Works fine for me with U30

Maxim

Taking the battery out didn't work as it then hung before I could even get into the bios. However, it must be linked to the build process as I tried it again after assembling it into a spare case and this time it seemed to work and windows installed correctly. It could also be memory linked as I also moved the single 1GB module at the same time so I can't tell if either of these had an effect. It currently has one IDE drive and one CD drive so I don't know what will happen once I populate the other channels and add a SATA drive.

I am not counting any chickens yet and it is in the wrong case so I have to decide if I want to continue and switch it into its intended home. I will probably try loading the IDE channels in the current case and add the other memory module and see how it copes before removing it and transferring it over.

I need to get this sorted now as my new 22" LCD (£234 inc VAT ) is due to arrive today and I feel the need to test it

Thanks to all for the moral support which helped keep my sanityillepall

Maxim

done a bit more research and it seems I am not the only one to have trouble with this motherboard.

Quote :

After reading promising reviews about this board and admiring many things about it such as its layout which I thought looked good and active cooling of the Northbridge I decided it looked like a good bet for my new X2 4600 powered monster. WHAT A MISTAKE!!! After 50 failed windows installations using both SATA and IDE to boot from and both X64 and XP Pro 32bit I admitted defeat and decided to ditch this board completely. As a bonus it managed to corrupt an IDE partition with all my backed up data on it resulting in quite a few 4 letter words on my part. It also has a weird habbit of failing to initialise at all or preventing you from entering BIOS immediatley after pressing the reset button on your case. Others have also noticed this online.

I immediately replaced it with the ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe SKT939 RD580 ATX which worked like a charm and did everthing first time without faff. X64 is now on and flying using everything that wouldnt work with this hideous board. It is also laid out badly and problematic to fit and has a poor manual to boot (which is more than I can say for Windows on IDE or SATA)

This board is as effective as a cat flap in an elephant house and don t even consider it if planning to use SATA. Check the online forums for countless tails of woe regarding putting windows on. Wish I had!!! Get the better ASUS alternative. Save your time, your sanity and your data as its only about £10 more and it actually works which is usefull.

But this post may hold a clue

Quote :

Jusy built a PC for a customer and this Mobo caught me out. Thanks to Richard the Teccy the problem was solved. Disconect all power cables and pull out the battery. Also switch the Cmos jumper to off for twenty minutes. Reverse this action and switch it on.

I used an AMD Venive Athlon 64bit 3200 CPU and two sticks of Kingston DDR (512mgs each matching pair) at 400FSB.

One more problem - the IDE strap was faulty.

Overall this MOBO runs like a dream after the first hiccup (which may be designed to trip up the Lamerz) and my customer took posession. He is as happy as a sandboy. I didn't overclock it, just left it running at 2Gightz. Nice board.

Last edited by MaximUK, Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:43.

Thanks for the suggestions.

I didn't have the SATA drive in there for most attempts other than the times I was attempting to install to it. I have tried all combinations of hard drives that I could think of and also tried changed cables but nothing seemed to have any effect. I tried the hard drives in another pc and none had any trouble in the new pc.

The bios always detected them ok and for those times I had SMART enabled they all reported themselves as ok. I haven't tried flashing the bios or getting newer SATA drivers although for the majority of my attempts.

I enabled/disabled all combinations of things I could think of in the bios, including things like LAN and sound just in case but none seemed to have any effect.

At the moment the motherboard in back in the box it came in and the pc is happily running on the old motherboard with all the other hardware the same including cables.

I might give it another go at the weekend if I feel I can face another frustrating waste of time. I don't want to RMA it until I am sure it isn't something I have done but I am running out of ideas and patience.

Maxim

If the install routine creates just one more partition then tells me it is not windows compatible, the whole lot is going to find the true meaning of pain during an appointment in the garage with a 14lb sledge hammer and the warm glow of a blow torch:smash3d::weeping:

And just when you think it can't get worse, there's no beer in the fridge !

Times like this I think Basil Faulty had it right all along.

AFter my last thread it seemed my computer problems might be linked to a weak power supply. I decided I was going to bite the bullet and upgrade the motherboard so I could use a SATA drive I had waiting for a home so I bought a new power supply (620W) and a DFI Lanparty RX200 motherboard.

Build went fine but for now I left the old IDE drives in place. I prepared to install WinXP. During the install routine I reformatted the old C: partition and the install copied the first lot of files into it. On reboot if failed to recognise that this had happened and it all started again from the beginning. This time however, it said the C: partition "does not contain a WinXP compatible partition". I deleted it and recreated it but the same message.
I removed the old hard drive and put a brand new IDE drive in its place. Same problem of not recognising it was WinXP compatible and I also didn't get the chance to repartition it.

Took drive out, installed in another pc, partitioned it and formatted it. Returned it to the new PC - same message.

