Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Well if you could explain to me what the issue is it might help, because from what you have posted so far it just looks like ignorance and racism.

Why do we care so much about what America does? I've deleted everything I wrote here, I just don't see the pint of explaining something you should know, some patriot you are when you don't even understand what the American Dream is and what it means to the world.

My last video link describes my issue. Obama has a very sketchy past. Only been involved in gov't for a couple of years, no experience. It's not about racism, the fact that he used to be a muslim and now denies that ever being true. The racist church that he belonged to for 20 years. Google, barry soetoro. You even ever hear of it. Imo Obama has very deep underlying issues, that do not fair well with our constitution.

You guys rag and tag on people who voted republican as some racists. But 97% of blacks that voted, voted for Obama, 47% of those first time voters and I suppose more than 50% voted because of one thing, race. So, who is the racist?

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Only people that post blatently racist video links like you did earlier, there are perfectly legitimate reasons to not support Obama "he aint like us" is not one of them.

EDIT: You should also try to form your own opinions, rather than listening to what the media and your friends tell you. Go read some books, and make sure you don't buy them from those nice white guys with short hair that like group meetings and setting fire to crosses.

lol thanks for the laugh, you have no clue on this issue. And honestly, don't know why anyone outside the US would put so much effort into defending someone else's president elect.

This sums up my feelings for Obama.

http://alwaysonwatch2.blogspot ... video-obama-strategy.html



Plus, I find it amusing that everyone here throws up the race card to anyone against Obama LOL

http://cdn1.ustream.tv/swf/4/viewer.45.swf?cid=317016

http://people.msoe.edu/~gormand/canihavemyspiderbackot3.gif

Quote from J@tko :

I dunno how useful this would be (I'm not fitness guru :P) but maybe just playing recreational sports such as tennis/football or whatever a couple of times a week too might help?

I play badminton twice a week and that certainly helps me keep fitter

+1 except for badminton I thought only fairies played that

and the witch hunt begins...

Quote :

The Supreme Court and Obama’s Birth Certificate
Posted on November 7, 2008 by organicpeas

If The Supreme Court Decides…?

At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter’s Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.

“I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate,” says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. “They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect.”

Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.

Ohh, and based on this video alone... wondering who you guys would vote for if you lived in America?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix7DkrkIy_I

Last edited by major_syphillis, Mon 10 Nov 2008, 04:43.

Quote from SamH :

www.timesonline.co.uk <-- the paper that your article claims published the original article. I had a quick look through and I don't see it on their website. If it had been published in the Sunday Times, it would certainly be available online.

Quote from Blackout :

And as Sam mentioned, the original article can't be found on their web page. Really seems like propaganda, FOX and 9/11 references should give it away really.

Quote from ajp71 :

I wouldn't believe The Times would print such an article though, and if they had it would have probably attracted some controversy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t ... d/iraq/article4276486.ece

On a side note: Here is Obama's first press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9VcS-EF7T0

Quote from SamH :

Although you'll probably get branded a "liberal" for stating inconvenient facts

lol

You don't know how right you are :tit:


although there are plenty of libs there and seem to hold their own as well.

Last edited by major_syphillis, Sat 8 Nov 2008, 02:31.

Quote from Shotglass :

meh... at leat this thread confirms what we all knew about corvette drivers already

whats that?

I'm done debating this as I seem to be the only one on this side of the issue Just wanted to know the legitimacy of this article.

Quote from SamH :

Where did you get this article? Please don't tell me it was sent to you in a chain email. I hate to have my time wasted.

http://forums.corvetteforum.co ... re-usa-liberal-media.html

Quote from Blackout :

So, what is your point on this article which was apparently released back in early July and what it has anything to do with the elections?

It's like you trying to change the topic here.

you guys are the only ones i know of overseas, was wondering if it was true... chill

have you guys heard about this in the UK? Copy/Paste off of another forum.

Quote :

What the Brits know and understand!

COL AJ Kessel (Ret)

Subject: London Times Scoops Entire USA Liberal Media Networks
To:
Ready for a shock? Below is an article from the London Times about our
military.


Winning Isn't News
By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY



Iraq : What would happen if the U.S. won a war but the media didn't tell the
American public? Apparently, we have to rely on a British newspaper for the
news that we've defeated the last remnants of al-Qaida in Iraq .

