I'm listening to Galaxy 24/7. Really taking a liking to 50s music

found a sweet tool for hacking terminals


http://mediumexposure.com/tech ... al-hacking-tool-fallout-3


got it on the first try a cpl of times

hahah

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I think I can see where your opposition to government spending on social initiatives might've come from.

yup

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So you've currently completely... 6 years of college that you had to pay for? (3 for your BSc, 2 for your MSc, one year of your doctorate?).

Well your commitment is admirable, I'll give you that, but it's a hell of a lot of money to owe and not own a house at the end of it.

4 years BS. 2 years MS... 1.5 more years for PhD. Not always full time student cause I had to work, so it's taking longer than expected.

It completely sucks imho. But I committed myself a long time ago so I gotta go through with it.

It's not hard to incur 200k in student loans. I've been paying them off slowly but G25s ain't going down in price

Quote from thisnameistaken :

All you need to do is collect 200,000 of them and you'll have as many as a homeless person.


Out of interest: How old are you, how many years have you been in college, and what is it you're currently studying towards?

Not loaded questions - I'm just curious about where all that money went.

Good point LOL


28... born in Poland, came to America when I was 8. Left when we were still under Russian communism in 1998.

I've been in school since I was 5 so 23 years :vomit:

Studying chemistry, currently have a masters. Should have a PhD within 2 years. I want to be a college professor to start out. Currently I work for an environmental agency as an analytical chemist.

Just for the record. I'm not trying to alienate people or make enemies.

We are all intitled to our own opinions.

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Should you punish those people because of their lifestyle choice?

you make a lot of sense and I understand where you are coming from. I just don't see how me working very hard to become where I want to be is a bad thing either.

Hell yeah, I'm stressed out that I'm 200k in student debt. You don't know the feeling. I just see the outcome of it all, and hopefully it all pays off.

Quote from Shotglass :

i cant find any realiable source for his death toll but earlier in this thread somebody quoted it at around 100 a day which is 1/3 of what you did over there thus far

and either way since when is saddam a suitable yardstick for killing civilians?

Quote from SamH :

Hang on.. yes I bloody can. Iraq NEVER EVER had a suicide bombing IN ITS HISTORY before we invaded. Do you actually know ANYTHING on this topic? FFS!

I don't want to get into a debate why Iraq was good or bad. I simply don't know much on that topic. But I love how everything strays through missquotes.

Quote from ajp71 :

Have you not seen any of the McCain rallies with supporters openly going round calling Obama every possible racist term, not to mention the monkey dolls, and McCain himself frequently having to defend Obama in his later rallies to keep some credibility to the Republican campaign. Did you also not see the Republican crowd booing in McCain's (actually very good) condolence speech as soon as he mentioned the significance of Obama's election. Keeping bringing up blatantly racist propaganda and we are going to point it out.

I'm not republican. I'm independant. Don't generalize me with the rest of the hate mongrels.

Quote from SamH :

Nobody's attacking you, but they are challenging your beliefs. .

I've been called more names in this thread than in my whole life LOL

Quote from Mazz4200 :

It's perfectly acceptable to have a dream to be successful, i'm sure Obama had that very same dream himself.

But, if you've been working full time since the age of 15 (dunno how old you are now ?) But, if you've managed to amass a debt of over $200,000 then you're quite clearly living way beyond your means, and have had to resort to handouts from banks or whoever. And seeing as the banks have recently had to be propped up by the Federal Government, then doesn't that mean you're dependant on the government to fund your lifestyle ? Just like all these lazies living on 40 bucks a week ?

Debt's not a good thing yunno, that's exactly the reason the worlds in such a financial mess at the moment. It's not a sacrifice you've made, it's a gamble. If you can't pay it back you'll end up either bankrupt, homeless, or both. Or you may even end up passing this debt onto your children, now that's some legacy to leave, innit.

You have no idea why the world is in a financial crisis do you. Start with mortgages that people couldn't afford, brought to you by the democrats. CHANGE. Because they wanted everyone to be able to afford a home, too bad they couldn't make the payments because they couldn't afford it. People need to learn to live within their means. Hence I rent not own.

My debt isn't the problem. Giving out loans so people can study is a bad thing?

Sorry Mazz, but you make no sense in that post.

