Quote from squidhead :

And if you don't see my point about the same car being in different categories because of the engine - I'd continue with saying that A Civic Type-R is a sportscar, while the Civic 1.6 is a small 3 door hatch. Skyline GT-R R33 is a Sportscar, while a 2.0 Skyline is a regular coupe, and so on. The engine matters...

ummm what skyline are u refering to with 2.0 skyline? hopfully not the R33GTST

here is what i think
R32 GTS coupe
R32GTST Sports Coupe
R32 GTS4 Sports Coupe
R32GTR Sports Coupe
R33 GTS coupe
R33 GTST Sports Coupe
R33 GTST-Mspec Sports Coupe
R33 GTR Sports Coupe

and yes their is lots of other skylines i just failed to list the nismo's nur's and N1's cause they are all Sports Coupe's

Quote from BigPeBe :

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Wastegate on another hand is controlling the boost itself, it controls the spinning speed of the turbo and ie. external wastegate has it's place in the exhaust manifold.
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sorry have to correct you here

the actuator controls the boost by operating the wastegate they both need each other to work without a actuator the waste gate wouldnt know when to open.

or in terms of a aftermarket controler its then controled by this but as allways their is actuator in most electronic boost controlers.

the actuator is something that regulate's the boost pressure and once the pre defined pressure is reached it will allow the excess pressure to open the gate. this is how it works with internaly gated turbo's and a boost controler will do the same thing to the air befor it reach's the actuator to keep intake pressure's at what they have been set for. allso internaly gated turbo's actuators can sometimes be adjusted with a small screw.

im not up to speed on extrenaly gated wastegates but in due time ill learn more about them

or maybe you just need to get laid

Quote from [plidex] mateo :

one holden commodore of the australian supercar V8 championship, or one proto of de ALMS

what the hell is wrong with u man commodores are one of the shitest boatyest cars made :P

id love some real cars to race against the other class's but lets be honest anything they add will take A LONG time to make it fair to race the other cars :P

so how about a car that dosent need compertition??

RALLY CAR
DRIFT CAR
DRAG CAR
TRUCK
VAN
BOAT
PLANE

pritty much any of my susjestions will be fun

lol many months later and this thread is still a intresting read

nice post erfrag though i dont fully agree with some of ur post most of it would make sense depending on the setup/conditions/ lots of things

one question erfrag what kind of boost controler are you useing on this car or is it actuator controled?

if its controled is whats the setings of the controler

Last edited by MAD3.0LT, Sun 11 Jan 2009, 17:09.

Quote from Woz :

There is actually NO auto tranny in LFS. There is a setting that will change the manual gears for you when it feels its the best time.

As others have said, nobody apart from drag racers really use an "auto" tranny while racing. They are just not suitable.

IMHO you would have to be insane to drive a high power RWD auto on a circuit. Not knowing the the gearbox will shift on you means you cant push the car as you risk spin outs in corners etc.

Here in NZ autos are popular. I always laugh when I see WRX, EVOs, Skylines, Commies and Falcons with autos, what a waste of time.

lol do u watch GT3 i think its called with porsche's and commies and the rest?? if so you may have seen NZVL the VL commie that runs a jacot 4spd auto.

i have spoke with him many times and the main two reasons he use's auto is that a manual box has to short ratio's and a sequential box wont withstand 740+KW's for the $25,000 virson

i didnt read the hole thread so sorry if these a repeats

why could'nt timmy the fish swim

cause timmy the fish was a peice of cheese


what does micheal jackson and santa claw's have in commen

they both leave kids rooms with empty sack's


While waiting to finalise their Australian residental status, two Afghanistani men start chatting. As they part, they agree to meet in a years time and see who has adapted better to the Australian way of life.
True to their word, they meet after the year is up. The first says to the second "We have integrated so well...yesterday, I ate a meat pie and drank a VB while watching my son play Aussie rules"
The second man replies "F**k off, towelhead"



@thisnameistaken
British Intelligence
i found that part so funny i allmost fell out of my chair

Last edited by MAD3.0LT, Sun 11 Jan 2009, 14:13.

same i kinda enjoyed it :P

side note Naruto dose he ever learn to fight i mean 46 eps so far and all i hear him doing is big noting himself

bugatti veryon sell it and buy

Corvett ZR1
R35 GTR
R32 GTR skyline
HK manaro 450 chev
F355
BMW M3 V8 (daily Driver)


ZX6R 2008
CBR600RR 2008

lol u dont but its better if you do so it seems im a shoe in

lol same sam93 that was one of the things that got me hooked on TR but it lost adventure and story line in 3 and 4

i just had a thought how many types/ car grps are their

its a long list but here is some


main groups

hach backs
sedans
coupe's
station wagons/estates
utes
4x4's
convertables
vans/MPV's


un definded groups

eco cars
hotrods
muscle cars
sports cars
performace car
super cars


what am i missing guys

Quote from Krane :

Oldschool.

