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nihil
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Quote from XCNuse :Yes but on the same topic, the dash in the car then doesn't have a steering wheel, nor hands attached to it.

So .. I win.

You aren't "in" the game, thus you aren't part of its physics, thus by having the wheel and arms in it, you are making it more realistic.

... /end random tangent/rant

Hugely funny thread... The 'realism' arguments in LFS reach a new low....
nihil
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Quote from tristancliffe :Surely that would only work if ....

Forgive me for being a dolt, but... if surface temperature is so meaningless, that means the only real data that is available is taken by a probe in the pitlane (inherently inaccurate too). And by extension, that means LFS' tyre model is a "best guestimate". So why not just use the "feel method" as there doesn't seem to be a more accurate method available?
nihil
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Quote from AndroidXP :The question is though, how do real race teams find out how much the inner/average tyre temperatures fluctuate?

Non-contact, infrared thermometers, mounted by or over the tyres are how the teams can measure this; three per tyre. I don't know how common it is, but I've heard about Le Mans teams using this kind of system.
nihil
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Quote from JTbo :You do realise sarcasm?

LOL... OK, but I'm quite attuned to sarcasm and I missed it too! I think its the "I like life rough and hard" stuff that blunts the sarcasm in that post...

Anyway, I'm all for sitting back and watching the credit bubble burst. Cars or houses? Just wait a little bit and then pick up some cheap repossession items...

Personally, I don't like to work more than three days a week, and I've managed that for a good number of years now. I don't own a house and I don't have a number of the trappings of a late capitalist lifestyle, but that also means I don't have any significant debt and I do have four or five days out of seven that are mine to use as I wish.

Stop working. The world will be a better place.
nihil
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Quote from JTbo :
One thing that annoys me as hell is that in modern world there is not enough time for kids to raise them well enough, could be on possible doom of modern world rising from there.

On that one we might agree! 'Work' is the enemy. I mean that quite seriously.

By work, I don't mean "getting stuff done", but the formalised, repetitive, moralistic nonsense that is more accurately (if colloquially) known as "wage slavery".

Quote from Racer Y :But I will say this: You screwed up by asking your cop "friends" about the IM threats. Never NEVER ...

....never advertise your intentions on a public forum. Racer Y, I couldn't agree more. But...

Quote :Have you thought about setting him up? l

Or just growing up? Come on, this is just an adolescent spat. In a few years time, you (bigmanwhatever), like Ian, will just want an easy life. Then you can go to work, be too tired to bitch with your friends, leave your off-spring sucking on the cathode tit, and everything will seem 'normal'.
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nihil
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Quote from JTbo :

For example when you raise kids, you have to be strong and say no to them, no matter what kind of noise and cry there will be. Without doing such things that may seem bad at the moment kids never learn to respect limits and laws for example.

Yeah, I think that being firm with your children isn't quite the same as beating seven shades of shite out them... But then I'm not a moralist.
nihil
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Quote from JTbo :
There are always few sensitive ones, sorry can't understand it, I like life rough and hard

So cash is the standard by which you measure things, and to be honest, in quite a few of your posts you display a form of moral disgust for weakness.

You are a moralist, so don't try and kid me.
nihil
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Quote from deggis :Umm... I have never researched this but how many of those are actual racing movies, not just something that there are few scenes with something race car related?

Precious few I imagine... I've seen Drag Strip Girl (which has Tommy Ivo in some of the scenes), but, yeah, whatever... B movie stuff... Le Mans is the stand out great race movie for me, because the circuit (or rather the event) is the real protagonist of the film.

Its been rather unfairly slated, IMO, because of the paper thin plot. View it as a very subjective documentary though and its quite entrancing. Beautifully filmed...
nihil
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Quote from JTbo :Doesn't that just show how nature's self healing mechanism is working, too many people on planet and species starts to kill own members to decrease population.


Nature? Nature?! We're not talking about nature here... We seem to be talking about children; the most unnatural, violent, and irrational examples of ethical vacuum that are allowed to walk the streets.
nihil
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Quote from deggis :Not that there would be plenty of them anyway... other than Le Mans and Grand Prix and couple of others.

On Any Sunday

But here's an interesting list.
nihil
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Quote from Hyperactive : I don't know hat kind of car nihil actually drives but I've heard people that have had to switch to new cars because the A-pillar was obstructing their vision

Driven all sorts, but that's not really the point. I didn't say that the A-pillar is not an obstructive piece of design, only that it interferes with your vision significantly if you can't be arsed to move your head

Sorry about the bold repetition, but I'm also speaking as a motorcyclist who has had regular need to remonstrate with 'cage' drivers...

Anyway, you agree with me: "There are few corners where I live where I really have to move my head a lot if I want to see what's behind the A-pillar."

You see, if you really want to, you can....
nihil
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Quote from BigDave2967 :which would give him a message of simply saying "Don't **** with me"

You are part of the problem here. He acts like an insecure teenager -> you all hate him and have demonstrated as much -> he responds with more anxiety induced aggression -> you react similarly...

No one on this forum, or anywhere else, can give you a ready made solution.
nihil
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Quote from sgt.flippy :When I take a left turn in my car, I can't see shit of what's coming. Because I look up to the A-pillar, there is nothing I can really do about it.