Quote from SamH :

There were no suicide bombings before we invaded. You can't shirk responsibility for insurgent actions like that. We didn't let the Nazis get away with it in the Nuremberg trials and we're not getting away with it ourselves, now.

You can't say that there were none. And I agree again, things weren't done the way they should have been.

Quote from Shotglass :

excuse me? thats ~325 a day in the ~5.5 years youve been there... how can you possibly value humal life so low?

Saddam, killed way more than that during his reign.


i'm not advocating that what we did was right. i'm just sayin compared to other wars, it's a very low figure.

Being attacked by everyone sucks right now. But I'm just voicing my beliefs.

Quote from SamH :

I'd have begun the process of stopping disproportionate funding of the State of Israel (estimated at $1.8-$3 trillion) and demanded that Israel return all occupied territory back to the Palestinians, the way WE mandated it after WWII. I'd hand over Bush and Blair to the UN for warcrimes. And Ariel Sharon, of course.

That, in my estimation, would halt the risk of terrorism on domestic soil for a while, giving us breathing space to figure out an effective exit strategy from Iraq and Afghanistan. There are a few other things we need to do, but these things are of paramount importance if domestic security and the lives of husbands, wives and children is of any importance.

That's a good answer.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Rest assured that nobody's going to be wanting a piece of what's yours right now.

Anyway: Remind me what happens if you get hit by a truck tomorrow and end up needing extensive hospital treatment. Or if you're diagnosed with something like diabetes. Who pays for that? Sure as hell not you if you're in a $200K hole. So do you just die or something?

I have health insurance through my employer, which is a top priority of mine, unlike a lot of people in america which don't give a sh!t. I pay a lot of my paycheck so I have health insurance. I don't get your post though, is it wrong for me to have a dream to be successful?

Quote from SamH :

Estimates of 655,000 Iraqis have been killed since our occupation. This far exceeds any risk to the population that was EVER posed by Saddam. I would suggest that describing our effect on Iraq as "freeing" them is self-delusional.

How many of those have been by suicide bombers? That's a pretty low figure to 7 years of "occupation." Even though we are training an iraqi army and trying to build a democratic state in iraq.

Quote from Mazz4200 :

You've been working full time earning a living since you were 15, payed your way through college, and now you're $200,000 in debt...... You saying that's something to aspire to ?

What's wrong with sacrificing a little to get a lot in return?

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Just exactly what is your hidden motive behind all this Obama hatred ? It's too late to vote him out of office, and unless you have information that can lead to his impeachment, then i can only guess that you're trying to stir up people to such an extent that some nut goes and takes a shot at Obama, or, if enough of you get together, start a civil war.

Your man lost, accept it, that's life. Sometimes it isn't fair, and you don't always get what you want. But resorting to petty hair-brained excuses to justify why you think he's unsuitable for office is quite frankly childish schoolground nonsense.

Give Obama the opportunity to prove himself, like we all did with W once he'd (*cough*) won the election. But for god's sake if he is as bad as W, don't be so dumb as to vote him back in for another term.

Sure I am. But I can't voice my opinion? You know the saying, opinions are like assho!es, everyones got one.

I'm just debating here. I'm not pressuring everyone to join me. Is it wrong?

Quote from evilpimp :

I would have read a book upside down with little kids, went out in my car, taken out a world map and pointed to a middle eastern country and put a red pin on it saying that I'd attack it.

Actually, I wouldn't attack a country because the terrorists are not the gouvernment of the country but groups that live inside many countries. You can't go bomb all of the middle eastern region just because you have doupts that they may have terrorists somewere in there...

Didn't you see the people rejoicing after Saddam was taken out of power? There are a lot of iraqi people that enjoy freedom that they have never had.

Remember when the statue of Saddam was taken down, the kids beating it with their sandals? I know, media right? But there has to be some truth to it.

Quote from evilpimp :

Meh, I don't know you as a person to know if your actually like this but judging on your posts you seem like a damn selfish person who doesn't understand the concept of sharing at all. (This is off course purely based on your posts, you seem like a nice guy on LFS and vent though meh)

lol i'm the nicest guy I know. I have 2 brothers, shared clothes/toys/everything.


you guys have to stop taking things out of context. i'm not selfish. i'm capitalist. I take a lot of risks, I'm 200k in school debt right now. Do you want me to stand there and let somebody not motivated take what I have earned rightfully so? Capitalism. I pay taxes, as most people. I just don't see why I should spread my wealth when I give up so much to acquire it.