Thought it might be because WinXP CD was original and couldn't cope with 300+GB. Slipstreamed SP2 onto it and created a fresh WinXP SP2 install CD.
Success. Install of windows took place and pc ran fine for about 2 hours. Came home from work tonight and on boot reports hard drive failure.
Tried to reinstall windows and back to square one. Drive does not contain Xp compatible partition.

tried with original drives, same problem. Tried to install to SATA drive - not recognised although drivers added during install process.

Other than the motherboard is screwed is there anything else that could be causing this?


Maxim

Whatever it is is a bit intermittent as I managed 3x10 lap races today with no reboot.

When it goes, it goes right back to reboot, no blue screen. I have changed the setting as suggested to not quto reboot.

I have ordered myself a coolermaster 620W. It wasn't much more than the 400W and I thought it would cover me from when I go Crossfireillepall

Maxim

Thanks for the help sdether. I think I am close now but I still can't get OutSim data.

I start LFS with \inSim 29999
then my code is (ignore any _ characters as they are added to aid reading the code)
Dim InSimHandler As New InSim.InSimHandler(True, False)
Dim WithEvents outSimHandler As New OutSim.OutSimHandler(30001)
Dim OutSimPacket As OutSim.Events.PhysicsState

then inside the Connect button event:

With InSimHandler
_____With .Configuration
________.LFSHost = "127.0.0.1"
________.LFSHostPort = 29999
________ .UseSplitMessages = True
________ .ReplyPort = "30000"
_____End With
___ Try
______.Initialize(10)
______ tb_feedback.Text = "connected to InSim"
___ Catch ex As ___FullMotion.LiveForSpeed.InSim.Exceptions.InSimHandlerException.ConnectionFailed
______ MsgBox("failed to make connection")
___ End Try
End With

With outSimHandler
___ .Initialize()
End With

InSimHandler.SendMessage("are we talking?")
InSimHandler.StartOutSim(25)
tb_feedback.Text = "started OutSim at 25ms updates"

I then have an outSimHandler_Updated(....) event but it doesn't seem to trigger. InSim seems ok as it displays messages in-game ok

I wanted to enable InSim as well as OutSim so I can push messages into LFS while developing the software.

Maxim

It managed to run 3d mark 5 times before crashing. It rebooted itself and I ran it again but it managed 5 more without a problem.

It managed to run prime in blended stress test mode for 5 hours with no trouble.

CPU and case temps only rose about 1 or 2C

Using ATI tool suggested by SparkyDave I found that my graphics card has a temperature probe on it and it runs at about 60C. I overclocked it and it then ran at 72C even with a faster fan. I tested it with 3d mark again which was the second set of 5 I mentioned above. It had no trouble even at the higher temp so I thought "try LFS".

I managed about 22 laps this time before it rebooted. I am now suspecting the power supply. Does this sound likely?

Maxim

Thanks for the feedback/suggestions.

I have downloaded 3dmark03 and prime test. So far it has run 3d mark 2 times without a problem with a score of around 14,800 if that makes a difference.
CPU temp is 35C, case is 34C and the hard drive with a temperature probe is at 40C. These are fairly typical temperatures and similar to when it reboots itself. I don't have a probe on the graphics card but I have checked the fan is turning. No dust problem yet as it is only about 6 months old since I assembled it.

System specs are
Athlon 64 - 3700
2 x 1 Gb DDR 400 Ram
ATI 1800XTX
Audigy 2 sound card
No other expansion cards
There are 3 hard drives and 2 dvds
It has 4 case fans attached to a fan controller.
The power supply is rated at 550W but is just a generic one.
It is running WinXP SP2

Other gamers installed ! Who has time? I do have Oblivion installed which does give my pc a good workout so I will let the Mrs know I am under instructions to play it for a few hours

How do I check the event log?

It has run faultlessly until a few weeks ago when this problem started happening. It runs fine when not stressed but 8 laps is about as far as I can get in LFS. Is it possible so update to windows has installed itself and is causing the trouble or would that be more likely to cause a BSD rather than a reboot?

I will let you know if it survives running firstly 3d mark and then prime over night.

Thanks again

Maxim

I am having trouble with my pc in that it reboots itself.

I suspect a heat problem although I have a fan monitor and the case and CPU temps are fine. I have used a memory stress test program and it hasn't run into any problems. It doesn't seem to have any trouble just being left on but about 8 laps of Aston Nat is about the most it can manage without a crash.

I guess that leaves Graphic card over heating or power supply failing as the next most likely candiates?

Does anyone know how best to test either of these? Are there graphic stress test routines I can run to give it a good workout to see if that can reproduce the problem?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Maxim

Can somebody give me a pointer as I am a bit stuck.

I am trying to hook into LFS using this lib with visual Basic Express 2005.

I have declared

Dim handler As New InSim.InSimHandler(True, False)

and then inside a button event I have

With handler
With .Configuration
.LFSHost = "127.0.0.1"
.LFSHostPort = 29999
.UseSplitMessages = True
End With

Try
.Initialize(10)
Catch ex As FullMotion.LiveForSpeed.InSim.Exceptions.InSimHandlerException.ConnectionFailed
MsgBox("failed to make connection")

End Try


End With

Unfortunately it fails to find LFS and pretty much hangs the game, even when I have shut my routine down. I have probaby missed something very basic as I am only just starting with VB so any helpful pointers would be appreciated.

