Unless you're a white, right wing Christian you're a communist, didn't you know that?
Unless you're a white, right wing Christian you're a communist, didn't you know that?
LOL!
Why don't you, you know, look it up? The "we don't know who he is and what he stands for"-mantra is really getting pathetic. The information is right there if you actually cared. Which you obviously don't as it's easier to parrot the latest Republican talking-points ad nauseum.
I don't understand the fear people seem to have, they seem afraid of someone intelligent enough to realise you can never win a war against terrorism, and someone that realises you can't rely on rich people giving tax deductable donations to their friends and family to save your economy. If you don't understand Obama and what he wants to do as president, then he has published two best selling books that should tell you all you want to know. But I expect the people opposed to him either can't read, or won't buy a book with a black man on the cover that has no naked blonde women with fake tits in it.
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OK, so what did you want to say? That Obama is being hyped, or that he heading for dictatorship?
holy crap I never said he was a commie, I was saying that his idea of change is going to come at great expense, either to jobs in heavy industry or utilities, or the monetary expense of his overreaction to the climate shift.
In Cuba, everything is paid for, almost everything from the government is free, but those things are worthless because they have no economy to fuel it. Cubans greeted Fidel just as the left greets Obama not because I believe they are both communists, but because Obama has promised great, wonderful, revolutionary things that he can never make good on.
Moose, it is the job of the Republicans to face Obama head-on right now, before he even comes into office. We don't have a couple of years to give him a chance. We gave Carter a chance too, and today's inflation is lukewarm compared to the double-digit inflation of those years. He proposes a Cap and Trade system at a time when heavy industry is working harder than ever just to stay in business, we must shoot it down before it begins.
In Cuba, everything is paid for, almost everything from the government is free, but those things are worthless because they have no economy to fuel it. Cubans greeted Fidel just as the left greets Obama not because I believe they are both communists, but because Obama has promised great, wonderful, revolutionary things that he can never make good on.
Moose, it is the job of the Republicans to face Obama head-on right now, before he even comes into office. We don't have a couple of years to give him a chance. We gave Carter a chance too, and today's inflation is lukewarm compared to the double-digit inflation of those years. He proposes a Cap and Trade system at a time when heavy industry is working harder than ever just to stay in business, we must shoot it down before it begins.
Funny how much this sounds like the retarded ideology that took us into the Iraq quagmire.
The cubans have no economy because the US made sure they didn't have one, it wouldn't look good if the communist country next door not only had better health care but also a stronger economy.
The republicans have destroyed the US economy and failed to prevent a global financial crises which will leave China as an economic superpower, and Russia will become an energy superpower in the future unless we find alternative fuel sources. Not only that but they have stretched the US army to breaking point. If you don't allow change to take place and allow the republicans to continue in the direction they have, then your worst fears could be realised and the world would be a different kind of red to the republican red.
The republicans have destroyed the US economy and failed to prevent a global financial crises which will leave China as an economic superpower, and Russia will become an energy superpower in the future unless we find alternative fuel sources. Not only that but they have stretched the US army to breaking point. If you don't allow change to take place and allow the republicans to continue in the direction they have, then your worst fears could be realised and the world would be a different kind of red to the republican red.
This sums up my feelings for Obama.
http://alwaysonwatch2.blogspot ... video-obama-strategy.html
Plus, I find it amusing that everyone here throws up the race card to anyone against Obama LOL
http://alwaysonwatch2.blogspot ... video-obama-strategy.html
Plus, I find it amusing that everyone here throws up the race card to anyone against Obama LOL
Only people that post blatently racist video links like you did earlier, there are perfectly legitimate reasons to not support Obama "he aint like us" is not one of them.
EDIT: You should also try to form your own opinions, rather than listening to what the media and your friends tell you. Go read some books, and make sure you don't buy them from those nice white guys with short hair that like group meetings and setting fire to crosses.
It's the turrirists taking over the world, quick hide!
lol thanks for the laugh, you have no clue on this issue. And honestly, don't know why anyone outside the US would put so much effort into defending someone else's president elect.
You think he's a secret agent working for the Saudi royal family, based on a few clips edited together from Fox News?