Quote from SamH :

What you don't seem to understand is that 9/11 was not a bunch of terrorists attacking the US "for its freedoms". It was entirely caused by the US's very poor foreign policy in the middle east. That policy hasn't changed (in fact it's just got worse and worse) and until it does change, these freedom fighters will always be looking at ways to attack the US and its allies.

I completely agree. War on terror has a huge "blind spot."


So what would you have done after 9/11 if you were president?

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Ah, so there was never anybody at home to raise you - that explains a lot.

Another personal attack. LOL You guys are great.

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You're pretty big on pride and admiration and all that bollocks, aren't you? You get the warm fuzzies from waving a flag and that's all you want out of it, right?

Some of us aren't so "us and them" all the time. I don't want something if it means I have to take it from someone else. I'd rather share it. For some reason people like me scare the living shit out of you. Why is that?

I don't get the flag innuendo.

So, you want what people earned through sweat and tears handed in your lap? News flash, it ain't easy being successful. It's a tough world out there bro. Gotta earn your living.

Quote from ajp71 :

The BBC news website has 7 news items over the last 10 days of suicide bombings with multiple (civilian) fatalities, a lot of news stories now cover multiple bombings and don't make the headlines because they are just so routine, hardly what I'd call a decrease in terrorist activity.

What about terrorist activities overseas? I'm not talking about bombings in Iraq.

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Ok. Find me a good non-biased article both with strong proof that he was a muslim and that he has directly denied it? Personally I haven't looked into what faith he was born into or practised at an early age, it is as irrelevant as what faith he chooses to follow now in his eligibility to be president. The fact that Americans might just be ready to accept race (although I think your kind are prime examples that not all are) but certainly haven't got over the issue of religion yet.

And again, you bring up race, not me. I have nothing against black people. Seems like all you guys play is the race card.

You'll see something in the next few days. Something is gonna be posted in a national newspaper.

Quote from ajp71 :

About the only thing I think can be established is that he used a nickname and his step father's surname in his younger years and has since changed back to using his birth name. Why this is so shocking I don't know, the 'liberal' media (I don't think you can comprehend that, or read, any media can be prepared in a non-biased fair manner) hasn't considered his childhood nickname to be important to his ability to be president of the US. I know several people who have adopted a nick name and a step parent's surname as their legal name, I wouldn't be suprised if at some point in their life they choose, for personal reasons, to use their birth name again.

He denounced the whole thing. That is my point. He's blatantly lying to the people.

Quote from ajp71 :

What planet are you on? Afghanistan may or may not have had an effect on terrorist groups but was justifiable. Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda and terrorist attacks on the West. In case you have forgotten the official reason we went to war was because Saddam supposedly had weapons of mass destruction, these imaginary weapons presented such an enormous risk to the world that George W and his poodle ignored the fact they had international disapproval, made a complete mockery of the UN and entered a pointless war. What they then found was that rather than being able to quickly restore order and get some kind of PR/oil/American jobs gain out of Iraq they got insurgency causing mayhem, whether there are now any links to Islamic extremists who have attacked Western soil is unclear, but quite likely given that they have inadvertently created an ideal supply of angry people and an uncontrolled country for them.

Terrorist attacks on the West pose almost no danger at all, Katrina killed almost as many as 9/11 (and unlike 9/11 still leaves large numbers of people homeless) but it has been all but forgotten about, probably through a mix of lack of media hype and the fact that it affected predominantly black people which are practically terrorists anyway using the Republican logic.

I can never say it was a good war. But I can assume that Saddam was harboring terrorists. It's a pretty fair assumption also, whatever your view on the war may be. I know Bush was corrupt, I am not a fan of what he did. So, when was the last terrorist strike compared to a few years ago? I don't remember any Al Queda strikes in the recent past. Although, I can recall a sh!t load of them in the distant past. Resemble a correlation?

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Quote from flymike91 :

I was going to get into this, but I can see major syphillis has already killed it. I hope there is a difference between what I sound like when I argue a point, and other "conservatives" on this forum. That kind of "he's a terrorist" bullshit isn't good enough for FOX, especially when there are much more legitimate reasons to dislike the guy.

I'm not sayin he's a terrorist. he's just not credible.