London 's Sunday Times called it 'the culmination of one of the most
spectacular victories of the war on terror.' A terrorist force that once
numbered more than 12,000, with strongholds in the west and central regions
of Iraq , has over two years been reduced to a mere 1,200 fighters, backed
against the wall in the northern city of Mosul .

The destruction of al-Qaida in Iraq (AQI) is one of the most unlikely and
unforeseen events in the long history of American warfare. We can thank
President Bush's surge strategy, in which he bucked both Republican and
Democratic leaders in Washington by increasing our forces there instead of
surrendering.

We can also thank the leadership of the new general he placed in charge
there, David Petraeus, who may be the foremost expert in the world on
counter-insurgency warfare. And we can thank those serving in our military
in Iraq who engaged local Iraqi tribal leaders and convinced them America
was their friend and AQI their enemy.

Al-Qaida's loss of the hearts and minds of ordinary Iraqis began in Anbar
Province, which had been written off as a basket case, and spread out from
there.

Now, in Operation Lion's Roar the Iraqi army and the U.S. 3rd Armored
Cavalry Regiment is destroying the fraction of terrorists who are left.
More than 1,000 AQI operatives have already been apprehended.

Sunday Times reporter Marie Colvin, traveling with Iraqi forces in Mosul ,
found little AQI presence even in bullet-ridden residential areas that were
once insurgency strongholds, and reported that the terrorists have lost
control of its Mosul urban base, with what is left of the organization
having fled south into the countryside.

Meanwhile, the State Department reports that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri
al-Maliki's government has achieved 'satisfactory' progress on 15 of the 18
political benchmarks 'a big change for the better from a year ago.'

Things are going so well that Maliki has even for the first time floated
the idea of a timetable for withdrawal of American forces. He did so while
visiting the United Arab Emirates , which over the weekend announced that
it was forgiving almost $7 billion of debt owed by Baghdad , an impressive
vote of confidence from a fellow Arab state in the future of a free Iraq .

But where are the headlines and the front-page stories about all this good
news? As the Media Research Center pointed out last week, 'the CBS Evening
News, NBC Nightly News and CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 were silent Tuesday
night about the benchmarks 'that signaled political progress.'

The war in Iraq has been turned around180 degrees both militarily and
politically because the president stuck to his guns. Yet apart from IBD, Fox
News Channel and parts of the foreign press, the media don't seem to
consider this historic event a big story.

Copyright 2008 Investor's Business Daily. All Rights Reserved.

Addendum: The reason you haven't seen this on American television or read
about it in the American press is simple--journalism is 'dead' in this
country. They are controlled by Liberals who would rather see our
troops defeated than recognize a successful Republican initiated response to
9/11

theres a cracked version of iracing out, all cars all tracks just no online play.

Quote from amp88 :

It's not that difficult to go to a server and not be banned. Go to a different server and obey the rules. I don't think I've ever been banned before.

go to redline Get your cherry popped for no reason at all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfWYCiCsf3E

Voted yes. Why not give them some space. All the demo racer trashing gets old here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5emDj5duGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp0F1tJ94yA

Quote from Mazz4200 :

I don't wanna make it sound like Obama is the new messiah or anything, he isn't. But, give the guy a chance, put all your pessimism to one side for a while and give him the support he asked for during his victory speech. And if he does turn out to be an incompetant dud, then simply don't vote for him next time. Just like you did with George Dubyah...oh no, that's not right, is it...

QFT!

I encourage some of you to visit

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=88


Mostly conservative members, a few liberals. But some of the posts there are

I updated the link with the offical vote count.


Sorry, previous link was outdated.


http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/

Quote from Mazz4200 :

Fascinating little graph that. I see Arizona is listed as undecided Havn't checked the full results, but how close was it in the end ?

click on state http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/


to me it was a pretty close race. Obama won by electoral votes but the whole population as a whole was divided 50/50.

Last edited by major_syphillis, Thu 6 Nov 2008, 22:21.

Quote from ajp71 :

I absolutely love this, never actually thought it could be proved quite so literally that Republicans are stupid brainless idiots!

did you catch the bottom of that chart?


IQ testing done by UK

Also, check out this link bro

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/stateiq.asp


Funny, all those numbers are the same huh? It's total BS by the dems.

Take these into account and then have a look at your chart http://sq.4mg.com/IQ-States.htm

Last edited by major_syphillis, Thu 6 Nov 2008, 21:54.

This is good. I'm beginning to understand why Obama has so much support overseas.

Time will tell if any good comes out of his presidency.