if there was a problem with the patch or if this was intended? By this i mean the teasing...

Ah, but will we even care once the patch is out?

Quote from CharlieP :

Anyway, enjoy the show and the patch will be here very soon

He knows something! TELL US WHAT YOU KNOW!

Oh, wait, you know nothing, just like the rest of us. Apologies.

Quote from Smax :

Easter weekend.... even LFS devs deserve high days and holidays

But they locked our update thread I was crushed when I couldn't read the latest spammings, sorry, update happenings.

D'ah well.

Quote from stevewhite :

Are they going to release some kind of a clue, today as to what we can expect next?

Doesn't look like it, they've utterly forsaken us. They've even locked our update thread. :weeping:

Daily updates, everyone was nice and excited, then nothing. They've gone illepall


Still, I guess they're going to release the patch eventually, so

Quote from DEVIL 007 :

But the question is what is bigger then F1 car in LFS?

By now, I'd say no F1 car in LFS

Honestly, you'll get into one of the 'proper' cars, and just be like,

OMGWTFBBQPRWNS it's teh FAST!

I'd say jump in an LX6 maybe first, or just be crazy and hop in the F08 right off. good luck with that!

Quote from SatCP :

If you use a credit card it just takes minutes to get the license and activate the game.

QFT

Quote from Niels Heusinkveld :

One thing is for sure, they HAD to improve tyre physics to make this drivable

Or they've put added traction control gadgetry, as in real life





Nahhhh