Are you really, really short? I don't wish to be so intrusive and personal, but I just can't visualise how you would have to look up to an A-pillar.

I have to say that in over twenty years of driving, in various cars and vans, I can't think of a single moment when an A-pillar has been irredeemably obstructive. A recent survey showed that a third of all 'targets' went unseen by drivers, because of the A-pillar. However, this figure was significantly reduced if the driver could be arsed to move his head.

There's a lesson there....
nihil
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Sorry for being a dullard... But before we all leap to shut it down, has anyone signed up? Does this site have anything worth leeching?
nihil
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Quote from BigPeBe :

And yep, films are made like that. It just makes racing films lame, I myself just get annoyed when sounds doesn't match. That's one reason why I tend to think that racing movies are stupid.

I know what you mean - I have some footage of the 65 F1 GP at Clermont-Ferrand where the overdubbed noise is irritatingly repetitive, but frankly I think you're being more than a little bit anal.

Climb Dance wasn't made in order to satisfy whatever analytical urge you have, but as an impressionistic portrait of a talented driver, in a very fast car, at a beautiful location. I think its very well edited within those parameters.
nihil
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Quote from MR_B :Oh now we're just being spoiled!
That is amazing footage, had Graham Hill and everything!!

Have a look at that user's other videos: gold dust
nihil
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Quote from Jakg :Love the way this thread has derailed!

Seems quite on topic to me, since iRental seems to aspire to all the opaque clarity of a mobile phone contract.
nihil
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Quote from tristancliffe :I have not said that speed itself is the danger. .....

Well you did, but whatever... Stuff written in haste etc... I agree with most of what you said though, especially about tiny cars! Why the hell does a Ford Mondeo have to weigh nearly one and a half tonnes?! Start making light, and consequently lower powered cars: less consumption, more fun.

Ultimately though, if we agree that speed is not the issue, I don't see the point of arguing about power figures. We agree that training is essential, but don't confuse it with testing. My instructor (all those years ago...) was quite clear: "I'll teach you to pass the test, and then you can start learning to drive."

Quote from Woz :
One young dead kid in an M5....

Probably says more about the doting nature of rich parents to be honest. Laws should not be framed around exceptions.
nihil
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Quote from MR_B :

I have to link this video here also, fantastic stuff!

Indeed it is, and its one that's been in my favourites on YouTube for while... Going back a bit further, this is a fascinating document: super8 footage of saloons racing at Oulton in 1967
Baby Bertha and Seventies Super Saloons
nihil
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Paddock footage of seventies automotive excess; Baby Bertha grunting like a pig on acid and being chased down by a mutant Skoda; the incomparable Gerry Marshall commentating an onboard lap of Oulton; and action set to a porntastic soundtrack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFTBgnCanJo

/ sighs
nihil
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Quote from tristancliffe : More power = faster, quicker = less safe for other people on the road.

Whilst I understand your concern, I have to say that this is precisely the same logic that has seen the proliferation of speed cameras, and the reduction of active traffic officers on the road.

It will also be the rationale for the introduction of GPS based speed limiters.

It is simply not true to say that quicker is inevitably unsafer. Power is not the issue; awareness is. Which is why I would argue for structured and recorded, life long training before any kind of technological 'fix' (and I include as a 'fix' utterly arbitrary power limits, whether bureaucratically or mechanically enforced)
nihil
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Quote from ajp71 :Car control will only ever become an issue on the road if your either driving a car with a problem or on appalling road conditions or possibly low speed control if you have avoid something.

Yeah, you seem to be stuck in a logical rut of your own making ... Car control is the simple matter of making a car move without kangarooing down the road or being a danger to yourself and others. Dealing with blow-outs is just the extreme end of the spectrum.

Situational awareness has to be learnt in traffic, so there has to be a first time. If you can go out into the world of buses, cyclists, and dozy pedestrians without simultaneously running the mantra "ABC -accelerator, brake, clutch" through your head, you have an advantage over the general standard of learners.

I don't see how that can be disputed.

And I still maintain that power is irrelevant. My very first time behind a wheel was in a Kadett GTE (not a monster by any means, but not an average family hatchback either) in city traffic. The above average power wasn't an issue at any time.
nihil
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Quote from BigPeBe :Sounds doesn't match to the film, sounds are clearly added afterwards.

Oh ok, thought you meant that the engine sound was fundamentally differenty, from another car or something....

Frankly, unless you're a signee to the dogme manifesto, that how films are made: sounds get added afterwards.
nihil
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Quote from PLAYLIFE :Whilst is OK to be pessimistic, it is just utterly ridiculous to proclaim that anything you haven't seen is vapour ware.

OK, maybe our definitions are different - I use the term to describe something announced as available, but which subsequently fails to appear... Not ridiculous in this instance, but perhaps a harsh verdict on my part, I admit.

Hey, shoot me, I'm a bitch. But come on, Mr Kaemmer, at least show us some pictures.... I'm a consumer, and consumers buy stuff, things, products. We don't pay through the nose for promises, and we don't like paying tithes.

The process of creating these tracks seems very labour intensive and in that respect is very different from his other titles. Its not unreasonable to ask if a) is it actually going to be so fundamentally different to anything else that it will be worth paying up front with so little information on which to base a judgement, and b) will there actually be enough people attracted to this venture to fund work on tracks that are yet to be completed
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