Too bad for you that the Republicans have no real power in Washington, at least for another four years.:huepfenic:woohoo:
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Oh! are my loyalties showing? Yeah
And I am a believer that with McCain my dad would be out of a job fairly fast. Not that it maybe isn't too late already. 25% of Chrysler employees will lose their jobs by the end of the month. This is very stressful in Michigan.
Also I have no desire to wake up to the local radio show playing a clip of McCain saying "I dunno, I'm a maverick, and bombing Iran just seemed like the thing to do." To me at least, Obama showed a much greater ability to talk with conflicting ideas and find some common ground. America has lost a lot of respect from countries that I actually think have a better way of running things than my own country's sometimes. (Read: blatant sucking-up to all the Brits, Canadians, etc. out there.
)Well if you could explain to me what the issue is it might help, because from what you have posted so far it just looks like ignorance and racism.
Why do we care so much about what America does? I've deleted everything I wrote here, I just don't see the pint of explaining something you should know, some patriot you are when you don't even understand what the American Dream is and what it means to the world.
My last video link describes my issue. Obama has a very sketchy past. Only been involved in gov't for a couple of years, no experience. It's not about racism, the fact that he used to be a muslim and now denies that ever being true. The racist church that he belonged to for 20 years. Google, barry soetoro. You even ever hear of it. Imo Obama has very deep underlying issues, that do not fair well with our constitution.
You guys rag and tag on people who voted republican as some racists. But 97% of blacks that voted, voted for Obama, 47% of those first time voters and I suppose more than 50% voted because of one thing, race. So, who is the racist?
This is too true I think sometimes... I am sorry for the 46% of my country that actually does get their info from edited youtube videos showing fox news, but at least there are more of us educated folk now.
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Maybe they are somewhat, but there is a difference between being proud of your own and attacking others because of race. And Obama was able to win, in large part, because of his ability to make race a non-issue.
I don't think he needs any defending. It would be impossible to screw things up any worse than "W" did.
The leader of our country is important to all countries. It is people who cannot see this are a big part of the reason that we are in the spot we are in... you know... the one where everyone who isn't from the U.S. wants to nuke the shit out of us.
Give the dude a shot. I don't agree with everything he says either, but rest assured the man isn't the devil reincarnated as a black dude named Obama.
I'll tell you like I told a co-worker... A white man voting for another white man because that is who he is most comfortable with is not racism. A white man who votes for a white man because his opponent is a black man, that is racism.
I would make a very large wager to say that at least 60% (probably much larger) of republicans are racist. More like 90% down here in the deep south.
Personally, I think a Democrat government will only lead to very bad things indeed (much like Labour has in Britain). Time will tell, and I hope I'm proven wrong.
I'm not saying people who voted republican are racist, that would be stupid. I'm saying your reasons for disliking Obama are clearly racist and based on speculation and lies fed to you in a dumbed down format that allows your intolerant mind to understand them, and when you are called out for having nothing to support your views other than a youtube video saying "he 'ent one of us", you seem to adobt the republican strategy of deflecting criticism by attacking the oppositions personal integrity.
I have an interesting statistic for you to research, how many of those 97% are living in poverty? I'm willing to bet the large majority of them are, and they didn't want to elect a leader that would keep on giving tax breaks to rich people. I think this election was not about black vs white, it was rich vs poor, and the poor majority made their voices heard. How many plumbers do you know that earn over $150,000 a year?
Any particular reason why you feel that way? I'm just curious.
None, but the ironic thing is that was a Republican tactic. Using a McCain supporter. Thing is, it did nothing but prove the opposition's point.
Tristan's one of the UK's relatively extreme right wing, basically. Yeah, we have 'em too... though not as many as in the US obviously. British politics balance out somewhere to the far left of US politics (socialised medicine, state pensions, interpretation of democracy etc) but we have a few on the forum with a less conventional political perspective than the main.
The danger is they do things to make it appear as if there is a change so that they get elected again, rather than actually fixing the problems for the long term. It's a different system to the UK though, we elect parties not leaders, and I think Obama will make sure his party don't interfere with his ambitions, having read his book if he does what he believes in then we have nothing to worry about.
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