I am only really wanting to connect with outsim if it makes a difference.

thanks

Maxim

My experience with Pro damage in GPL is that you lose most of the field before the end. Unfortunately the innocent get taken out as well as the guilty. Add in a few mistakes and you end up with few finishers. Fine for the finishers although not very satisfying but frustrating for the innocent victims. It might be different in LFS because the road cars can survive minor contact. In GPL touch wheels and you both go into orbit.

The idea of radiator damage might help though as this will only affect the driver behind, the driver going too fast under yellow and the driver trying to go too fast for a corner. Being rear ended by someone who seems to think a slower car is also a ghost car would generally see only one victim.

I do sometimes wonder where the pleasure comes from for some people. It is almost like anything between them and the win doesn't mean anything. They gain no pleasure for lining up someone for a pass and executing it cleanly when it is for a meaningless place. Generally speaking very few peolple are going to win any particular race so why not race the person in front rather then just going flat out and treating anything that gets in the way as an annoyance. Maybe the individual's fastest lap should be an option that can be switched off from the results table?

I look forward to the time when game AI can take over the role of race steward. Until then this problem will always exist.

Maxim

Quote from Sticky-Micky :

will LFS use the 1024 version if its in the skinsx folder?

Yes, it will use whatever it finds in the skinsx folder or download a 512 version if it doesn't find one of the correct name.

Maxim

Rather than use the auto skin download to get 512x512 versions of each other's skins, maybe it would be a good idea to post the 1024x1024 versions here to improve the look of each other's cars? Afterall, there are only 80 of us

Here is mine for anyone who wants it.

Maxim

I get the backfire sounds and the low fuel warning radio messages but none of the other radio messages. My name appears in the driver detection line and I have turned off the auto detect.

Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

Maxim

P.S. I am also running the LFSspotter mod which works fine. I launch LFSC, then spotter then lfs with/49999 using a batch file. What port should spotter be tuned to?

Edit2: Sorted it. I had forgotten to change pitspotter back to its original port of 29999 after changing it to the same port of LFSC during testing.

Last edited by MaximUK, Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:24.

Thanks AndroidXP, all sorted.

Maxim

Was a solution found for this problem?

Offline LFS runs fine, but every server I have tried to join (max 50ms) LFS is broken up into 5 second sections with a half second freeze inbetween.

I am returning the lfs after a 1 year break and I have never had this problem before. My pc is much faster than it was last time I ran lfs and so is my internet connection. I have experienced lag before and the effect is quite different. With lag you carry on fine but the other cars tend to leap to their correct positions when the server syncs up again. With the problem I am having you just stop, pause, then start again from the same position with no leap forward.

I haven't tried raising the minimum sleep value though so I will try that tonight.

Thanks

Maxim

Edit - I increased the minimum sleep to its maximum value of 20ms but it still happens

Last edited by MaximUK, Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:50.

Have you all seen the P4 patch thread?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=2335

Before this patch there was a bug that affects how much fuel gets transferred to a new driver when switching. Anyone driving in the team event should probably make sure they have this installed otherwise the new driver may find himself running out of fuel.

Maxim

Thanks Frank. Please accept I wrote it at the height of my disappointment and I was annoyed at myself for not having written the password down as much as anything. I don't think I want to know if it was in the history (didn't know about the T button) as I will just be more annoyed. :dunce: It got worse as time went on as I decided to watch the England v Northern Ireland game ....

Hi TDSyco. I am not sure you would have seen me very often except when you lapped me as my times are much slower than yours:turtle2:. I am disappointed that I missed the early season but unfortunately things changed for me and it was unavoidable. I miss the next 3 Wednesday's as I am going away on holiday but I will do my best to get in your way once I get back :eclipsee_

Maxim

Due to lack of numbers in divs B and C it was decided to combine the two leagues. I have no trouble with that but I am slightly annoyed to say the least about how it was done.

The password for Div B was given out and I thought I had it ok. Unfortunately because the passwords are not real words there is some margin for error and when I tried to join Div B I found I must have remebered a letter wrong.

I thought no problem, I will switch back to Div C and wait there for someone to return when they realise I can't get in. sadly this was not possible as the server for div C had already been shut down.

There is no no way for me to race as for some reason the web site restricts access to passwords for the other divisions. How you think I am going to abuse knowing all 3 passwords I don't know but it does mean I have no way of racing now and the practicing I have been doing is all for nothing.

2 lessons maybe (well 3 if you include writing down the wierd passwords before leaving the server)
1. Why not let us have all of the paswords and trust us to be able to go to the right server and/or
2. leave the other server open long enough so I would at least have had a way of contacting the admins again to get the password.

Maxim