Imo there hasn't really been beauts since 1995 or so.

Buick Regal Grand National / GNX '87 lmao
Toyota Corolla GT (AE86 Levin) (ummm sprots car)
Toyota Supra MkIII & MkIV (ummm sprots car)
Ford Sierra RS Cosworth Sapphire (ummm sprots car)
Opel/Lotus Omega/Carlton/3000/EVO500 (ummm sprots car)
Honda NSX (ummm sprots car)
Dodge M4S (ummm sprots car)
Ok, I admit, I have curious perversion for Plymouth Superbird

Of the new ones pretty much only Mercury Marauder (3rd gen) and Holden Monaro (also 3rd gen) (ummm sprots car) scratched my itch.

in my view muscel cars were only really built in the 1960's and early 1970's

cars like
Ford Mustang /Boss 302,66 fast back
all the ORIGNAL MANARO's
SLR500 torna LG XU1 torry and a few others
not to mention the dodge's and other cars of that era

i think for a car to be a muscel car when you look at it you think *that car wants to eat small children*

hahahahahahah what crack have u been smoken mate what ever it is i want some

lol id be happy for just snow track and a WRC car no need for the bobsled :P

dam miss post lol

Quote from Woz :

Out of interest, if you watch replays of yourself in LFS do you believe you push the car far harder than you would IRL and could this cause the difference?

Not trying to prove anything either way, just drill for info. I ask because it appears common in sim racing for people to over push, the lack of "seat" feel causes this.

quiet the oppisit i beleave that in real life i push my self ALOT harder when on a race track.
(i have allways had no fear when it comes to bikes and car)

but the main real issue i have betwen RL and LFS is in LFS i have alot of infomation i can use to limit my self and in real life all i have is the feel of the car.

the bigest problem i face every time i am on the track is brake's most people dont realize that after just 2 laps the brakes are allmost gone they heat up so quick its hard to even realize when ur driving that they will be compleety gone in a few laps.


@Glenn67
So are you saying once you get to laps 3 and 4 that the grip level is very reduced and then stays at about that level until you pit?

yes what im saying is that for the way i drove after 3/4 laps the tyres were that hot it wasent linair any more.

the tyre's i was using at the time were 235/40/17 very soft direction sports tyre.

i have yet to try with slicks or to likes of RE55's (530$ per tyre) but i beleave that these tyre's would last alot longer then any road tyre in extream driving condition's

so yer in conclusion i can only voice my opnion's i have no real evidence that LFS is wrong just the feel nothing else

just watched all of death note(i think episode 37 the last?)

anyways what a awesome story line no real fights but the story made it good

to quote a old saying
their is no replacement for displacement
and
if you want more inch's stroke it (mostly v8 people should understand this)

anyways i love it i have allway's loved big blocks

i would like 2 real rally cars ie 300 bhp 700fp tq or nm cant rember

and maybe some drag cars

to be honest the i only really enjoy FOX racing now days the other cars are boring :P

and i think proper rally cars with some more FULL dirt corse's would be insane fun

why dont we make it people can get out of the cars and you can interact with the other people oh wait lets make it so we can have sex and go shoping and watch movies.....


wtf seriously if you want to cruise around town and have fun play mafia

man i would love that engine in a old school muscel car put a 6/71 or 8/71 on it and use it as a daily driver

how much is one of them engine's?? 15k usd?

Quote from Glenn67 :

From your experiences can you describe how grip levels vary throughout a run for interest sake

extream loss of grip on road tyres once they get to hot

i was losing about10/20kph turn in on 2nd/3rd gear corner's cause the tyres were just that hot and the back end became extreamly slippery ALOT worse then lfs makes out\


im not sure i can describe but ill give u a run down of one of the runs

warm up lap was all good
lap 1
qr first corner brake at 100 meter sign from 190 to 130 turn in full power befor apex hit 5500 in 3rd gear break down to 110 turn in foot flat controled slide to exit
2nd lap
about the same as first lap
3rd lap
brake for first corner at 140 meter sign at 185ish to 110 turn in easy on power and wait for car to straighten up befor full accelration slow to 95 turn it easy on power till apex then flat slight counter steer/alot of counter steer depending on car
4th lap same
5th same
6th same
7th exited due to pad failer to hot

i cant really describe the hole lap as i dont have hours or good grammer to write it but tyres really lose ALOT of grip when they are to hot

i beleave road tyres in LFS are to durable to heat and dont have enough slip passed grp levels

Last edited by MAD3.0LT, Sun 28 Dec 2008, 13:59.

lol i have

MGS1 was bad 2/3/4 i just skiped them

Quote from Takumi_lfs :

I would like to see the camber being locked.

Same goes for gearbox and other parts.

gear box yes camber NO

you know how easy it is to change the camber in a car??? all it takes is a shifter a jack and about 30mins

server side options to limit setups is the ONLY way till will work