any mprs available?

Reassuring to hear that others are finding it slower too, I find it frustrating but still don't want to go back to paddle shifting road cars.

This will probably sound pretentious but should we invent a name suffix which lets people know we're running gated shifter, 720 degrees, heel-toe, cockpit view? Something like nickname.G25x?

Maybe not

Quote from Blackout :

Hmm...was that method called as button clutching then?

I knew it as macro-clutching, bearing in mind this is 2 years back in S1 days though!

Basically the macro meant LFS thought your button was an actual analogue clutch pedal moving very fast.

Quote from 11SuLLy11 :

haha,is it know the be "cheating"

No no! I said it wasn't cheating! :talktohan:stan:

You can't do macro clutching anymore, so button clutching is fine! :Handshake

I think if you miss the optimum braking point by a margin you shouldn't be looking to turn towards the apex, you should accept a wider line so as not to affect anyone behind you, this way you can brake deep into the corner and coast around the outside before picking up speed again, exactly as felplacerad did in his video. :wizard:

Quote from Blackout :

Yes, check my mighty edit (was faster than the forums, yay!).

It was thought as cheating in S1 I'm sure, don't know if it's the same in S2 that you can gain some time with it.
Cheating is a strong word, but, unfair advantage maybe?

Was faster than the forums for the second time...yay!

In S1 you could set a button to do manual clutch using macros, that was cheating, button clutch is OK because it simulates the time it takes to press the pedal [etals:]

If I remember correctly LFS used to use the exact system you describe, where the clutch disengages whilst you're holding the shift button.

There was a time when people wrote macros to change gears and perform the clutch in one fast action (quicker than could be done with a pedal), this "macro-clutching" was banned in the more pro-orientated leagues and may be the reason why it's changed now.

Quote from W1LLSD4D :

mmm, apparently I've gone platinum too (everybody???). Would explain why I've just been getting a 'you will not progress in this car' after each race this evening.

That's why I thought it may have been hacked

Of course at first I thought the server was just praising me for amazing driving. :throwrose

Quote from Becky Rose :

I understand that it is now fixed.

This URL is still popping up security prompt for me: http://stccu.ukct.net/

Quote from sgt.flippy :

I entered something in that box, I forgot what, so maybe it's nothing, but I changed my passwords to be sure

I wouldn't worry, I think someone's just turned the http security on to keep others out, whether that is the owner keeping a hacker out or vice versa remains to be seen!

Of course it might be neither, I shouldn't start rumours.

There's going to be alot of frustration if the licenses have been reset!

Quote from Victor :

merged the two threads.

My guess is someone made that domain private via http-login, but forgot it's a live url and used elsewhere.

Blimey Victor that was fast!

Does look like something untoward is going on at STCC as I suddenly went from noob to platinum as well.

I've just been upgraded from Copper to Platinum STCC license, and the site now has a security popup, someone been hacking about?

Quote from Cue-Ball :

Not realistic, huh?

Amazing Scenes!

Now imagine you masked most of the screen so that you were just left with a 19" monitor sized rectangle in front of the driver. You're left with what I want on my 19" monitor, essentially leaving you with a bonnet cam, rather than squeezing the whole projected image down to fit. Does that make any sense?

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Quote from otolikos :

hood view cause my desk is my cockpit

I agree!

It sounds like from what's being said that many people are using in-car with a very low field of vision which puts you at the top of the steering wheel near to hood view anyway, rather than showing a large amount of the cockpit, so the two are very similar.

Having said that though setting the low FOV means everything looks really close together and appears to move really slowly (or is it the other way round?)

Quote from nihil :

I also hate the fact that the cockpits reduce the useable space on my screen to about a third, filling up the rest of the space with useless, decorative graphics.

My feelings exactly, you have a steering wheel and a desk in front of you which are where the dashboard and interior would normally be, so why have another set of these "inside" the screen?

The counter-argument is that obviously in a real car you can't see the wheels and being able to see them allows you to place the car more easily than in real-life.

My favourite view is to use custom view, turn all the car interior/exterior rendering on and place the camera basically where the windscreen in front of the driver would be, so that the monitor screen becomes like the windscreen of the car (or the driver's side of it). Basically a kind of over-bonnet cam.

Quote from CSU1 :

Is strange I often look at racer lap/stats on forum and more often than not 'seasoned' drivers seem to have a mighty amount of laps done in the fxo

Were you around in the S1 days? I've just returned having not played since around the time S2 was released. In S1 most people would use the FXO most of the time, because it was so much quicker/more consistent than the other options. (I think rear-wheel drives were easier to keep on the road after S2). There were a few who insisted on sticking with the rear-wheel drive (myself included!) but these were a minority.

To be competitive in leagues you had to run the FXO, and everyone practiced in that car.