Quote from ajp71 :

Any kind of citeable source (not CNN)? Putting Obama and muslim into google gets this as the first response. I think the chain e-mails pretty much sum it up. I think the fact that half the Repulican campaign was trying to spell this message that Obama is black=muslim=evil terrorist was frighteningly effective at getting votes, thankfully not all of America is quite that backwards..

Google barry soetoro... you're not the mister know it all, are you?

Quote from evilpimp :

Also, you pay for college don't you? If you were born in poverty were would you get that money from?

I've been working full time since I was 15. Yea, I couldn't go out and party all the time with my friends but I made that sacrifice. Paid myself through school. Currently in debt 200k+ with student loans. If I can do, anyone can. But instead they choose to get high or whatever. I didn't let my parents contribute anything to my education as I saw the hardship they've endured to bring me to America. Some people are just lazy.

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Quote from thisnameistaken :

Right. So people who inherit wealth and are free to enjoy a lazy, opulent lifestyle (I'm not suggesting that Tristan himself is lazy) are to be admired. OK.

Is it his fault that his family had determination? No one is admired. Anyone can do it, even you.

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But people who are born into poverty and don't escape are to be castigated?

I hope your reasoning skills improve if you plan to achieve a doctorate in something or other - despite your apparent incapability of spelling the word "doctorate".

Anyone can escape poverty. My parents came to america with 3 kids and no money. My dad has been working 15 hour days for the last 20 years. My mom works 48 hours. They live comfortably through hard work.

And no need to be a grammar nazi, oh well I misspelled a word on a forum, big deal.

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Who says he was a muslim?

Your last president hooked up top jobs for a bunch of his oil executive buddies, then sent thousands of your young men to die in foreign wars in order to provide fat pay checks to those cronies. That's called corruption but apparently it's OK by you. Presumably because someone in Bush's ancestral line managed to make a few bucks and you think all their descendants should be admired for it?

All politics are corrupt. No denying that. Even your man Obama is receiving perks as we speak.

Don't patronize soldiers that died for their country. They joined the armed forces with the knowledge of self sacrifice. I have a lot of friends that have fought in Iraq and are damned proud of their service. Fight on terror isn't conventional warfare. Yeah, it's been drawn out but you can't deny the positive of "allies" being in Iraq/Afganistanm probably saved hundreds of innocent lives already as many terrorist acts have been put to rest because of "our" occupation.

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Quote from thisnameistaken :

So have Americans.

You're a classic thick American; you don't know anything about muslims but Fox News says he's a bad man because he knew someone who was a muslim and therefore might be a muslim and you swallow the whole thing and even evangelise for them whilst admitting you haven't a clue what they're talking about?

No need for personal attacks. Can't we all have different views without being judged?

You bring up Fox news as your only defense. I read more media that you'd comprehend.


He was a muslim and now denies it to be elected president. Yeah, it's called hypocrisy and I don't stand for it.

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Quote from thisnameistaken :

Tristan's family own their own successful business, which employs Tristan and which Tristan will no doubt one day inherit. He's made his feelings clear about the working class before - I think he called us "scum". So it's safe to say he'd rather see low taxes, low public spending, no state benefits, no national health service etc. because he personally has had a very privileged upringing and likely will never need them.

That is called capitalism. Something I'm very proud of here in America. Someone in his life made a lot of sacrifices to bring the business up. With enough determination, anyone can do it. You can't blame Tristan that his forefathers worked very hard to be where they are at now. I admire that.

I come from a middle class family. I am putting myself through college and so is my GF, we both will have doctorite degrees in the near future. I am working my ass off to become successful, you have no idea (school 24/7 and a full time job). And I don't see how people sit on their asses and feed off of the gov't.

One of the main reasons why I'm anti Obama, socializing isn't solving, it's enabling people to be lazy.

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First, I'd like to applaud everyone for not personally attacking others. First and foremost, were all here because we share a love for LFS.

Quote from ajp71 :

Why couldn't a muslim be elected president? Or any other faith for that matter, your countries constitution segregated church and state, it seems sad that in recent years it has moved backwards.

I seem to remember someone was booed into the White House after votes were discounted in a prominently black area that were expected to vote overwhelmingly for a white Democratic candidate.

It's not that he's muslim, it's the fact that he totally denied ever being muslim. Although, and I'm speaking out of ignorance as I don't know too many muslims. But they have been given a very bad rep after 9/11.


Politics are corrupt, even Obama, just facts of life I guess.